Glasner to reject a new deal?

[beak]

Does he, Wolfsburg, Eintract and Palace, he's 51, not old obviously, but top coaches are paid serious money these days. If I were him I'd be looking to lock into a longer deal and really set me and my family up.

Exactly loyalty is not part of his character ,deep down my belief is that he has already ( mentally) departed but we still need to sign worthwhile players.

 

[pssguy]

I’m under the impression that OG will stay if he feels the club is moving forward. His publicly acknowledged disappointment with our summer recruitment has never boded well for me.

I therefore think that only a major spree this January would resolve this, and I don’t consider that to be likely although I have no insight whatsoever there.

We’re down to 8th in the table as things stand and seem to be falling toward a more likely end placement (having been in the top five briefly).

We won’t get relegated but I’m not hopeful of us finishing in a position that allows us to qualify for the Europa League at least or winning the ECL/FA Cup again.

So barring us miraculously winning the ECL (or FA Cup again), going undefeated for a long period like previously and/or making numerous quality signings in this window, I can’t see Glasner staying.

My prediction is for us to finish slightly above our traditional 12th, having made a couple of signings in January, with OG leaving once the season is done.

Roll on the next chapter after a quite glorious one which may have had the potential for more, but did deliver the one thing most of us had only previously dreamed about and some of us were lucky enough to be at Wembley to witness.

COYP

Agree with most of what you say, I think it is likely that we will finish 10-15 (it's a law of Nature) as any new recruits may not have swift acclimatization - none of the summer signings have consistently impressed
I would not say winning the Conference League would be a miracle; we are betting favourites

 

[pssguy]

The only local reporter who covers Palace properly is Bobby Manzi and he will have a better steer on this situation than any of us. He is critical of the board on the contract issue which is interesting.

I enjoyed the youtube/podcast he contributed to but it seems to have lapsed

 

[Paul Salvage]

I don't agree with your framing of the situation.

You are correct in that if someone is determined to leave, then no amount of money will change that. You're stating the obvious but missing a big point: What would make Glasner think this way?

I know many people on here dote over Steve Parish but you have not put any of the responsibility on him.

Glasner has publicly stated his grievances over lack of players. So if an ambitious manager has not got the support from the board, then he'd probably rather coach at a club who will give him that - and he will have plenty of offers. So yes, no amount of money for a new contract will change that.

With Freedman gone, does this mean the club's recruitment structure has collapsed? Is that why we have no-one come in?

The only local reporter who covers Palace properly is Bobby Manzi and he will have a better steer on this situation than any of us. He is critical of the board on the contract issue which is interesting.

I may have stated the obvious, but that is because some people seem to think that it is all about money and would break the bank to keep OG. (Including yourself “So it's just about his financial package? If so, you don't think the club should break the bank to keep him?”)
My main point to you wanting answers why we let OG go was that we don’t control the narrative!

OG has a long history of short term contracts and then walking away. I don’t see our situation as being different.

I do not dote over Parish, but I respect the job he has done and more importantly I am very realistic about who we are and what we can achieve. Unfortunately we don’t support a big club in terms of finances, but we remain on a sound footing and punching above our weight. I’m not sure why so many people can not understand this. We simply can not spend what we don’t have. I am not prepared to risk going into administration for a third time just for a short term gain.

I would hope that our recruitment structure hasn’t collapsed, but everyone with any common sense knows how difficult it is to get the right deals over the line. You only have to look at how many crap players are brought by our rivals for big fees and don’t improve their squads. I believe we are cautious for a reason as we have had our finger burnt in the past.
That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t get players in, we just need to get the right ones!!!!

You and Bobby Manzi are perfectly entitled to be critical of the board, it’s just my opinion that we’re doing alright!

 

[est1905]

Classic catch 22. Ollie won’t sign because Steve and the board won’t spend. Steve and the board won’t spend in case Ollie leaves and the next manager might want to set up differently.

Now… with this in said, perhaps Steve and the Selhurst massive could pick the next manager with that in mind and dare I say continue on the path that has seen us with our most glorious period ever.

