Who's Next?

Eaglecoops said:
You have to ask yourself does this happen at Brentford, at Fulham, at West Ham, at Wolves, even at Brighton and if not why are we singled out for this crappy behaviour?
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I think there is always an inevitability that the likes of Olise, Eze, Marc and probably Wharton will move on to bigger (not necessarily better! ) things than Palace. We offer these young players real opportunities to showcase their skills and then sell at a good profit.
My issue with that is that I don’t feel we ever get the top prices the likes of Brighton and Brentford get. Yes 60 odd million is great but they seem to get 80-100m for players that are no better than those I have just mentioned. This may be because we set buy out clauses too low, but maybe that’s the only way we can secure them?

I think the reason we haven’t had great success recently in replacing them is there are not that many standout youngsters that would be available. We took a gamble on Esse, but he hasn’t been given much chance under OG.
The main reason for the lack of talent is the likes of Chelsea and City take all these players so young and fill their academies and then end up selling them at fees we can’t afford. (Palmer, McAtee, Bobb)
With regard to players getting too big for their boots we do see it at other teams (Isak for one) but it just seems that as soon as we have had some success the likes of JP and Munoz think they can demand champions league football and £150k a week, and the reason Brighton and Brentford maybe don’t have this is because they haven’t won anything! 🤣
 
There is no doubt OG and his team improved players like JPM, Sarr and Lerma to the point where they were like new signings
 
Houston Eagle said:
The powers at play in world football were put on notice as soon we lifted the FA cup. Corrupt chairmen and officials circled the wagons to ensure a small South London club didn’t disrupt the football ecosystem or money flow.

Parish didn’t have the experience, status or money to be able to navigate the headwinds!

One way or another it would have ended very badly for us. It’s almost a blessing the speed of decline as we haven’t threatened the long term financial stability of the club.
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The same can be said about Leicester. The upper echelons don’t like it when upstarts come along and give them a bloody nose. They close ranks, change rules and then kick sand in our face.
But this time they will never take away that run at the end of 23/24 when we were the best team in Europe, with Olise, Eze and JP on fire, or our fa cup win and Charity shield triumph.
They can go fcuk themselves and we can go back to enjoying Saturday football.
 
We can’t force players or managers to stay and we can’t pay over the top money to keep them happy.

The dice are loaded against teams like Palace by people more powerful than Parish.

This current group have made our dreams come true. Some will flourish elsewhere and win titles and others will crash and burn.

We have a great club and many more memories to cherish!
 
PatrickA said:
I take no pleasure in saying this but it's all downhill now.
This is unavoidable with all the downgrades throughout the club.
This is more a realistic view rather than a negative one.
Freedman was a key figure at the club with overall responsibility for all football related matters and gas been sorely missed.
He has been replaced by a figure sacked by Wolves who I understand is on a short term contract and who has nothing of Freedman's stature.
I doubt Glasner's successor will be able to match Glasner's record of turning us into a team that feared nobody and won the only major competitions in our long history.
Players who have joined/may join are nowhere near the quailty of Eze, Olise and Guehi .
Players who have joined in recent windows are average at best.
People decry JPM at the moment because of his recent poor form and supposed transfer request.
However, I would wager his replacement will not achieve anything like his goal record in the last couple of seasons.
Downgrades all over the place, with the exception of Lacroix over Anderson, but that's a rare example.

Rather than a team looking at the top 6 , which we were under Glasner with elite players, we're looking again at a future where mid-table will be the goal.
I suppose in historical terms that's still an achievement, but it's sad to the dream die.
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I can't argue with the above.

And maybe I'm taking recent events harder than I usually would because at last, after 59 years of going to Palace, I have tasted success and want more. But that's only natural, right ?

The football authorities really aren't interested in a club like Palace beyond something like last seasons romance of us winning a trophy for the first time. But heaven forbid it should be a regular occurance.

While I have a growing realisation that we are seemingly heading back to the days of the annual race for the x number of points to stay in the Premier League, I'm struggling to accept it.

As I said to Mrs. Neillo ( well she will be in July ) this morning, I'm starting to feel like I've reached my own personal glass ceiling as a fan. I've seen us win two trophies in the last year, maybe that's it.
 
Foxy82 said:
Eze gone
Guehi gone
Glasner as good as gone
Mateta wants out

Who's next?
Munoz, probably in the summer?
Wharton, maybe next January?

I know we're supposed to be a 'selling club', but I hate it.

This pretty much sum's up how I feel right now. Pants truly sodden.

