Liberal women

PalazioVecchio said:
i would summarise your sentiments thus.......

Women's carnal desires.....good, empowering, virtuous, she can chase male wealth or male beauty with equanimity, she can make or break any promise she wishes, and if she lived in Vichy Occupied France and chose an invader soldier ? who cares, you go girl.

Men's carnal desires........harassment, wrong, bad, patriarchy, nasty power-politics, keep your head down mate and know your place, and only loser men choose to import brides from the Third World while those women themselves are victims....etc etc...

Liberal Ideology. Charming isn't it ?
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Could you have chosen a worse example?
They were literally tortured, humiliated and vilified for life.
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Meanwhile, Men who had relationships with enemy women were tolerated or even celebrated.
 
According to AI

No, French men were generally not targeted or punished for having relations with German women. Post-liberation retribution focused almost exclusively on women. Society subjected an estimated 20,000 French women to violent public shaming, such as having their heads shaved, for "horizontal collaboration" with German soldiers. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The Gender Bias in Post-Liberation Retribution
    • Targeting Women: Public rage and the épuration sauvage (savage purge) directed blame for intimate or sexual ties with the enemy squarely at women. [1, 2]
    • Double Standard: Society viewed a woman's intimacy with an occupier as a symbolic violation of the French nation's body. Men who engaged with German women faced no equivalent social shaming or vigilante punishment. [1, 2, 3]
    • Official vs. Unofficial Justice: Mobs and local resistance groups carried out the head-shavings of women outside the bounds of formal law, a gendered vengeance that did not apply to male counterparts in similar fraternization contexts.
 
McAhuna said:
According to AI

No, French men were generally not targeted or punished for having relations with German women. Post-liberation retribution focused almost exclusively on women. Society subjected an estimated 20,000 French women to violent public shaming, such as having their heads shaved, for "horizontal collaboration" with German soldiers. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The Gender Bias in Post-Liberation Retribution
    • Targeting Women: Public rage and the épuration sauvage (savage purge) directed blame for intimate or sexual ties with the enemy squarely at women. [1, 2]
    • Double Standard: Society viewed a woman's intimacy with an occupier as a symbolic violation of the French nation's body. Men who engaged with German women faced no equivalent social shaming or vigilante punishment. [1, 2, 3]
    • Official vs. Unofficial Justice: Mobs and local resistance groups carried out the head-shavings of women outside the bounds of formal law, a gendered vengeance that did not apply to male counterparts in similar fraternization contexts.
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France was occupied by the German Army. Occupying Armies tend to be 100% men. Get with the programme McEinstein.

Male french collaborators* got shot after the War.

*giving Gerry some information, business, help, stuff, names & addresses of French Jews.

Female collaborators got their head shaved for allowing Gerry to see their unshaved parts.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
France was occupied by the German Army. Occupying Armies tend to be 100% men. Get with the programme McEinstein.

Male french collaborators* got shot after the War.

*giving Gerry some information, business, help, stuff, names & addresses of French Jews.

Female collaborators got their head shaved for allowing Gerry to see their unshaved parts.
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You absolute McDiv

German women were present in occupied France from 1940 to 1944. They served in various capacities as part of the German military administration, welfare organizations, and civilian support roles, including as secretaries, nurses, telecommunication operators, and auxiliary personnel

Roles of German Women in France
    • Military Auxiliaries: Thousands of young German women belonging to the Wehrmachthelferinnen were deployed to occupied territories to work in communications, postal services, and administrative offices.
    • Welfare and Ideology: Organizations like the National Socialist Women's League (NS-Frauenschaft) and the Red Cross sent female workers to manage canteens, rest centers, and social programs for German troops.
    • Civilian Workers: Some German women lived in France as wives, civilian administrators, or cultural workers attached to the occupation authorities.
 
McAhuna said:
You absolute McDiv

German women were present in occupied France from 1940 to 1944. They served in various capacities as part of the German military administration, welfare organizations, and civilian support roles, including as secretaries, nurses, telecommunication operators, and auxiliary personnel

Roles of German Women in France
    • Military Auxiliaries: Thousands of young German women belonging to the Wehrmachthelferinnen were deployed to occupied territories to work in communications, postal services, and administrative offices.
    • Welfare and Ideology: Organizations like the National Socialist Women's League (NS-Frauenschaft) and the Red Cross sent female workers to manage canteens, rest centers, and social programs for German troops.
    • Civilian Workers: Some German women lived in France as wives, civilian administrators, or cultural workers attached to the occupation authorities.
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Come on, you know what he meant.
 
I do wish you chaps got on better....or at least tried a bit.

All this I disagree on 10 percent or 20 percent with you so we have to treat each other like enemies just isn't worth it.

I disagree with Spindle on Brexit, Ukraine but so what....I still listen and understand his arguments. We don't all have to agree, I'm not his dad and he isn't mine.

We know who our real enemies are.

There are people out there who would laugh if your life were ruined.
 
Stirlingsays said:
I do wish you chaps got on better....or at least tried a bit.

All this I disagree on 10 percent or 20 percent with you so we have to treat each other like enemies just isn't worth it.

I disagree with Spindle on Brexit, Ukraine but so what....I still listen and understand his arguments. We don't all have to agree, I'm not his dad and he isn't mine.

We know who our real enemies are.

There are people out there who would laugh if your life were ruined.
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The reality is we’d probably all get on up the pub together before a game.
 
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