Where is Parish?

For those harping on about this happening before with Glasner at previous Clubs, so it must be him that’s to blame, remember it’s also happened here to Parish under multiple previous Manager’s.

Tony Pulis is the most famous but I think everyone from Big Sam to Roy have slated the transfer dealings and slowness of the Board at some point.

This has always been after achieving an impossible task and doing something huge for the Club like saving us from relegation.

Parish simply does not learn. He’s like a goldfish. We are odds on to get relegated, a qualified competent Manager comes in and saves us in style despite only having 14 players to choose from. Then Parish gets to the next window and thinks “hmm, if they achieved the impossible with only 14 players, maybe they can achieve it with 12 and I can sell our 2 best and not replace them”.
Very good point, though if we are achieving impossible tasks the Chairman hires the managers and deserves both the credit and criticism as much as they do. Of course managers want more money to spend, who wouldn’t, that doesn’t mean we have it.

Parish is by far our most successful Chairman in history by any measure. Did he learn from previous managers? The outcome was consistently staying in the Prem longer than any of our peers, eventually getting Glasner, the FA Cup, Community Shield and getting into Europe, for all the good and bad that has brought, I’d still take that over a Big Sam spending spree.

He needs to make a damn statement though, 100%.
 
As a club, we pride ourselves on unity and togetherness, as beautifully illustrated by the wonderful 2025.

Easy to do when things are going well, though. Anyone's true character is demonstrated when things are tough.

Where is the 'club statement'? The website seems to have its fingers in its ears, shouting 'la-la-la, can't hear you', suggesting they have been embargoed, or worse, blindsided.

Shouldn't Parish be reassuring everyone that a plan is already in place, transfers are incoming, and all is well?

While it's gutting that Glasner didn't want to stay, I don't begrudge his ambition. Guehi had clearly outgrown us, but now Mateta wants out, too? Why is that? I don't see it happening at any other mid-table club, certainly not one on the up, as we recently were.

Is it just a coincidence or a greater malaise? The core of the cup-winning team could all be gone, and yet the club says nothing.

This does not fill me with confidence and certainly does not demonstrate the unity and togetherness that are the hallmarks of our great club, and that OG enhanced so well.

Come on Steve

There's nothing to make a statement on until there is actual business news to communicate. Glasner not signing a new contract is not business news. Him agreeing a new contract would have been. Him leaving by mutual consent will be (and will probably happen and be announced soon). Appointment of new manager will be. If clubs (or any business) feel obliged to make a statement on every ebb and turn they won't get any of the actual work done.
 
You are completely ignoring ffp or whatever it’s called now. Newcastle are the richest club in the league but cannot spend on new players, we are in exactly the same position with our billionaire owners.

My gripe at the club is that when we do reach the end of a cycle of expenditure and can spend some money, we spend large fees on players like Pino, Nketiah, Esse, Canvot and Johnson. I don’t see our expenditure as offering good value for money, but maybe the above 5 will get better under a different manager.
And this is a better gripe than vague ‘lack of ambition’. We have spent some money there, some may yet pay off but have not done so yet in the way the signings that preceded them did (Wharton and Munoz most recently but the likes of Hendo, Eze and Olise before).

To be fair LaCroix and Kamada come in the middle of that first list and have faired better, but those were clearly Glasner signings. It is difficult to tell who chose the others you listed with Dougie going part way through and not knowing Glasner’s full involvement.
 
There's nothing to make a statement on until there is actual business news to communicate. Glasner not signing a new contract is not business news. Him agreeing a new contract would have been. Him leaving by mutual consent will be (and will probably happen and be announced soon). Appointment of new manager will be. If clubs (or any business) feel obliged to make a statement on every ebb and turn they won't get any of the actual work.
Respectfully, I don’t agree with this personally. If a CEO announces he is leaving in six months I would expect the Board to make some sort of a holding statement about recruitment process and timescales. Glasner doesn’t care about Palace post June, we need to hear from someone that does.
 
And this is a better gripe than vague ‘lack of ambition’. We have spent some money there, some may yet pay off but have not done so yet in the way the signings that preceded them did (Wharton and Munoz most recently but the likes of Hendo, Eze and Olise before).

To be fair LaCroix and Kamada come in the middle of that first list and have faired better, but those were clearly Glasner signings. It is difficult to tell who chose the others you listed with Dougie going part way through and not knowing Glasner’s full involvement.
Lacroix was a like for like replacement, a strong defender for a strong defender, in fact we did fantastic out of that deal as Lacroix is both younger and a better defender than Andersen but without perhaps the range of passing. Sarr was our Olise replacement and has done really well and fitted in perfectly down that side.

Canvot is young and inexperienced and rather like Chalobah, has a mistake in him. One for the future perhaps but expensive for a youngster.

The issue I have which is why I left Lacroix/Sarr out of that list is that our like for like replacement for Eze, our talisman, our Zaha, was Pino. Now he may turn into a decent player for us, but a replacement for Eze, no way.

