Crystal Palace vs Man Utd match thread

Just realised we have Burnley Wednesday and Fulham Sunday .Training will have to be sessions of keepy uppy ,or shooting at empty goals ,that’s about all we have energy for 😂
 
ex hibitionist said:
United stepped up and we weren't at the races second half - need to buy in Jan. I think the Mateta knockers should rein it in a bit - real nerve to retake the pen and was brilliant setting up Mitchell v Strasbourg - he has missed a few I know. Thought Nketiah was starting to shine but showed again today he's worse at 1-1s than JP.
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I like JP. In the end analysis he reminds me a bit of Emile Heskey, big and strong, hard working, yet not as clinical as might be possible. This is an honest appraisal, he brings a lot to the side.
The schedule of games has proved what many said at the beginning of the season; we don't have the cover to play to the same high standard in each and every game, and it's becoming very noticeable.
 
JHB said:
Like most of us I like the fact OG wants to win in all competitions. The fact we have a small squad means he has to prioritise though and he isn’t. Consequently our performances have dipped in both competitions.

It’s probably too late now in any case. The damage is done. We can’t get the points back and the squad is already knackered. We run a real risk of not qualifying from teh Conference League and our strong EPL start hasn’t been built on. Hope I am wrong but I think December could be grim and we may find ourselves needing to buy in January to stop us slipping close to the relegation battle rather than challenging for European places.
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Those are also my thoughts. Relegation or near relegation is a strong possibility whilst we have Thursday night football and Glasners late substitutes and that’s without stating the obvious regarding missed chances - Grrr! Moan Utd would have lost against nearly if not all the prem teams today. Sadly we were poorer. You could see after missing those chances and the five minutes of added time in the first half the tiredness of our team. Substitutions should have been made then and perhaps we would have been fresher? A defeat was on the cards seeing that last 5 mins of first half so no harm trying to protect the lead with fresh legs. Glasner in my opinion was more at fault than those knackered players in my opinion but that doesn’t take away those missed chances - Grrr again
 
From the Guardian commentary...

"Palace have now lost three and drawn one (a 0-0 draw against Brighton) in the Premier League matches that came directly after their four Conference League matches this season."

Clearly we'll need to compromise and set priorities. Devenny, Nketiah, Hughes and Lerma should prepare for more action. Canvot, too, though our backs have seldom shown signs of fatigue.
 
As others have said, squad depth is the issue. We need to get a couple of quality players in the next transfer window to keep the best possible finish in the League. I am certain the club will want to back the manager in this.

The system Glasner employs is still working and chances are coming. Onwards to Burnley.
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
Who?
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I thought you knew everything.

How about you go do your home work.

Roy was very clear about DF and his team did all that & this has been backed up by Sam & PV mentioned it.

This is how modern day football works managers are not really managers they are first team coach.

Go listen to SP he speaks about it and had mentioned about how the summer transfer windows worked he was dealing with a lot of it (Still spoke to DF about some of the targets that had been laid out when DF was still at the club)
 
grumpymort said:
It doesn't matter look at the squad they have quality in every area even off the bench.

We are not getting any rest period either when that game comes up.
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Then by that logic that comp needs to be sacrificed .Go all out in Conference league .I personally would rather we throw the kitchen sink at the Conference ,don’t know how many on here agree with me .
 
So Im back ,the dog walking duties complete

I hoped ,I really hoped we would pull this one back but it seems my fears were right and we just stumbled to an un-glorious defeat .

Rinse and repeat it seems with our midweek outings taking more away from us than it gives . Fatigue may play a small part but more likely the time to prepare for the next match is what is giving us problems .
As mentioned we need a couple of oven ready players as history has shown if you try to do Europe on the cheap it will trip you up
 
Frenchaigle said:
Then by that logic that comp needs to be sacrificed .Go all out in Conference league .I personally would rather we throw the kitchen sink at the Conference ,don’t know how many on here agree with me .
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For me personally, the PL is the only priority. It is the hardest competition to complete in and has the greatest possible rewards. I look at the league and we are very much in touching distance for a high finish as things stand.
 
