Glasner Out

[Paul Salvage]

Simply put - Glasner is NOT going to stay. He has honoured (Just about) his 2.5 year contract, and is ready for his next challenge - whether in this country or somewhere else in Europe.

Parish has been through hell, but in my humble opinion has done the right thing by sticking with OG until at the end of the season. I was all for getting rid of the manager - but must admit, I WAS WRONG!

I was at the Spurs game. It was like turning back the clock a few months. Great atmosphere, singing, a huge buzz. At the end, all the players came over and celebrated with us.

It’s almost like everyone has accepted where we are, know what’s coming - so let’s just get on with it.

I think this is very pertinent. The issues first arose when no one knew what he was doing in terms of a new contract or moving on. It then came out he was going (I’m sure the players already knew!) and we had a serious dip in form, he slagged everything and everyone off to try and get the sack which didn’t work and now we are where we are as you say.

The players, fans and OG have accepted that he is staying until the end of the season and it seems everyone is now back on board.
With regard to you being WRONG, I don’t think you were. I along with most of the posters on here wanted him gone for the way he behaved, and any other chairman would have granted him his wish. However SP didn’t give in to his tantrums and now we all know he is staying (end of season) we can all get behind the TEAM and hopefully have a good end to the season.
It doesn’t mean that I or others will be chanting his name or singing his song, even if we do win the Conference.

 

[TheBigToePunt]

Like many, I felt Glasner committed a sacking offence after the Sunderland game, possibly one amounting to gross misconduct, but had faith in Parish to do what he felt was best for Palace.

I made the point at the time that changing management isn't guaranteed to result in a short term boost, and may even accelerate a sense of crisis if it doesn't work out. I feel clubs like West Ham and Spurs make 'crowd pleasing' sackings when faced with supporter dissatisfaction and, as such, are particularly prone to those risks.

Looking at the poisonous environment at Spurs on Thursday reminded me once again just what an advantage our relative stability provides. Very little juicy gossip leaks out at Palace. Things tend to stay in house. The media spotlight generally moves on pretty quickly to grumbling supporters at other clubs, who seek attention even more than the slightly self-important element of the HF, who purport to represent wider fan opinion but rarely do when their banners become specifically targeted.

This is all good. The lack of fanfare at Palace has been a huge part of us not only staying in the league all these years, but also almost never being in a serious relegation scrap.

Looking back at it, the right decision was taken. It was perhaps as close as we have come to genuine implosion, but once again the club has reaped the benefits of remaining calm as others flailed around. Glasner himself is not really the central part of the story.

 

[doombear]

Like many, I felt Glasner committed a sacking offence after the Sunderland game, possibly one amounting to gross misconduct, but had faith in Parish to do what he felt was best for Palace.

I made the point at the time that changing management isn't guaranteed to result in a short term boost, and may even accelerate a sense of crisis if it doesn't work out. I feel clubs like West Ham and Spurs make 'crowd pleasing' sackings when faced with supporter dissatisfaction and, as such, are particularly prone to those risks.

Looking at the poisonous environment at Spurs on Thursday reminded me once again just what an advantage our relative stability provides. Very little juicy gossip leaks out at Palace. Things tend to stay in house. The media spotlight generally moves on pretty quickly to grumbling supporters at other clubs, who seek attention even more than the slightly self-important element of the HF, who purport to represent wider fan opinion but rarely do when their banners become specifically targeted.

This is all good. The lack of fanfare at Palace has been a huge part of us not only staying in the league all these years, but also almost never being in a serious relegation scrap.

Looking back at it, the right decision was taken. It was perhaps as close as we have come to genuine implosion, but once again the club has reaped the benefits of remaining calm as others flailed around. Glasner himself is not really the central part of the story.

And it seems he's now got down to doing what he's good at - setting the team up to get a result. He seems happier now that the new players are beginning to gel. It's as if he's beginning to believe we can finish the season on a high. Let's hope we both can and do.