However, this is Palace we are talking about, the next manager will come in and switch things up to a completely different system, perhaps a Roy style 8-1-1 formation and we can all sleep through the next 4 years of 17th to 12th finishes going out nice and early in the cups so the players can firmly concentrate on the lofty 40 points. Etc etc.

It would be funny if it wasn’t so true 😳

Parish has already said the club is not wealthy enough to rip up our play book and start again. Any new incoming manager must be familiar with the way we play and able to get the most out of players we have as well as be able to more or less use a similar if not identical system.
This enables the players we have to flourish regardless of whether the manager stays or not and it also saves the club a hug amount of money (not having to buy completely different players for certain positions.
In view of this it makes zero difference whether we spend in January or in the summer. It also makes zero difference whether Glasner is in charge or a new guy as long as the players we sign are of the best possible quality.

 

[est1905]

It is Glasner's decision apropos a continuation of the 'Project' or whether it is in his interests to seek another challenge.
I am not under the impression that personal financial considerations are pivotal in this respect.

I have also heard from many different people, media, club, even Glasner himself that he is not in any way motivated by money. He is mainly concerned about having a project that he believes in and can really get his teeth into.
This is why he was never going to go to United. They dont want Mr Right. They want Mr Right now!

 

[est1905]

The fact that he has said he will wait until mid-Jan and has made all the comments he has made about transfers, tells the story.

He will 100% base his decision on what we do in the first half of the window. It’s so obvious that that is what he is waiting for, and quite frankly it’s fair enough.

We need to show our commitment to him early on in Jan, by strengthening the squad in numbers and quality, and only then would he return the favour by very literally committing to us with a new contract.

I think there is some truth in this

 

[est1905]

The club is between a rock and a hard place here. They can't announce much publicly, yet they will need to appoint a successor. This is likely to affect the team.

I think this is what the mid January meeting is about. Closure. If he signs, happy days and we keep going as we are. If he says no then I imagine news will start to emerge that he is leaving in the summer. Once it becomes common knowledge we'll start to hear about who Palace are targeting.
Either way I wouldn't expect too much comment from OG on the subject. He does not want any of his squad distracted from the job in hand. Winning as many football matches as possible

 

[est1905]

Glasner is gone. time to look forward and start planning for the future. im sure the board have had a contigency plan in place for a while for this very instance

And you know this how?
Dont talk like you know more than the rest of us. You'll make yourself look silly if you turn out to be wrong. I have a feeling you are

 

[Putitout]

I may have stated the obvious, but that is because some people seem to think that it is all about money and would break the bank to keep OG. (Including yourself “So it's just about his financial package? If so, you don't think the club should break the bank to keep him?”)
My main point to you wanting answers why we let OG go was that we don’t control the narrative!

OG has a long history of short term contracts and then walking away. I don’t see our situation as being different.

I do not dote over Parish, but I respect the job he has done and more importantly I am very realistic about who we are and what we can achieve. Unfortunately we don’t support a big club in terms of finances, but we remain on a sound footing and punching above our weight. I’m not sure why so many people can not understand this. We simply can not spend what we don’t have. I am not prepared to risk going into administration for a third time just for a short term gain.

I would hope that our recruitment structure hasn’t collapsed, but everyone with any common sense knows how difficult it is to get the right deals over the line. You only have to look at how many crap players are brought by our rivals for big fees and don’t improve their squads. I believe we are cautious for a reason as we have had our finger burnt in the past.
That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t get players in, we just need to get the right ones!!!!

You and Bobby Manzi are perfectly entitled to be critical of the board, it’s just my opinion that we’re doing alright!

Agree with much of this. You describe the Palace situation very well. Surely OG must have taken this on board when he signed on? We were never going to turn into a top outfit over one or two seasons, there are few clubs that could.
It’s obvious the club wants progress ,but it’s also obvious the club has limitations.As punters we can only hope OG has always been much more in touch with the facts of Palace,than reports would have it. But it’s football and maybe the man’s ego is too big for a club like ours. I hope not.

