Palace Old Geezer
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Shocking isn't it Foxy. Our beloved country must be a laughing stock around the world, and it's embarrassing
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cryrst
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Apparently she is more anti immigrant than others and at least she can’t be called racist. Could be a clever move by 2TK.
More in hope than expectation though.
Rudi Hedman
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I won’t hold my breath. It’ll be another knife stuck into the British people.
cryrst
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It’s the hope that kills 😳
Definitely in line with my thinking. Her status as a Muslim will give her far more lee-way to be authoritarian when it comes to any attempts to crack down on crime. White Lefties are just f***ing scum and literally defend the rights of shop-lifters but will be hesitant to try and stop a Muslim for fear of the R word being leveled at them. Definitely not great for us Far-Right types because the two-tier stuff, at least on the political side, will not diminish but potentially, if she can get to grips with the insane levels of petty crime blighting peoples lives, then definitely a chance for Labour to at least gain some ground or at least stop losing it.
That should be bread and butter for a normal person
Sorry I don't buy it, if he is then she is in the wrong party. I can't see how you can progress in labour if you are a hardliner on that topic. More likely another re-arrange the deckchairs politician.
Forest Hillbilly
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The reshuffle, but running out of cards in the deck.
An opportunity to get Rachel from accounts moved, but after giving an ill-judged endorsement to Rayner, she's kept her head down.
I wonder when Starmer will be desperate enough to play the Joker. Diane Abbott. 😀
An opportunity to get Rachel from accounts moved, but after giving an ill-judged endorsement to Rayner, she's kept her head down.
I wonder when Starmer will be desperate enough to play the Joker. Diane Abbott. 😀
The new Home secretary's family come from Mirpur, the area where most of the Pakistani child rapists come from. She was one of the signatories of the infamous non flight to the West Indies, along with Starmer where of the of non deported subsequently murdered someone in the UK.
She is conflicted and ideological at best.
Pray for the UK
Rudi Hedman
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She will always side with a Muslim I reckon. This makes the country even more fecked. Voted in by religion, policy and decisions based on religion, favouritism for religion.
In time you’ll hear ‘’Religion religion religion’’ at party conferences. Or ‘’Islam Islsm Islam’’ with everyone on their knees and not seats. No facial responses to speeches from half the audience because they’re in Burkas.
Rudi Hedman
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Hamid Patel was the interim chair of Ofsted this year btw…
Rudi Hedman
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You need to watch the full video. A few years ago they stopped having the Muslim MP’s swear to the bible only. They swore to the Quran also, often in their foreign language. They would ask why is it in a box. Now they don’t swear to the bible at all. This is irrelevant I hear the usual idiots say…
MP's have to swear an oath of allegiance to the crown, Sinn Fein of course refused and so would not take their seat.
I have never got why in modern Britain this has not been changed. MPs should be made to take an oath (non religious) to the electorate of the UK e.g. I will carry out the promises I made during my election and I will not trouser money or gifts from dubious sources, fiddle my expenses or my taxes etc.
An MPs loyalty should not be to the crown but to their constituents.
I have never got why in modern Britain this has not been changed. MPs should be made to take an oath (non religious) to the electorate of the UK e.g. I will carry out the promises I made during my election and I will not trouser money or gifts from dubious sources, fiddle my expenses or my taxes etc.
An MPs loyalty should not be to the crown but to their constituents.
chris123
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It's to the head of state
Stirlingsays
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The traitor party....well as part of the uniparty.
These intakes are a mockery of what was intended.
Stirlingsays
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That reality of that leads to sectarianism.
That's getting stronger due to demographics anyway but that would make it quicker.
Hey, perhaps that's for the better, Matov certainly wants to get on with it......I suppose I'm a bit 'meh' about the timing myself.
Yes but why? If Hitler were head of state would they owe their loyalty to him? Surely their loyalty is to the country and the voters and that should override loyalty to any individual.
Hitler made the army change their loyalty oath to him, which all the Nazi's after the war used as their excuse for what happened.
chris123
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Magna Carta and everything since
Fine can we bring back serfdom as well.
Our constitution is not a written one and constantly evolves e.g. Blair and the Uman Rights. I am just advocating that MPs loyalty should be to the country and not to an individual.
And their is no need for MPs to swear on a holy book. It's a job we all sign contracts when we start one, I was never asked to swear on the bible that I would obey company policy.
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Like I say I'm not that bothered about what the system is here.
What I'd suggest Badger is that it doesn' matter that much.
At the end of the day it's who controls the military and security services.....once the person in power has that locked down it doesn't really matter what some rule book says.
The rules and laws in of themselves aren't that important. What is important is who is interpreting them and their intent.
Blair for example radically changed the delegation of powers in the country taking them away from parliament and out to his panel friends.
I'd suggest those that think this would be straight forward in changing back to pre-Blair are not understanding how it all works......You'd literally have to sack thousands of civil service and replace them with your own guys......This is what 2016 Trump found out.
Do we think Farage is the guy to do that?
I certainly don't......though I will enjoy the show.