 

[Davepalace707]

Like many, I felt Glasner committed a sacking offence after the Sunderland game, possibly one amounting to gross misconduct, but had faith in Parish to do what he felt was best for Palace.

I made the point at the time that changing management isn't guaranteed to result in a short term boost, and may even accelerate a sense of crisis if it doesn't work out. I feel clubs like West Ham and Spurs make 'crowd pleasing' sackings when faced with supporter dissatisfaction and, as such, are particularly prone to those risks.

Looking at the poisonous environment at Spurs on Thursday reminded me once again just what an advantage our relative stability provides. Very little juicy gossip leaks out at Palace. Things tend to stay in house. The media spotlight generally moves on pretty quickly to grumbling supporters at other clubs, who seek attention even more than the slightly self-important element of the HF, who purport to represent wider fan opinion but rarely do when their banners become specifically targeted.

This is all good. The lack of fanfare at Palace has been a huge part of us not only staying in the league all these years, but also almost never being in a serious relegation scrap.

Looking back at it, the right decision was taken. It was perhaps as close as we have come to genuine implosion, but once again the club has reaped the benefits of remaining calm as others flailed around. Glasner himself is not really the central part of the story.

It didn’t feel to me like things stayed in house, Glasners rantings were as public as you could get and were the main news stories on most football sites. Parish kept his cards close to his chest but so do most chairmen.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

We got what we won by the squad we had, we won th cup and charity shield, in spite of Glasner not because of him, which imo has been proved by our current form

 

[Painter]

We got what we won by the squad we had, we won th cup and charity shield, in spite of Glasner not because of him, which imo has been proved by our current form

Have you considered the fact that Glasner is the only manager that Palace have employed in over 25 years that have actually won any trophies before, the last being Venables. Its a bit of a coincidence that we won our first major trophy with him in charge!

 

[TheBigToePunt]

It didn’t feel to me like things stayed in house, Glasners rantings were as public as you could get and were the main news stories on most football sites. Parish kept his cards close to his chest but so do most chairmen.

Glasner went public, of course. I was talking about the club and, as Glasner both stressed and ensured with his outbursts, those are two separate things!

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Have you considered the fact that Glasner is the only manager that Palace have employed in over 25 years that have actually won any trophies before, the last being Venables. Its a bit of a coincidence that we won our first major trophy with him in charge!

Have you considered the fact that Glasner is the only manager that Palace have had with a squad like that in their entire history.

 

[Painter]

Have you considered the fact that Glasner is the only manager that Palace have had with a squad like that in their entire history.

Yes and the 1990-91 team was a better squad in relation to the period they played in.

 

[Team of the (20)80s]

I wanted him sacked based upon everything we could see from the outside. I was worried that we were plummeting, his influence appeared toxic and his inflexibility was a problem.

Parish will know and see things that we don’t, he was talking to Glasner, hopefully the senior players and may know what options we would have now and in the Summer for a replacement too. I trust his judgement.

I don’t love Glasner as a person but he is a successful coach and he no longer appears to be directly damaging our chance of a decent finish and in the CL. I’m fine with him staying, as long as he gets the results.

 

[TheBigToePunt]

Have you considered the fact that Glasner is the only manager that Palace have had with a squad like that in their entire history.

Have you considered that a good few other clubs, including some we beat en route to lifting the cup, had much better squads than us?

 

[Eaglecoops]

Yes and the 1990-91 team was a better squad in relation to the period they played in.

We did finish 3rd in the league though (our highest ever finish), some would argue a better achievement than a cup win.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Yes and the 1990-91 team was a better squad in relation to the period they played in.

yes, the won that lost in the FA cup final replay then finished 3rd in the top league, not 12th

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Have you considered that a good few other clubs, including some we beat en route to lifting the cup, had much better squads than us?

No

 

[Midlands Eagle]

Isn't it about time that we put this topic to bed as we are just going round and round in circles

 

[Linford]

But he’s the one who wants to leave and the eternal financial quandary that small/medium size clubs like ours face means valuable players have to be sold to keep the club viable.

