West ham meltdown

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Have to disagree. My view is that it was a clear foul on rayer by two players. And you can even see a hand holding the goalies arm down.

These decisions are inconsistent and always favour the bigger clubs, Arsenal have been getting away with these all season.

 

[steeleye20]

'The other thing is Gabriel is holding, Odegaard is holding, Trossard is holding before the foul even happens on Raya. When does the referee decide that's the foul he wants to pick and not the previous foul?'.

Do agree, much consternation about the laws this morning.........

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[ASCPFC]

These decisions are inconsistent and always favour the bigger clubs, Arsenal have been getting away with these all season.

Exactly. The game is fully corrupt - right in front of everyone's faces. I have said since the very beginning that PGMOL are the problem. It should be disbanded and banned. The FA should step in with UEFA and get rid. We need back to FA referees - they didn't seem particularly much fairer, however, I can't shake the feeling that the PGMOL refs are under instruction to cause "entertainment". Which is not the refs job.

 

[Willo]

'The other thing is Gabriel is holding, Odegaard is holding, Trossard is holding before the foul even happens on Raya. When does the referee decide that's the foul he wants to pick and not the previous foul?'.

Do agree, much consternation about the laws this morning.........

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Explanation provided on 'RefWatch'

DERMOT GALLAGHER : If you look at it, Pablo puts his arm across Raya, he holds him, there is no doubt about that. Behind that, Declan Rice is engaged with Mavropanos, is that a penalty?

"Well, if you look at it in that order, definitely Pablo goes first, his arm is across Raya and at that point, Rice is reaching, he does get hold of him, there is no doubt about that. And if there is not a foul on the goalkeeper, that is definitely a penalty as Mavropanos is running towards the ball.

"But the first foul is definitely by Pablo."

JAY BOTHROYD: "I completely agree and it is because of the magnitude of the game that it has taken so long. but they came to the right decision because Pablo's arm is across Raya's neck, Todibo is pulling on Raya's shirt, so that is why it has to be given as a foul.

"If the magnitude of the game was not as it was, we would not even be having a debate about this." And he has looked, looked again and decided that had happened, that has gone first, that has come second and that has come third. Foul."

 

[ASCPFC]

Explanation provided on 'RefWatch'

DERMOT GALLAGHER : If you look at it, Pablo puts his arm across Raya, he holds him, there is no doubt about that. Behind that, Declan Rice is engaged with Mavropanos, is that a penalty?

"Well, if you look at it in that order, definitely Pablo goes first, his arm is across Raya and at that point, Rice is reaching, he does get hold of him, there is no doubt about that. And if there is not a foul on the goalkeeper, that is definitely a penalty as Mavropanos is running towards the ball.

"But the first foul is definitely by Pablo."

JAY BOTHROYD: "I completely agree and it is because of the magnitude of the game that it has taken so long. but they came to the right decision because Pablo's arm is across Raya's neck, Todibo is pulling on Raya's shirt, so that is why it has to be given as a foul.

"If the magnitude of the game was not as it was, we would not even be having a debate about this." And he has looked, looked again and decided that had happened, that has gone first, that has come second and that has come third. Foul."

Look up the meaning of gaslighting. That's what ref watch is.
Perhaps we should review every Arsenal set piece goal for a fair comparison?

 

[Willo]

Look up the meaning of gaslighting. That's what ref watch is.
Perhaps we should review every Arsenal set piece goal for a fair comparison?

I do not need to refer to any information to understand the meaning of "Gaslighting".
We will have to agree to disagree with the substance of these comments.
Perhaps in the interests of HOL I should refrain from opining on certain contributions in this discussion as it could evolve into a dastardly 'Willo Thread'.