Glasner to Forest

It quite literally is 3 trophies…you can’t miss the Charity Sheild, it’s the largest of them all.

As Painter quite rightly said, one trophy might be attributed to luck but not 3!

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Like I said, no one will ever convince me that the Charity Shield is a major trophy and I really don’t care what others think. We were lucky end of. I’m pleased we were lucky, but we were.
 
Like I said, no one will ever convince me that the Charity Shield is a major trophy and I really don’t care what others think. We were lucky end of. I’m pleased we were lucky, but we were.
Given that Brighton would have a major trophy if we included it (they won it in 1910) then I am declaring the Charity/Community Shield non-major!
 
When listing FA Cup and Conference League winners, there is not a "Very fortunate" after their names !
In the FA Cup we defeated 3 PL teams.
In the Conference League we had to negotiate an arduous route to the final including play-offs and all-in all lifted the trophy after 17 matches travelling the length and breadth of Europe.
You seem to be like a politician, you cant give a yes or no answer, it is pretty easy, do you think Glasner is a good manager, Yes or No,
 
You seem to be like a politician, you cant give a yes or no answer, it is pretty easy, do you think Glasner is a good manager, Yes or No,
Define "good manager". He's had a level of success many others never achieve. Then again he has his faults, but what he did indisputably do was coalesce what was happening with the players and the club at that particular moment in time to bring home the silverware. I would have thought one aspect of being a "good manager" is the ability to do just that.
 
Maybe there needs to be a third category. A good enough manager.

Wouldn't get us relegated, won our only trophies, but had no Plan B.

Not sure we have ever had a manager that meets my own definition of good.

I put Glasner in with Pardew and Vieira. Just won a couple more critical games...
 
You seem to be like a politician, you cant give a yes or no answer, it is pretty easy, do you think Glasner is a good manager, Yes or No,
With respect you are sounding like Jeremy Paxman !
Like an interrogation out of the 'Ipcress Files' !
Perhaps given that I have spoken to a plethora of politicans over the years, and continue to do so,I have mastered the art of prevarication. 😍
Suffice to say we do not have asymmetric views regarding Oliver Glasner.
 
Define "good manager". He's had a level of success many others never achieve. Then again he has his faults, but what he did indisputably do was coalesce what was happening with the players and the club at that particular moment in time to bring home the silverware. I would have thought one aspect of being a "good manager" is the ability to do just that.
I agree with the general thrust of these sentiments.
In broad terms, even the most successful managers have had periods when their fortunes have not been in their favour.
 
I agree with the general thrust of these sentiments.
In broad terms, even the most successful managers have had periods when their fortunes have not been in their favour.
If we all work to different definitions of good it's no surprise we've not agreed on whether he's good or not. Probably why this debate won't get any further.
 
If we all work to different definitions of good it's no surprise we've not agreed on whether he's good or not. Probably why this debate won't get any further.
I for one applaud Oliver Glasner for the unprecedented success whilst he was at the helm.
I never ever envisaged our club lifting the FA Cup and a European trophy in my time on this earth.
"Vielen Dank" to Oliver and enjoy your birthday ! 😍
 
Like I said, no one will ever convince me that the Charity Shield is a major trophy and I really don’t care what others think. We were lucky end of. I’m pleased we were lucky, but we were.

We’ve now gone from trophy to ‘major’ trophy.

No, it’s not classed as a major trophy but it’s certainly a trophy, which was your original point.

The clue is in the title.
 
With respect you are sounding like Jeremy Paxman !
Like an interrogation out of the 'Ipcress Files' !
Perhaps given that I have spoken to a plethora of politicans over the years, and continue to do so,I have mastered the art of prevarication. 😍
Suffice to say we do not have asymmetric views regarding Oliver Glasner.
😍😛😍😊
 
Very few if any managers can get success with substandard players, unless the competion is of the same standard. That is lower than the Premier.
Glasner, was successful when handling Palaces best groups, not so when he had to use second choices. He still has to be considered good, as a bad manager would not have won anything with the same group.How good might be the question.?
 
The fact that Glasner left us and went to Forest (for the money) was obviously up to Glasner but he must’ve known what sort of a reaction that would get from us, in light of the animosity between both clubs.
He still went and I think that speaks volumes for the type of person he is
Well, I would have considered it more concerning if he had refrained from joining a specific club because some fans of his former club might be upset.
But rest assured Nottingham wasn’t his preferred destination at all and I think he did already regret that he had burnt the bridges with us that early.
 
You think so, i dont, i think Parish, Freedman and the Players had more to do with it, Glasner was extremely lucky to have the job at that time, we agree to disagree. 😊
With this same assortment of riches at his disposals ,a certain Mr.Hobson managed to put us on a relegation trajectory before he was relieved of his duties and OG,took up the challenge with unequalled success.
 
With this same assortment of riches at his disposals ,a certain Mr.Hobson managed to put us on a relegation trajectory before he was relieved of his duties and OG,took up the challenge with unequalled success.
Yes, the team was heading down under Hodgson. Glasner saw the potential and realised it. I wonder if Lanzo considers Hodgson to be a "good manager"?
 
So you think he will do well at forest then.

I don't know, some brilliant managers have struggled in some jobs before.

I don't think he is a manager that will stick around for long in any job.

if i had to put money on it i think forest will finish between 7-12th this season.
 

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