US Politics

[Wisbech Eagle]

So your argument isn't with deporting people but with who's doing it and under whose administration.
Are ICE currently deporting desirable illegal immigrants l?

My observations, not arguments, are that those protesting are much more concerned about the methods and the scope than they are about the stated aim, of finding and deporting lllegal immigrants who have criminal records or intent.

There is a real concern that ICE has been expanded and turned into a para military federal force whose role will be expanded well beyond that of the expulsion of criminal aliens. There is already evidence that is happening.

 

[Houston Eagle]

No, but the number has more than doubled, the training regime shortened, the objectives changed and the senior management changed. Some of the previous leadership were fired. Less supervision, high targets, wearing masks and para military uniforms and carrying military grade weapons has changed what was originally just a border protection force into a militia.

How it is used going forward remains to be seen but done rule out voter suppression in the mid terms. Trump is terrified at the prospect of losing the House at the mid terms.

Without having to state the obvious, the doubling of ICE agents is purely down to that fact there is no cooperation and universal resistance in inner cities (democrat governed).

As people have stated it is just the "wrong guy" doing the deportation.

Having witnessed firsthand an ICE protest (out of curiosity in Austin) I can concluded that my experiences at the Den in late 70's were merely kids having fun with one another to what I witnessed here.

As in all protests/riots (poll tax, Brixton etc.) it's the hard-core agitators who live in the shadows and innocent, misguided protesters who get hurt.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

My observations, not arguments, are that those protesting are much more concerned about the methods and the scope than they are about the stated aim, of finding and deporting lllegal immigrants who have criminal records or intent.

There is a real concern that ICE has been expanded and turned into a para military federal force whose role will be expanded well beyond that of the expulsion of criminal aliens. There is already evidence that is happening.

Is there any evidence that they've targeted anyone who wasn't in America illegally?

 

[eaglesdare]

You cannot be serious. Anyone actually watching the videos couldn’t come to that conclusion. There haven’t been any riots. Just protests. Noisy, disruptive perhaps but just protests.

Maybe one day what you, and others try to dismiss as “TDS” will be recognised as just more Trump led deflection. It’s already happening as parts of his base peal off as they begin to understand the huge error they have made. I suspect though you might be the last man standing.

As to Leavitt and her lies I would not have expected anyone to actually need an explanation of something she does pretty much every time she opens her mouth. Just ike her boss! You only need to watch her. If you truly cannot see it then read this:-

Leavitt’s Limitless Lies Have Turned the White House Press Briefing Into a Farce - WhoWhatWhy

If it weren’t for Donald Trump, Karoline Leavitt would be the most proficient liar in the White House.

whowhatwhy.org

Hiding behind another far left blog that's been obsessed with trashing anything Trump related since day one I see. They call everything a "lie" without actual proof just like you. So again I'm still waiting for you to provide actual proof not a left wing puff piece. 👍

Provide us all with specific, verifiable examples instead of linking to an echo chamber rant.

As for the ice videos.....they show exactly what's happening that is "peaceful protests" that block ICE operations, harass agents, turn into riots with fires/property damage and even attacks on officers doing their jobs. That's not free speech, that's interference and endangerment. Protests are protected but assaulting federal agents or obstructing law enforcement is not.

As for Trump and his supporters just check fox, cnn, reuters and yougov polls that show his base are happy. Go on have a look let's see how your TDS reads the stats. 👍