 

[Paul Salvage]

I wonder when I look at the different opinions on whether we risk spending big or should stay in our own lane is a generational thing?
I think all the stay in our own lane (I include myself) are 50 plus and are pre Goldberg/Jordon supporters that have lived through 2 administrations and seen how close we came to being wound up, along with several relegation periods.
Whereas the riskier spend big supporters are younger (under 30) and are less likely to be influenced by our own history.
Are there any older supporters (50 plus) that think we should take the risk of spending big?
Also are there any younger supporters that think we need to stay in our own lane?

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

With regard to player recruitment for OG, I see it that we still need to get players in the door regardless of whether OG stays or not.
We have discovered a formation and system that clearly works and we recruit players that will fit this system, furthermore if OG decides to leave we then actively find a manager that can work with our system.
I have posted previously that I believe we have a clear DNA and that we should stick to it, and any new manager has to fit in with us and not the other way round.
We have tried changing in the past and it never works. Stick to what you are good at!

I believe that the problem is that the faith the players have in him is the hard thing to replace.

 

[Hannes]

I welcome the smorgasbord of opinions and the pot of speculation is simmering.
It is now high time that this debate is free from my rhetoric.
I am reminded of the adage "It will all come out in the wash".
😛

After visiting relatives yesterday in the 11th district of Vienna I would like to report that speculation in Simmering about Olli's future plans is rather modest. 🙂 😉

Simmering (Vienna) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[PatrickA]

Whether Glasner goes or not, we need a stronger squad.
If you get the right quality and adaptability the new player(s) should be flexible enough to deal with what Glasner or another manager requires.
I'm just watching Villa's subs totally transforming the game v Chelsea.
Sadly we don't have this luxury.

 

[Palacesince64]

I have also heard from many different people, media, club, even Glasner himself that he is not in any way motivated by money. He is mainly concerned about having a project that he believes in and can really get his teeth into.
This is why he was never going to go to United. They dont want Mr Right. They want Mr Right now!

One imagines he’s been well paid to the point that he doesn’t need to worry about money. It’s easy not to be motivated by it when you’ve already got a serious chunk in the bank.

 

[MancunianEagle]

And you know this how?
Dont talk like you know more than the rest of us. You'll make yourself look silly if you turn out to be wrong. I have a feeling you are

Its about being realistic mate. The evidence is overwhelmingly siding with a summer departure. I dont need to delve into all the reasons because deep down you already know them.

 

[MancunianEagle]

I wonder when I look at the different opinions on whether we risk spending big or should stay in our own lane is a generational thing?
I think all the stay in our own lane (I include myself) are 50 plus and are pre Goldberg/Jordon supporters that have lived through 2 administrations and seen how close we came to being wound up, along with several relegation periods.
Whereas the riskier spend big supporters are younger (under 30) and are less likely to be influenced by our own history.
Are there any older supporters (50 plus) that think we should take the risk of spending big?
Also are there any younger supporters that think we need to stay in our own lane?

Younger supporter here .Think that we dont need to "stay in our lane" per say but we do need to make sure we are able to finamcially stable and the gambles Glasner is trying to put on the board could have a potentially detrimental impact on the club however he would face none of said consequences. The club has to come over the manager everytime.

 

[chris123]

After visiting relatives yesterday in the 11th district of Vienna I would like to report that speculation in Simmering about Olli's future plans is rather modest. 🙂 😉

Simmering (Vienna) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Is that your Favoritan Landstrasse Hannes?

 

[Midlands Eagle]

loyalty is not part of his character

Rubbish. He signed a two and a half years contract and has shown no indication of wanting to break it unlike several of our players who have made it known that they want to move on to bigger clubs

 

[beak]

Rubbish. He signed a two and a half years contract and has shown no indication of wanting to break it unlike several of our players who have made it known that they want to move on to bigger clubs

He doesn't let the grass grow does he he is very quick to look for pastures new. Smell the☕