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[ripleyeagle]

I'm afraid to say I'm hearing the tea lady has put in a transfer request and wants a move before the end of January.

My sources are telling me that she is seething at us deciding to downgrade from Yorkshire Teabags to Lidl own brand. She's been quoted as saying we have broken promises and clearly lack ambition.

Being linked with an 18 year old tea lady from Le Havre instead who currently makes quite raw tea but is supposed to have outstanding potential.

Fantastic post, really cheered me up in these uncertain times.Less we forget, it’s only a game!!

 

[ripleyeagle]

Against us though, just isn't worth it. We were the idiots who overpaid. Liverpool can ask what they like. We should perhaps learn from that. It's called business and it's also a part of life.

We have swopped Liverpool now for north London clubs turning us over for inflated transfer fees, Nketiah and Johnson, I know the latter is early days but I unfortunately have a gut feeling.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Lacroix, Wharton, Henderson, Doucoure, Riad, Sarr, will not be sold this window or the next, reason, they might not achieved their top value yet, all on 2029 contracts, or Pino, Johnson, Nketiah, Canvot or Kporha, for similar reasons.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Lacroix, Wharton, Henderson, Doucoure, Riad, Sarr, will not be sold this window or the next, reason, they might not achieved their top value yet, all on 2029 contracts, or Pino, Johnson, Nketiah, Canvot or Kporha, for similar reasons.

At this rate Parish will be on here asking for volunteers.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

At this rate Parish will be on here asking for volunteers.

Parish will sell when he is ready to sell, rightly or wrongly.

 

[ASCPFC]

Parish will sell when he is ready to sell, rightly or wrongly.

Or people will buy when they want to buy when you take a look at it.
No one seemed to mention much about it, but I wasn't happy to hear Eze was on the phone to Arteta begging him to buy him. What the f*** happened there. Let Eze ring up Pep now and see what happens. That's where we're weak in my opinion.
Mateta plays up - sell Mateta.
Glasner has a meltdown - sack Glasner.
Guehi wouldn't renew - sell last year.

We're fannying about and looking like tools now. There has to be some kind of minimum standard of behaviour and conduct and it has to be made clear to everyone.

 

[ASCPFC]

At this rate Parish will be on here asking for volunteers.

When you think about this it's quite funny. My whole life I'd have said yes. It would have been a dream. Right now, I would say no. What exactly has happened there? Perhaps I shouldn't blame anyone for leaving currently.

 

[SurbsEagle]

Or people will buy when they want to buy when you take a look at it.
No one seemed to mention much about it, but I wasn't happy to hear Eze was on the phone to Arteta begging him to buy him. What the f*** happened there. Let Eze ring up Pep now and see what happens. That's where we're weak in my opinion.
Mateta plays up - sell Mateta.
Glasner has a meltdown - sack Glasner.
Guehi wouldn't renew - sell last year.

We're fannying about and looking like tools now. There has to be some kind of minimum standard of behaviour and conduct and it has to be made clear to everyone.

Spurs paid his release clause so he phoned Arteta to see if Arsenal would go in for him so he had the option to go there rather than Spurs. He didn't call Arteta out the blue - we'd already agreed to sell him.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

When you think about this it's quite funny. My whole life I'd have said yes. It would have been a dream. Right now, I would say no. What exactly has happened there? Perhaps I shouldn't blame anyone for leaving currently.

Is this your way of telling Real Madrid you're available?

 

[ASCPFC]

Spurs paid his release clause so he phoned Arteta to see if Arsenal would go in for him so he had the option to go there rather than Spurs. He didn't call Arteta out the blue - we'd already agreed to sell him.

I know. Is that how transfers work at other clubs do you think? It's always us with the Ron Noades transfer model.

 

[Eaglecoops]

A lot of sensible and realistic posts on this thread, IMHO.

I would guess that the major ambition (Parish) is for us to be a team that is not relegated from the PL and playing in an upgraded stadium.