Frenchaigle said:
Then by that logic that comp needs to be sacrificed .Go all out in Conference league .I personally would rather we throw the kitchen sink at the Conference ,don’t know how many on here agree with me .
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Isint that what spurs and man u did last season for the Europa. Once they were safe tbh they threw all their prem games and focused on trying win the cup.

Surely there is a balance to be had? Some our bench players like devenny should be starting midweek games. Doesn't have to be drastic changes.
 
I said previously that we need a player in the mould of Geoff Thomas with the shot of Darren Ambrose, which is a lot to ask .
Nevertheless I think an experienced midfielder who can help guide Wharton would be beneficial. We don't command the central areas and Kamada and Pino are lightweight. Neither add steel to the midfield nor offer much in attack.
I think a different manager would use the players we have differently. I still remain unconvinced by our midfield and Glasner's pairings.
 
This has probably been commented on but I haven't read the thread. Just seen Glasner talking to TNT saying quite bluntly that we saved rather than spent in the summer, the players haven't had the support they deserve and we've missed the opportunity to have an even better season.

Unfortunately I get the opinion that ultimately it's this that will lead him to leave the club. He was very clear that we needed to invest and early and, honestly, we didn't really do either.

It's difficult because we don't want the club to be run irresponsibly but when you see where we are in the league versus the spend table each season, it does make you wonder where we could be if we just went for it one year.
 
park the bus said:
I said previously that we need a player in the mould of Geoff Thomas with the shot of Darren Ambrose, which is a lot to ask .
Nevertheless I think an experienced midfielder who can help guide Wharton would be beneficial. We don't command the central areas and Kamada and Pino are lightweight. Neither add steel to the midfield nor offer much in attack.
I think a different manager would use the players we have differently. I still remain unconvinced by our midfield and Glasner's pairings.
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Oh for a Granit Xhaka.
 
Just watched OG’s interview on the BBC website. He’s just as upset as we are - but interestingly, criticised the club for not investing in more players in the summer. He felt January was too late to buy new players, as over 50% of the season would have already been played.

Hmmmm…can’t see him being with us next season
 
Canterbury Palace said:
This has probably been commented on but I haven't read the thread. Just seen Glasner talking to TNT saying quite bluntly that we saved rather than spent in the summer, the players haven't had the support they deserve and we've missed the opportunity to have an even better season.

Unfortunately I get the opinion that ultimately it's this that will lead him to leave the club. He was very clear that we needed to invest and early and, honestly, we didn't really do either.

It's difficult because we don't want the club to be run irresponsibly but when you see where we are in the league versus the spend table each season, it does make you wonder where we could be if we just went for it one year.
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All true. The summer window was a missed opportunity. It’s also true that OG knew where we stood from the moment the window closed and instead of being pragmatic about using the squad he’s got he’s just run our best 11 into the ground. That’s on him. We know our back up players aren’t that great but you need to play with the squad you’ve got and not the one you wish you had. If that means deprioritising the Conference League so be it. It’s not like consistently rolling out the best 11 has exactly worked in that competition. Would we really be any worse off in it if we’d played squad players?
 
JHB said:
All true. The summer window was a missed opportunity. It’s also true that OG knew where we stood from the moment the window closed and instead of being pragmatic about using the squad he’s got he’s just run our best 11 into the ground. That’s on him. We know our back up players aren’t that great but you need to play with the squad you’ve got and not the one you wish you had. If that means deprioritising the Conference League so be it. It’s not like consistently rolling out the best 11 has exactly worked in that competition. Would we really be any worse off in it if we’d played squad players?
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It could be OG's way of saying to Parish "We need to sign in January, look how it's gone despite all best efforts".
 
VinceHilaire said:
Just watched OG’s interview on the BBC website. He’s just as upset as we are - but interestingly, criticised the club for not investing in more players in the summer. He felt January was too late to buy new players, as over 50% of the season would have already been played.

Hmmmm…can’t see him being with us next season
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Mr Glasner is extremely clear about his ideas and plans, and he is very candid in what is required to make them happen. I think we can all agree that OG is elite tier in management terms.

If the club really want to try and keep him, they know what needs to happen.
 
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