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I'm afraid to say I'm hearing the tea lady has put in a transfer request and wants a move before the end of January.

My sources are telling me that she is seething at us deciding to downgrade from Yorkshire Teabags to Lidl own brand. She's been quoted as saying we have broken promises and clearly lack ambition.

Being linked with an 18 year old tea lady from Le Havre instead who currently makes quite raw tea but is supposed to have outstanding potential.
 
NEILLO said:
I can't argue with the above.

And maybe I'm taking recent events harder than I usually would because at last, after 59 years of going to Palace, I have tasted success and want more. But that's only natural, right ?

The football authorities really aren't interested in a club like Palace beyond something like last seasons romance of us winning a trophy for the first time. But heaven forbid it should be a regular occurance.

While I have a growing realisation that we are seemingly heading back to the days of the annual race for the x number of points to stay in the Premier League, I'm struggling to accept it.

As I said to Mrs. Neillo ( well she will be in July ) this morning, I'm starting to feel like I've reached my own personal glass ceiling as a fan. I've seen us win two trophies in the last year, maybe that's it.
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It's part of the penalty following last year's success, the God's decree this stuff as a test.

And congrats
 
I think Mateta will go now, and he should, i think Muñoz will go in the summer, and i think he should, but imo Wharton and everybody else will stay, and the new manager will have the funds of Guehi, Mateta and Muñoz to spend, about 90m
 
The Deloitte football index just published puts us at 25th in the world in terms of income. So there’s an awful lot more behind us than in front of us. Having said that, we have about a quarter of Liverpools income, which explains why we lose our best players.
Deloitte Football Money League 2026 | Deloitte UK

It’s all about managing the ins and outs which has been pretty good in recent times. If we want to climb higher we need to increase our income, hence the new stand.
 
Ah the old adage about one bad apple, how true.
In the meantime it might be worth looking at the trees and the wood, to see if a clearer picture can be found.
2024, Palace heading towards the relegation zone under Roy Hodgson, despite having excellent potential in the squad. In a remarkable turnaround, Hodgson is taken ill and seemingly from nowhere Glasner steps in as the new manager, to which the players respond and the team romp home for the remainder of the season. The star player is undoubtedly Michael Olise, and Palace fans must have been looking forward to the new season. Alas Olise is sold to German giants Bayern Munich, signalling a trend that continues to this day, particularly after the club has its best ever season (after a poor start) winning two domestic trophies and qualifying for European competition. Look out! Here come the sharks! Palace's success is noted by the "elite" clubs and FA cup goal scorer Eze is off to Arsenal for a handsome sum, star England centre half Guehi goes to Manchester City after being coveted by Liverpool, and goal machine Mateta says he wants out, echoing his manager's words, who had announced his departure and who would not be renewing his contract at the of the season.
Chairman Steve Parish has never seen such a large amount from a season's sales, he's likely over the moon, as building a new stand isn't getting any cheaper.
What does it all mean? Palace sold its 3 best players in Olise, Eze and Guehi. Mateta is sure to follow. The manager is leaving, quite possibly sooner rather than later. The side looks rudderless and the squad lacks depth. The league position has reverted to the days of Hodgson and doesn't look like improving any time soon.
Talk of Palace being a selling club is misplaced, up until recently the club had only sold Bolasie and AWB for decent money. Only in this latest phase has the club moved away from the "seasoned pro" approach to invest in younger talent, which monetarily at least has balanced the books.
For a very brief period all seemed possible, the right manager, the right players, all came together at the right time to deliver a piece of club history. But its gone now. Back to survival strategy and rebuilding.
 
