US Politics

[Stirlingsays]

‘Fresher girl raised on tofu’!! Wow, so mature. Are you both at the same school? Are you being bullied by the same boys? It can be tough at your age but I’m sure there must be a teacher you can both talk to. Maybe ask your parents to put some sort
of parental control on your phones or get an adult to check what you’re writing. All this keyboard anger, abuse towards other posters and name calling won’t help you when you grow up.

Bit of bullying and this berk thinks you need to talk to a teacher.

If you can't cope with your ideas being rinsed snowflake then get better ideas.

We are going to call a spade a spade, though in your case it may be a different tool.

 

[A22 Eagle]

Lol you talk of maturity.

"Oh Trump Trump, why not attack PKR, hmmm".

Pussies like you are allowed to post garbage like you have because the people you despise from your condescending yet ignorant position of relative luxury protect you.

Let's see how "mature" your understanding really is then. Why haven't China done anything about this attack? They are not allies, they are powerful right? Where are they?

‘Pussies’!! It’s like trying to to have a sensible debate with a bunch of delinquent children.

 

[Stirlingsays]

‘Pussies’!! It’s like trying to to have a sensible debate with a bunch of delinquent children.

All these pearl clutching soy boys coming onto the site, whining about speech they don't like.

If you don't like it bugger off, your type ruin every site. You have loads you can bore people to sleep on.....that or put people on ignore.

Bland tarts....Want everything to taste the same.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

You have made clear your view on religion (I am an atheist and applaud that) but you make reference to this country being Christian based.

Which is it?

Traffic??

Not really a contradiction. Britain is a Christian country. Cultural Christianity is not about worship or belief. It's the leftover echo of our Christian heritage within our secular society.
I celebrate Christmas and Easter, but I don't believe in God.

Traffic? Too many cars of course. Rapidly increasing population has put a strain on just about everything.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Wish it was but as Trump and Hegseth said after their last bombing of Iran that their nuclear programme was destroyed, why are they bombing again? Now apparently it’s about ‘regime change’ but North Korea still carry on without US intervention. He is distracting from the Epstein files and attempting to find a reason to cancel the midterms. The man is a narcissistic sociopath who is going to cause worldwide conflict.

And as for stupid comment of the day, honestly you win that hands down pretty much every day.

So you had your bit of tit for tat. Well done.

The difference between North Korea and Iran is that the Iran government is based on religious ideology.
Most leaderships are about politics. The Islamists want to bring about the end of days, at least, for the West. They want to replace our way of life with a caliphate. They are a danger to everyone including moderate Muslims, promoting terrorism globally and spreading dangerous dogma.

Oh yeah, and North Korea have nukes. The risk reward ratio would be a little different. They would still get obliterated, but they could cause some serious damage before they are.

I doubt Trump is too concerned for himself as regards Epstein and it is laughable for someone of your persuasion to moralise about Trump's motives.

 

[Spindle]

‘Pussies’!! It’s like trying to to have a sensible debate with a bunch of delinquent children.

Since when did you try and have a sensible debate then? You're an hysterical beta chump.

 

[Spindle]

So you had your bit of tit for tat. Well done.

The difference between North Korea and Iran is that the Iran government is based on religious ideology.
Most leaderships are about politics. The Islamists want to bring about the end of days, at least, for the West. They want to replace our way of life with a caliphate. They are a danger to everyone including moderate Muslims, promoting terrorism globally and spreading dangerous dogma.

Oh yeah, and North Korea have nukes. The risk reward ratio would be a little different. They would still get obliterated, but they could cause some serious damage before they are.

I doubt Trump is too concerned for himself as regards Epstein and it is laughable for someone of your persuasion to moralise about Trump's motives.

Plus PRK don't even need nukes anyway. Soeul is within artillery range of the NK border and Kim would simply rain chemical shells into the city immediately, so attack is a waste of time and there is nothing to gain because it's China that control Kim, not the west. A22 wouldn't understand this.

 

[A22 Eagle]

So just so I’m clear this is a discussion forum about political views in respect of the US politics and policies. However if some people don’t agree with your opinions you resort to calling them
‘Twiggy’
‘Green Fan boy/girl’
‘Weedy Traitor’
‘Pussies’
‘Pearl clutching soy boys’
‘Bland tarts’
‘Hysterical beta chump’
And you say I am ruining the forum. And you want anyone to take your views seriously. Ok then.

 

[Stirlingsays]

So just so I’m clear this is a discussion forum about political views in respect of the US politics and policies. However if some people don’t agree with your opinions you resort to calling them
‘Twiggy’
‘Green Fan boy/girl’
‘Weedy Traitor’
‘Pussies’
‘Pearl clutching soy boys’
‘Bland tarts’
‘Hysterical beta chump’
And you say I am ruining the forum. And you want anyone to take your views seriously. Ok then.

