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Woke is alive and well

Spindle said:
A quick google says it's a complete lie. Not hard to find out so you can make informed decisions is it.
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Hangggggg on there....

He's on record saying that 'trans women are women'. In other words this isn't a lie, he just hasn't been caught saying the obvious implication because he's what he is.....a liar to both sides.

www.standard.co.uk

Keir Starmer says ‘trans women are women’ as he calls for ‘respectful’ debate

The Labour leader supports one of the key demands of feminists who have clashed with transgender activists by insisting on safe spaces - such as toilets - for those born as women
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk
 
Stirlingsays said:
Hangggggg on there....

He's on record saying that 'trans women are women'. In other words this isn't a lie, he just hasn't been caught saying the obvious implication because he's what he is.....a liar to both sides.

www.standard.co.uk

Keir Starmer says ‘trans women are women’ as he calls for ‘respectful’ debate

The Labour leader supports one of the key demands of feminists who have clashed with transgender activists by insisting on safe spaces - such as toilets - for those born as women
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk
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That's 2022. It's not his position now nor that of the party, and it's disingenuous to not clarify that.
 
Spindle said:
That's 2022. It's not his position now nor that of the party, and it's disingenuous to not clarify that.
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No it isn't and the reason it isn't is because there has been no change in position.

What he did was later on say....purely because there was an election coming up.....'A woman is an adult human female'......but at the same time also saying, 'trans women are women'......Which means the first statement is bollocks because the truth of what he saying is both women and men with penises who identify as women are women.

So sorry mate, someone has to stand up for all the actual women.....Most of whom don't want this nonsense.
 
Last year he literally gave the biological definition, but added that some people don't agree with their own biological gender, and that he wants to protect the rights of people. I don't find much wrong with that, and it's certainly at odds with what Badenoch said and what you are trying to uphold.

Now you could say that he's a weathervane politician, like most of them, but that's different entirely. I'd just like a politician with principles rather that the crock of weathervanes and LIARS (which is worse) that we've been gifted with for 40 years.
 
If he had balls....pun intended....He's say, trans women are trans-sexuals.

Because as anyone honest knows no one can change their sex.....and gender is a social construct - an intangible.

They sometimes talk about Intersex being a 'third sex', but it's a very rare and unfortunate anomaly instead of being an actual sex.

I'm all for going back to the eighties socially, where you'd have your 'Boy George' and he'd go off and do what he'd want within the law and no one batted an eyelid.....but we didn't talk b0llocks about chicks with dicks being a real thing.
 
Stirlingsays said:
If he had balls....pun intended....He's say, trans women are trans-sexuals.

Because as anyone honest knows no one can change their sex.....and gender is a social construct....Intersex not being a 'third sex', but a very rare and unfortunate anomaly.

I'm all for going back to the eighties socially, where you'd have your 'Boy George' and he'd go off and do what he'd want within the law and no one batted an eyelid.....but we didn't talk b0llocks about chicks with dicks being a real thing.
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Like all of them he'll do what it takes to get elected. He said that because of advice, and was told by more advice that it was s*** and he should change it. I don't think you'll get his real thoughts on it at all because I'm certain it'll be just biological, although I would think that he is a defender of individual rights.

Everything else is just the same old shitty divisive slander that is helping distract and drag us into more s*** whilst others pilfer and steal without being noticed. Hell in a basket.
 
Spindle said:
Like all of them he'll do what it takes to get elected. He said that because of advice, and was told by more advice that it was s*** and he should change it. I don't think you'll get his real thoughts on it at all because I'm certain it'll be just biological, although I would think that he is a defender of individual rights.

Everything else is just the same old shitty divisive slander that is helping distract and drag us into more s*** whilst others pilfer and steal without being noticed. Hell in a basket.
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Pandering to Karens just gets us more Karens.

That's the real name of the Labour party.

The Karen Party.
 
kevlee said:
all above is a little out of date now as the UK Supreme Court have ruled that sex in binary and biological, so debate is over
male = with
woman - without (generally)

www.bbc.co.uk

UK Supreme Court rules legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex - live updates

Judges say the "concept of sex is binary" while cautioning that the landmark ruling should not be seen as victory of one side over another.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Yep, finally some sense on the matter and what the large majority have been saying all along. Tell these woke idiots to Foxtrot Oscar!
 
Spindle said:
Bollocks it's the lot of them, unless you think this horseshit has only been happening for 6 months.
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To an extent I'd agree with that.

But come on....It may be Karen's all the way down.....but the left are the defacto standard in Karenship.....While the Conservatives are battling it out amongst themselves for the leftovers.

Reform's base are far more based than Farage himself and the only hope is currently with them.

Though don't get me wrong, as soon as someone with real balls turns up....
 
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