We won the FA Cup and are playing, albeit poorly, in Europe. That feels like the most success we could have possibly hoped for. I didn’t think it would ever come to pass.

The likelihood of us kicking on from there was not impossible but I do think it a bit naive to just expect it to pan out as such. The vultures came and further investment in playing staff did not, so the manager has thrown a wobbly.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we witness nothing but sticking plasters to avoid relegation from here on in, until such a point the stadium work is done.

I’m too familiar with it all by now to feel aggrieved by it. Even with the team seemingly falling apart under a manager who has no answers and doesn’t wish to be here, I’m somewhat thinking ‘meh, it’ll work out and we’ll just finish 12th again’.

We haven’t won a game or even looked competitive for a while though, and that’s where my annoyance lies as I just want to watch Palace in a competitive match!!

We're quickly going from European CUp winners elect to potentially only just about having enough players to field a team and maybe miraculously avoid relegation. C'est la vie and such is Palace.

The fans knew exactly what was required during the summer and it didn’t involve spending £100m. But true to form we completely screwed that window and instead of strengthening we left ourselves with a paper thin squad that sure enough fell to pieces once we were hit by injuries, sales speculation and Afcon.

It wasn’t rocket science to get a bit of depth into the squad but yet again Parish and co have failed.

I partially blame Glasner as well because he kept publicising that he liked small squads and using the same players, which he did until they all fell apart.

The bad run started, shortly followed by the bad vibes and now the perfect storm of a downhill spiral. It would have been so much easier to stop all of this with 4 or 5 new players in the summer window (2 or 3 of them whom could have been paid for with the Johnson money).

Considering how successful we were last season we really have made a total pigs ear of it this year. It really is amateur hour at times at Palace.

 

[CrazyBadger]

Do you have any names in mind who you think could do something along those lines?

well I don't profess to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of available managers, but the only one with PL experience that comes to mind would be Marco Silva,(although I've never really liked him). He's kept Fulham fairly solid for a while now, and reckon he's improved since he first came in to the league. But of the names mentioned, that anti-Football fella from Getafe would be my vote!

*edit* I obviously somehow forgot about Iraola. though we'd need to see out this season first

 

[NMPalace]

Lacroix, Wharton, Henderson, Doucoure, Riad, Sarr, will not be sold this window or the next, reason, they might not achieved their top value yet, all on 2029 contracts, or Pino, Johnson, Nketiah, Canvot or Kporha, for similar reasons.

well 3 of the above have been injured all season so i agree they won't get sold. Similarly 3 have only been bought in the last 6 months so clearly won't also be sold.

 

[JHB]

The fans knew exactly what was required during the summer and it didn’t involve spending £100m. But true to form we completely screwed that window and instead of strengthening we left ourselves with a paper thin squad that sure enough fell to pieces once we were hit by injuries, sales speculation and Afcon.

It wasn’t rocket science to get a bit of depth into the squad but yet again Parish and co have failed.

I partially blame Glasner as well because he kept publicising that he liked small squads and using the same players, which he did until they all fell apart.

The bad run started, shortly followed by the bad vibes and now the perfect storm of a downhill spiral. It would have been so much easier to stop all of this with 4 or 5 new players in the summer window (2 or 3 of them whom could have been paid for with the Johnson money).

Considering how successful we were last season we really have made a total pigs ear of it this year. It really is amateur hour at times at Palace.

Just to look at this you say we didn’t have to spend £100m but in reality to give us the squad we probably needed to compete then we did. Between Pino and Canvot we spent c£45m and another £17.3m obligation to buy for Uche if we played him. We also brought Sosa for something like £2.5m. So that’s an outlay of north of £60m. If we addressed the need for a like for like JPM replacement / rotation option that would be £30m at least for a proven striker. Add in cover at right back and you are close to £100m.

If you look at our spend across the summer and Jan it is close to the £100m mark.