Not because, 'some people don’t agree with your opinions'.
It's not about having left wing opinions.
Dan came on here to troll and thus received the appropriate response.

You don't know the forum and obviously don't like it.

If you don't like how soy boys are regarded here, go where they are embraced like long lost lovers.

 

[Stirlingsays]

To me there is a fundamental flaw in starting this war.....which is essentially about regime change for Israel/US.

That flaw is that you can't change a regime by Navel and Air power. As someone pointed out the US can spend tens of millions destroying buildings and troop concentrations where they are foolish enough to gather, but ultimately at the end of all this bombing you are still going to have 150, 000 armed Iranian revolutionary guard most of whom will have known or know of someone killed during this.

I'm not seeing how the population is going to 'rise up' against that. Some might argue that the time to support an uprising was weeks ago, but instead the Iranian state killed an estimated thirty thousand while the Americans made positive noises.....You might find the population reluctant to come out again in the necessary numbers.

So from my view, I'm not seeing this war as a productive step forward. I know they want to create another Syria or Libya and have a weak distracted failed state instead of the Mullahs, but I'm not so sure that happens in Iran......I think a war emboldens them in terms of friend/enemy against the west. So while weakened I'm not seeing this producing a friendly state.....It's a lot of squeeze for not a lot of juice.

You would have to ensure regime change to a pro western movement and I think that's very unrealistic in Iran now because that would require many many troops on the ground.

I guess I hope I'm wrong but that's how I see it.

 

[Spindle]

So just so I’m clear this is a discussion forum about political views in respect of the US politics and policies. However if some people don’t agree with your opinions you resort to calling them
‘Twiggy’
‘Green Fan boy/girl’
‘Weedy Traitor’
‘Pussies’
‘Pearl clutching soy boys’
‘Bland tarts’
‘Hysterical beta chump’
And you say I am ruining the forum. And you want anyone to take your views seriously. Ok then.

f*** off to the BBS. You aren't here to debate a thing.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

You take things literally when it suits!

I take things literally when they are believed literally!

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Bit of bullying and this berk thinks you need to talk to a teacher.

If you can't cope with your ideas being rinsed snowflake then get better ideas.

We are going to call a spade a spade, though in your case it may be a different tool.

Have the mirrors in your house stopped working?

You lot simply cannot cope whenever someone new wanders into these threads, encounters attitudes that are regarded with distain and pity elsewhere and decides to point that out.

Gang bullying is the only response. Never reasoned argument. Try to find some humility for a change and maybe just an ounce of respect for those who disagree with your extremism.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

To me there is a fundamental flaw in starting this war.....which is essentially about regime change for Israel/US.

That flaw is that you can't change a regime by Navel and Air power. As someone pointed out the US can spend tens of millions destroying buildings and troop concentrations where they are foolish enough to gather, but ultimately at the end of all this bombing you are still going to have 150, 000 armed Iranian revolutionary guard most of whom will have known or know of someone killed during this.

I'm not seeing how the population is going to 'rise up' against that. Some might argue that the time to support an uprising was weeks ago, but instead the Iranian state killed an estimated thirty thousand while the Americans made positive noises.....You might find the population reluctant to come out again in the necessary numbers.

So from my view, I'm not seeing this war as a productive step forward. I know they want to create another Syria or Libya and have a weak distracted failed state instead of the Mullahs, but I'm not so sure that happens in Iran......I think a war emboldens them in terms of friend/enemy against the west. So while weakened I'm not seeing this producing a friendly state.....It's a lot of squeeze for not a lot of juice.

You would have to ensure regime change to a pro western movement and I think that's very unrealistic in Iran now because that would require many many troops on the ground.

I guess I hope I'm wrong but that's how I see it.

It’s typical of Trump, and Netanyahu, I am afraid. For me this is as much about trying to divert attention away from his domestic problems as was the attack on Venezuela. A spectacular demonstration of the efficiency and power of the American military without any plan at all over an actual outcome. The rumours that the Chief of Staff opposed it seem likely to be true.

The same for Netanyahu. He faces elections. A dead Khomeini looks good.

This is theatre. Not thought out long term political strategy. It’s sensing a current weakness in the 5th round of 15, taking a swing and achieving a knock down but not a knockout.

How will it be seen in the USA? That will be interesting to observe.

 

[cryrst]

It’s typical of Trump, and Netanyahu, I am afraid. For me this is as much about trying to divert attention away from his domestic problems as was the attack on Venezuela. A spectacular demonstration of the efficiency and power of the American military without any plan at all over an actual outcome. The rumours that the Chief of Staff opposed it seem likely to be true.

