Palace Fans Against Racism

eastern boy said:
I'm not wriggling out of anything. Many answers would appear to be deflecting away from the subject, rather than attempting to agree some common ground, including your current posting.

I've just attempted to narrow down the discussion.

As I said I have my opinions as to why someone would bring a stop the boats flag to a game or stick labels around the place, unless you think it's simply decor?
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Do you say the same as to why someone would bring Palastinian flags to a game or stick labels around the place, unless, of course, it's simply decor?
 
Part Time James said:
This is the crux of it. Not only has he willfully ignored what everybody is saying, created a strawman arguement with people that don't exist on this thread and shut the door on finding any common ground, he's accused everybody else of this! I was sympathetic to his cause to begin with and also wished him well on his journey. Now I do not. He's dangerously dishonest and may well do more harm than good. I hope what his cause stands for is successful, but I don't believe he will have any positive impact on that cause. Sorry.
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You try your best to be decent and they through it back in your face.

Don't change that attitude though. It's nice to wish people well. Not necessarily with his campaigning, but with life.
 
eastern boy said:
I'm not wriggling out of anything. Many answers would appear to be deflecting away from the subject, rather than attempting to agree some common ground, including your current posting.

I've just attempted to narrow down the discussion.

As I said I have my opinions as to why someone would bring a stop the boats flag to a game or stick labels around the place, unless you think it's simply decor?
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Exactly, they're just your opinions.
You've come on here to try to get some support for your little pressure group and its backfired. It's about time virtue signallers and the permanently offended are called out and told some home truths. Didn't expect it did you ?
 
DanH said:
So funny how much the HF rattle you.
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Dan, you really need to get out more. Your need to bang on about racism is getting really boring.

You really think that 'racism' is the big problem in Britain? Get your head out of your arse for gawd's sake.
 
eastern boy said:
Interesting answers to my OP.

I have posted the group on a range of socials with mixed responses. I was fully aware of how this may go down on this particular forum but didn't want to exclude you all from having your piece.

The group is in it's early days but has a reasonable following to date. Whether they are left or right I don't know, or care, but they've witnessed some of the issues and chucking crap at me isn't going to make us go away.

I'm not after a witch hunt but I do feel there is an issue to be discussed. You can argue about the flags, the stickers, freedom of speech etc til the cows come home. I would argue that the message behind them are clear.

If someone wants to debate that the following isn't racist please, or deemed not worthy of digging out, go ahead
1. Boom Boom Boom Boom, Mateta is a C*** (repeated in several different locations including at home)
2. Calling a kid a pak* for no reason.
3. Being ejected out of Selhurst for calling a player on the pitch a black bast***
4. Nazi saluting.

Some of us are old enough to remember the NF infiltrating London clubs in the late 70s/80s. With politics as devisive as they are currently, there is a chance it could well happen again here.
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Are you sure that the abuse of Mateta wasn’t about his seeming disloyalty for going public about wanting a transfer? Or do you automatically think that as he’s black it must be a race issue?
 
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