Now we can all have a view on whether the money was invested in the right places or on the right targets but the spend level needed was always going to be high.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

well 3 of the above have been injured all season so i agree they won't get sold. Similarly 3 have only been bought in the last 6 months so clearly won't also be sold.

Doucoure, Could, come back and play to a decent standard, If, he did for 4 months he becomes a 40m Player, Wharton is 80m player in 18 months, and Lacroix would be 60m+

 

[silvertop]

Spurs paid his release clause so he phoned Arteta to see if Arsenal would go in for him so he had the option to go there rather than Spurs. He didn't call Arteta out the blue - we'd already agreed to sell him.

...for a very good price to a club he had always dreamed of playing for

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

well 3 of the above have been injured all season so i agree they won't get sold. Similarly 3 have only been bought in the last 6 months so clearly won't also be sold.

With them 11 Players, Plus Richards, Mitchell, Hughes, Lerma and Devenny you have a decent 16 players, 3 more, premier league ready players with the 90m if Mateta and Muñoz go it isnt terrible.

 

[silvertop]

Doucoure, Could, come back and play to a decent standard, If, he did for 4 months he becomes a 40m Player, Wharton is 80m player in 18 months, and Lacroix would be 60m+

Along with Mitchell - talk about unsung heroes.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Just to look at this you say we didn’t have to spend £100m but in reality to give us the squad we probably needed to compete then we did. Between Pino and Canvot we spent c£45m and another £17.3m obligation to buy for Uche if we played him. We also brought Sosa for something like £2.5m. So that’s an outlay of north of £60m. If we addressed the need for a like for like JPM replacement / rotation option that would be £30m at least for a proven striker. Add in cover at right back and you are close to £100m.

If you look at our spend across the summer and Jan it is close to the £100m mark.

Now we can all have a view on whether the money was invested in the right places or on the right targets but the spend level needed was always going to be high.

Dont forget 35m for Johnson, that's your 100m, with no RB or CF

 

[Nicholas91]

The fans knew exactly what was required during the summer and it didn’t involve spending £100m. But true to form we completely screwed that window and instead of strengthening we left ourselves with a paper thin squad that sure enough fell to pieces once we were hit by injuries, sales speculation and Afcon.

It wasn’t rocket science to get a bit of depth into the squad but yet again Parish and co have failed.

I partially blame Glasner as well because he kept publicising that he liked small squads and using the same players, which he did until they all fell apart.

The bad run started, shortly followed by the bad vibes and now the perfect storm of a downhill spiral. It would have been so much easier to stop all of this with 4 or 5 new players in the summer window (2 or 3 of them whom could have been paid for with the Johnson money).

Considering how successful we were last season we really have made a total pigs ear of it this year. It really is amateur hour at times at Palace.

Yes.

I am of the belief that some risk was taken by the club, especially if there was already doubt or knowlegde of Glasner leaving (so do they buy players for Palace or for Glasner?).

That risk has backfired unfortunately but equally, I'm guessing we weren't in a position to nonchalantly throw money at players purely for the sake of it, for one season (this season).

We're not rich, we lost our previously successful DoF, we had a manager who most probably knew was leaving at the end of the season anyway and our playing in Europe is likely viewed as a freak circumstance as opposed to the start of a 'new norm'.

This would all just be the reality of football and a club like ours.

I would suggest almost every year I've known what the solution was, and it has always been to buy more and better players. Fortunately, I am not running the club. I would guess that those who do run the club hold a bigger picture of things in their head and plan for the longer term, mostly from a financial perspective.

I'm guessing that the gamble was for everyone to stay fit, JPM to continue as he did last season, Nketiah to be hailed the next coming of Henry, Sarr to return home early, all other teams in the league to cry about how Pino is Messi in disguise and wonder how we got him, and that results and fortune would just go our way.

None of the above has happened. We now look utterly sh!te, barely have a starting XI, the Manager is giving up and we look about as close to a win as we are to signing Haaland this window.

Fun times.