It’s like Esse, I don’t get where he fits into the picture. Again he might turn into a decent player but I don’t see it at present.

Nketiah was supposed to be our no 1 striker but he is now just a reserve primarily because his hold up play isn’t good enough. Thats a lot of money for a reserve striker.

As for Johnson, I have absolutely no idea why we have bought him. He is not better than Sarr who has a great working relationship with Munoz so unless they plan on moving Sarr to the left and dropping our star buy Pino completely (which seems the likely course), then our buying looks very muddled.

Kamada is a bit different as he was a free agent and costs us expensive wages but no wasted fee. I reckon he will likely follow Glasner wherever he goes anyway.

Sosa (should be called Soso as that sums him up), the least said the better but he does at least provide specialist cover on the left.

Uche is another who I have no idea why we took him on. He reminds me a bit of a younger Schlupp, powerful, quick but not effective enough to maintain a permanent spot. Thankfully, as it’s a loan with a game dependent purchase clause, no money wasted here yet.

In short, since Dougie has moved on and perhaps for a while whilst he was with us I’ve been rather underwhelmed by a substantial part of our expenditure.

Whatever money we get for Guehi must be used to bring in a quality Centre Half. Riad will be like a new signing but let’s hope that his long term injuries have not destroyed his career before it starts with us.
 
It appears Lanzo that your colours nailed to the mast early doors about OG have indeed not faded 👍
I actually agree. In my eyes, Parish is the one that always wants the best for Palace. Yes he’s pragmatic in doing so, but I do truly believe he has the right intentions. Love Oli for what he’s done for our club, will go down as an immortal when time heals this situation and we look back so fondly on him but I’m backing Parish here all the way.
 
Lacroix was a like for like replacement, a strong defender for a strong defender, in fact we did fantastic out of that deal as Lacroix is both younger and a better defender than Andersen but without perhaps the range of passing. Sarr was our Olise replacement and has done really well and fitted in perfectly down that side.

Canvot is young and inexperienced and rather like Chalobah, has a mistake in him. One for the future perhaps but expensive for a youngster.

The issue I have which is why I left Lacroix/Sarr out of that list is that our like for like replacement for Eze, our talisman, our Zaha, was Pino. Now he may turn into a decent player for us, but a replacement for Eze, no way.

It’s like Esse, I don’t get where he fits into the picture. Again he might turn into a decent player but I don’t see it at present.

Nketiah was supposed to be our no 1 striker but he is now just a reserve primarily because his hold up play isn’t good enough. Thats a lot of money for a reserve striker.

As for Johnson, I have absolutely no idea why we have bought him. He is not better than Sarr who has a great working relationship with Munoz so unless they plan on moving Sarr to the left and dropping our star buy Pino completely (which seems the likely course), then our buying looks very muddled.

Kamada is a bit different as he was a free agent and costs us expensive wages but no wasted fee. I reckon he will likely follow Glasner wherever he goes anyway.

Sosa (should be called Soso as that sums him up), the least said the better but he does at least provide specialist cover on the left.

Uche is another who I have no idea why we took him on. He reminds me a bit of a younger Schlupp, powerful, quick but not effective enough to maintain a permanent spot. Thankfully, as it’s a loan with a game dependent purchase clause, no money wasted here yet.

In short, since Dougie has moved on and perhaps for a while whilst he was with us I’ve been rather underwhelmed by a substantial part of our expenditure.

Whatever money we get for Guehi must be used to bring in a quality Centre Half. Riad will be like a new signing but let’s hope that his long term injuries have not destroyed his career before it starts with us.
With Johnson it was presumably his claimed versatility which appealed although whether he can actually be effective as LW, RW, LM,CM,RM & CF has yet to be proven. Not many can do all of them and if they could we couldn't afford them. Perhaps we'll have a better idea when Sarr and Munoz are back. At the moment he needs to convert his own passes which is a challenge no matter how quick he might be.
Sosa, so far, hasn't looked good enough as a back up utility player - a second rate Schluppie.
 
Lacroix was a like for like replacement, a strong defender for a strong defender, in fact we did fantastic out of that deal as Lacroix is both younger and a better defender than Andersen but without perhaps the range of passing. Sarr was our Olise replacement and has done really well and fitted in perfectly down that side.

Canvot is young and inexperienced and rather like Chalobah, has a mistake in him. One for the future perhaps but expensive for a youngster.

The issue I have which is why I left Lacroix/Sarr out of that list is that our like for like replacement for Eze, our talisman, our Zaha, was Pino. Now he may turn into a decent player for us, but a replacement for Eze, no way.

It’s like Esse, I don’t get where he fits into the picture. Again he might turn into a decent player but I don’t see it at present.

Nketiah was supposed to be our no 1 striker but he is now just a reserve primarily because his hold up play isn’t good enough. Thats a lot of money for a reserve striker.