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park the bus said:
Ah the old adage about one bad apple, how true.
In the meantime it might be worth looking at the trees and the wood, to see if a clearer picture can be found.
2024, Palace heading towards the relegation zone under Roy Hodgson, despite having excellent potential in the squad. In a remarkable turnaround, Hodgson is taken ill and seemingly from nowhere Glasner steps in as the new manager, to which the players respond and the team romp home for the remainder of the season. The star player is undoubtedly Michael Olise, and Palace fans must have been looking forward to the new season. Alas Olise is sold to German giants Bayern Munich, signalling a trend that continues to this day, particularly after the club has its best ever season (after a poor start) winning two domestic trophies and qualifying for European competition. Look out! Here come the sharks! Palace's success is noted by the "elite" clubs and FA cup goal scorer Eze is off to Arsenal for a handsome sum, star England centre half Guehi goes to Manchester City after being coveted by Liverpool, and goal machine Mateta says he wants out, echoing his manager's words, who announces his departure at the end of the season.
Chairman Steve Parish has never seen such a large amount from a season's sales, he's likely over the moon, as building a new stand isn't getting any cheaper.
What does it all mean? Palace sold its 3 best players in Olise, Eze and Guehi. Mateta is sure to follow. The manager is leaving, quite possibly sooner rather than later. The side looks rudderless and the squad lacks depth. The league position has reverted to the days of Hodgson and doesn't look like improving any time soon.
Talk of Palace being a selling club is misplaced, up until recently the club had only sold Bolasie and AWB for decent money. Only in this latest phase has the club moved away from the "seasoned pro" approach to invest in younger talent, which monetarily and least has balanced to books.
For a very brief period all seemed possible, the right manager, the right players, all came together at the right time to deliver a piece of club history. But its gone now. Back to survival strategy and rebuilding.
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A sobering post!
It does raise the question - is the Premier League really worth the grief it creates for clubs like ours? It feels as though it's all hype, smoke & mirrors and we're somehow supposed to be grateful for being allowed to sit at the kid's table and scouting players for the big boys isn't much of a future.
It might be defeatist or just sour grapes but if all we can realistically hope for is a top 8 -ish finish then would not being in the self styled Best League in the World really be that bad?
As the saying goes we're running as fast as we can to stay in the same place and it's hard to see that changing.
 
park the bus said:
Ah the old adage about one bad apple, how true.
In the meantime it might be worth looking at the trees and the wood, to see if a clearer picture can be found.
2024, Palace heading towards the relegation zone under Roy Hodgson, despite having excellent potential in the squad. In a remarkable turnaround, Hodgson is taken ill and seemingly from nowhere Glasner steps in as the new manager, to which the players respond and the team romp home for the remainder of the season. The star player is undoubtedly Michael Olise, and Palace fans must have been looking forward to the new season. Alas Olise is sold to German giants Bayern Munich, signalling a trend that continues to this day, particularly after the club has its best ever season (after a poor start) winning two domestic trophies and qualifying for European competition. Look out! Here come the sharks! Palace's success is noted by the "elite" clubs and FA cup goal scorer Eze is off to Arsenal for a handsome sum, star England centre half Guehi goes to Manchester City after being coveted by Liverpool, and goal machine Mateta says he wants out, echoing his manager's words, who had announced his departure and who would not be renewing his contract. at the of the season.
Chairman Steve Parish has never seen such a large amount from a season's sales, he's likely over the moon, as building a new stand isn't getting any cheaper.
What does it all mean? Palace sold its 3 best players in Olise, Eze and Guehi. Mateta is sure to follow. The manager is leaving, quite possibly sooner rather than later. The side looks rudderless and the squad lacks depth. The league position has reverted to the days of Hodgson and doesn't look like improving any time soon.
Talk of Palace being a selling club is misplaced, up until recently the club had only sold Bolasie and AWB for decent money. Only in this latest phase has the club moved away from the "seasoned pro" approach to invest in younger talent, which monetarily and least has balanced to books.
For a very brief period all seemed possible, the right manager, the right players, all came together at the right time to deliver a piece of club history. But its gone now. Back to survival strategy and rebuilding.
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Whilst i agree with your post in the main i still hold out the hope that the next manager might be even better,we do not know yet. The King is dead ,long live the King, Parish is a decent enough CEO but we need the next one to be more pro active and work very closely with the new manager so no cracks suddenly open up that disrupt the club.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
A sobering post!
It does raise the question - is the Premier League really worth the grief it creates for clubs like ours? It feels as though it's all hype, smoke & mirrors and we're somehow supposed to be grateful for being allowed to sit at the kid's table and scouting players for the big boys isn't much of a future.
It might be defeatist or just sour grapes but if all we can realistically hope for is a top 8 -ish finish then would not being in the self styled Best League in the World really be that bad?
As the saying goes we're running as fast as we can to stay in the same place and it's hard to see that changing.
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I wanted there to be a Super League so that all the big clubs would please f*** off and play each other four times a year. Like the Scottish League but more boring.
Leave real football clubs to it. Let the greedy players want to go there. Maybe have a wage cap in our new Premier League. Maybe have a ticket price ceiling. I can but dream I guess. It would be f***ing great to get rid of Man City, Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea maybe Liverpool. Although I have some respect for Liverpool. As they always treat us well in general.
 
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