The only place he’s going to find virtually unlimited resources and therefore perhaps keep him happy are clubs like United, Bayern, Madrid and Barca and I can’t see any of them taking him on and totally changing their teams to suit his tactics.

As with a lot of managers he strikes me as being an 18 months of success manager followed by a struggle, a falling out and moving on.

I don’t think he was ever going to stay beyond his contract no matter the circumstances.

Our typical move is to sell before we buy. We currently have a glut of players in one area, who are very good players but haven’t fitted the profile we are screaming out for, and one especially expensive player in that position that hasn’t impressed so far, even though I thought he would.

It seems that an Olise and Eze type player would completely unlock this team again.

If we were somehow able to convince Oli to carry on past the summer, we should in that scenario look to offload Johnson for as many österreichischer schillings as possible, as well as Esse, Nketiah, and probably Pino as much as we love him.

We then use the money from those four sales to bring in an Olise and an Eze. Creative players. They won’t be at the level those players are at now, but the hope is we could identify two in our price range who would be somewhere between the level Michael and Ebere joined us at and the level they left us at.

That’s probably the only moves we would need to make in the Summer if Oli did stay. Chadi and Jaydee have for the most part stepped up into the hole left behind by Guéhi now, with Jefferson able to fill in that role perfectly well when called upon also. I’m sure Chadi and Jaydee will only continue to improve with time and good games under their belts.

It would also mean Uche returns to Madrid without any new deal. Again, a well loved player for good reason, he gives 110% every game and his heart is really in it, and maybe for another coach we could make it work with him, but it would not be the end of the world, for him or us.

 

[Linford]

The only place he’s going to find virtually unlimited resources and therefore perhaps keep him happy are clubs like United, Bayern, Madrid and Barca and I can’t see any of them taking him on and totally changing their teams to suit his tactics.

Bayern were very keen to do exactly that, and were willing to give us a record payoff for him, up until they struck gold with Kompany. Now of course they wouldn’t make the change unless someone poaches Kompany off their hands, only likely Man City or the Saudi clubs could do that.

Real Madrid could quite well go all in on Glasnerball. They’re looking for their next big shiny new thing to be obsessed with for a short time until they get bored again, they’re definitely in the market for a new manager, they have the spending power to produce the highest version possible of his blueprint and see once and for all just how effective it truly is, and they’ve been stung just enough recently to lower their sights away from more established platinum tier managers like your Ancelottis, Guardiolas, Enriques, and Klopps.

Actually a Saudi club might appeal to Oli and vis-a-versa. They’d give him a lot of money to spend and freedom to implement his vision, and there wouldn’t be anything near the same kind of spotlight on him from the media as there is in England, Germany, or a lot of European leagues. Maybe Dougie would fancy bringing him in at Diriyah Club 👀

 

[Eaglecoops]

Bayern were very keen to do exactly that, and were willing to give us a record payoff for him, up until they struck gold with Kompany. Now of course they wouldn’t make the change unless someone poaches Kompany off their hands, only likely Man City or the Saudi clubs could do that.

Real Madrid could quite well go all in on Glasnerball. They’re looking for their next big shiny new thing to be obsessed with for a short time until they get bored again, they’re definitely in the market for a new manager, they have the spending power to produce the highest version possible of his blueprint and see once and for all just how effective it truly is, and they’ve been stung just enough recently to lower their sights away from more established platinum tier managers like your Ancelottis, Guardiolas, Enriques, and Klopps.

Actually a Saudi club might appeal to Oli and vis-a-versa. They’d give him a lot of money to spend and freedom to implement his vision, and there wouldn’t be anything near the same kind of spotlight on him from the media as there is in England, Germany, or a lot of European leagues. Maybe Dougie would fancy bringing him in at Diriyah Club 👀

Ifs, buts, maybes. I don’t think he’ll end up at a top club.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Ifs, buts, maybes. I don’t think he’ll end up at a top club.

Tottenham it is then. That's depressing.

 

[Badger11]

Still think he will end up at Red Bull