As for Johnson, I have absolutely no idea why we have bought him. He is not better than Sarr who has a great working relationship with Munoz so unless they plan on moving Sarr to the left and dropping our star buy Pino completely (which seems the likely course), then our buying looks very muddled.

Kamada is a bit different as he was a free agent and costs us expensive wages but no wasted fee. I reckon he will likely follow Glasner wherever he goes anyway.

Sosa (should be called Soso as that sums him up), the least said the better but he does at least provide specialist cover on the left.

Uche is another who I have no idea why we took him on. He reminds me a bit of a younger Schlupp, powerful, quick but not effective enough to maintain a permanent spot. Thankfully, as it’s a loan with a game dependent purchase clause, no money wasted here yet.

In short, since Dougie has moved on and perhaps for a while whilst he was with us I’ve been rather underwhelmed by a substantial part of our expenditure.

Whatever money we get for Guehi must be used to bring in a quality Centre Half. Riad will be like a new signing but let’s hope that his long term injuries have not destroyed his career before it starts with us.
Good point, I’d forgotten about Sarr, excellent signing. I’m not against the signing of Johnson. Sarr, Pino and him to cover two positions is ambitious and the drop off to Kamada or decency in that position the moment we have an injury or need to rotate is huge.

I think Pino is a very good player, he has had a lot to adjust to in a new league and the system. He just isn’t a hit the ground running replacement for Eze, because we cannot afford one of those. He’ll never be the same as Eze but has had comparable success/promise with Eze at that age.

Similarly at a younger age Canvot looks like he has potential but even if he achieves that fully (and then some) he is about six years away from being a replacement for Guehi, probably our best ever defender.
 
My gripe at the club is that when we do reach the end of a cycle of expenditure and can spend some money, we spend large fees on players like Pino, Nketiah, Esse, Canvot and Johnson. I don’t see our expenditure as offering good value for money, but maybe the above 5 will get better under a different manager.
At the time of signing each of those players I was happy with the deals, so any criticism would only be in hindsight. I think this is one area where I won’t leap to Oli’s defense, particularly with Nketiah, Esse, and Canvot, have they really had an opportunity to prove they were good signings?

Nketiah when he has played I’ve been happy with. At the end of last year he looked fantastic. I know he’s had injuries, but when he has been fit he hasn’t had a good crack. Meanwhile Mateta has also had injuries and I’m convinced he never fully recovered from the last one. For that reason I do wish Mateta had been given more rest and the likes of Nketiah and Uche had been used more.

You are completely ignoring ffp or whatever it’s called now. Newcastle are the richest club in the league but cannot spend on new players, we are in exactly the same position with our billionaire owners.
Yes, you have a point here, and that is what frustrates me so much about FFP, as I’ve touched on in other threads.

Maybe the three year rule is playing more of a part than I’m accounting for, it definitely seems to me that we would be in a position to push on more than we have. The fact that Oli feels the way he does says to me I’m not wholly wrong in that though.

Then there are two ways of looking at it. Those artificial rules as they exist today will always hamper clubs like us who are on a mostly upward trajectory.

So do you just ignore them, as you rightly state that Villa and Forest among others have, and rightly pay the penalty when it comes, or do you burrow into a tailwind of negative investment shrinking any prospect of growth and therefore only going on to produce even less headroom as each season passes?

Villa have definitely got things right as far as I see it, and despite current form I do feel Forest have too (as much as I hate their mobster-in-chief for getting us demoted in Europe.).

The issues that Forest are having I would put less on the financial strategy which has been successful, and more on the personal dispute between Nuno and Marinakis that set off a chain of events. Even still, in a broader picture they started the project in League One and grew at a much faster rate than us. Even if they end up dropping down which I don’t think they’re going to, it wouldn’t be for a long time and the lesson to be taken would be don’t upset a successful coach…
 
Apparently Brennan Johnson held talks with OG before he signed. I'd love to knowwhat was said.

I'm guessing it wasn't "Well Brennan, I'm fvcking right off out of it, claiming the board haven't backed me just for the sheer audacity of it after dropping £35m on you, not to mention a whole host of other b0llocks that will hopefully deflect the blame on me for a diabolical dereliction of duty at Macclesfield, and possibly elsewhere. While im still here, as long as you're not on the bench, you'll be fine... so, you know, come and join us. It'll be a giggle."
 
He has a coaching setup of several that came with him who would also presumably be sacked and they have done nothing to deserve it
One solution, not saying I favour it, but given where we find ourselves now, if all the current coaching staff were willing to stay on post-Oli, we could promote any one of Brunmayer, McCarthy, or Pogatetz to the top job, and hire only one more first-team coach who fills the spot they vacated.

From the Parish point of view it would solve the problem of Oli’s discontent, put some certainty back into the club and the players without further rocking the boat too much, and hopefully allow us to focus on going as far as possible in the two competitions we still have remaining.
 

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