The same for Netanyahu. He faces elections. A dead Khomeini looks good.

This is theatre. Not thought out long term political strategy. It’s sensing a current weakness in the 5th round of 15, taking a swing and achieving a knock down but not a knockout.

How will it be seen in the USA? That will be interesting to observe.

Not many military events have a long term plan or strategy. Well they may have but put people in the mix and unknowns happen. I think doing this to swerve domestic issues is a bit far fetched. Venezuela may have been at a stretch tbh but not something this big.

 

[A22 Eagle]

To me there is a fundamental flaw in starting this war.....which is essentially about regime change for Israel/US.

That flaw is that you can't change a regime by Navel and Air power. As someone pointed out the US can spend tens of millions destroying buildings and troop concentrations where they are foolish enough to gather, but ultimately at the end of all this bombing you are still going to have 150, 000 armed Iranian revolutionary guard most of whom will have known or know of someone killed during this.

I'm not seeing how the population is going to 'rise up' against that. Some might argue that the time to support an uprising was weeks ago, but instead the Iranian state killed an estimated thirty thousand while the Americans made positive noises.....You might find the population reluctant to come out again in the necessary numbers.

So from my view, I'm not seeing this war as a productive step forward. I know they want to create another Syria or Libya and have a weak distracted failed state instead of the Mullahs, but I'm not so sure that happens in Iran......I think a war emboldens them in terms of friend/enemy against the west. So while weakened I'm not seeing this producing a friendly state.....It's a lot of squeeze for not a lot of juice.

You would have to ensure regime change to a pro western movement and I think that's very unrealistic in Iran now because that would require many many troops on the ground.

I guess I hope I'm wrong but that's how I see it.

Good post. And to add to that it will embolden other countries to take military action against the likes of Taiwan, Baltics, South Korea for example. I note that Russia and China have asked for an emergency UN meeting where they will ask for a vote condemning US action. It will be interesting to see how countries vote ( including some European countries). The World has just become more divided and very much more dangerous. I doubt Trump has a back up plan and an off ramp without boots on the ground seems unlikely. Trumps eternal war has begun.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

To me there is a fundamental flaw in starting this war.....which is essentially about regime change for Israel/US.

That flaw is that you can't change a regime by Navel and Air power. As someone pointed out the US can spend tens of millions destroying buildings and troop concentrations where they are foolish enough to gather, but ultimately at the end of all this bombing you are still going to have 150, 000 armed Iranian revolutionary guard most of whom will have known or know of someone killed during this.

I'm not seeing how the population is going to 'rise up' against that. Some might argue that the time to support an uprising was weeks ago, but instead the Iranian state killed an estimated thirty thousand while the Americans made positive noises.....You might find the population reluctant to come out again in the necessary numbers.

So from my view, I'm not seeing this war as a productive step forward. I know they want to create another Syria or Libya and have a weak distracted failed state instead of the Mullahs, but I'm not so sure that happens in Iran......I think a war emboldens them in terms of friend/enemy against the west. So while weakened I'm not seeing this producing a friendly state.....It's a lot of squeeze for not a lot of juice.

You would have to ensure regime change to a pro western movement and I think that's very unrealistic in Iran now because that would require many many troops on the ground.

I guess I hope I'm wrong but that's how I see it.

There would certainly have to be some sort of landing. How many troops, how many casualties and for how long? Trump can't afford anything but a quick victory with minimum loss of American lives.

 

[Common Sense Club]

There would certainly have to be some sort of landing. How many troops, how many casualties and for how long? Trump can't afford anything but a quick victory with minimum loss of American lives.

Trump will back away and get Starmer to lead a ‘coalition of the willing’…

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

So just so I’m clear this is a discussion forum about political views in respect of the US politics and policies. However if some people don’t agree with your opinions you resort to calling them
‘Twiggy’
‘Green Fan boy/girl’
‘Weedy Traitor’
‘Pussies’
‘Pearl clutching soy boys’
‘Bland tarts’
‘Hysterical beta chump’
And you say I am ruining the forum. And you want anyone to take your views seriously. Ok then.

I guess you wanted to fly too close to the Sun.

I'm afraid that you get what you give. The leftist side of Palace support have a rabid element that attack and ultimately ban dissenters. They largely occupy the other site, as I'm sure you are aware, so if you come on here you will get some stick. However, you won't be banned for having an opinion. That is the difference.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Trump will back away and get Starmer to lead a ‘coalition of the willing’…

Starmer is a dead duck. I don't think he was invited to this party. That is why he is taking this non committal stance.