We need to be realistic, last season is blinding us

Good original post.

My only observation being that I don’t believe the £30M (ish) bids for Mateta were anything like good enough in respect of terms. Not enough up front, too many add-ons etc.

Mind you Glasner said the club hadn’t actually received any bids whatsoever for Mateta…so who knows?
 
Yes, by all means be realistic but it's been a disappointing season however you look at it.
The disappointment of missing out on Europa, the sale of our best players in Guehi and Eze, the underwhelming signings, the terrible home form, the uninspiring performances in Europe ,the apparent lack of direction and strategy (unless I'm missing something).

It looks like another rebuild may be necessary in summer with a number of outgoings, including the manager.

We probably did get a bit carried away with the cup win, the first appearances in Europe and the long unbeaten run, but if you can't enjoy the success when it comes why support a club.

I'll miss Glasner because he allowed fans to dream, to see every game as winnable, to strive and compete with the utmost confidence.
He hasn't been the sort of manager to happily accept a narrow defeat to a top club and see it as some sort of a result - and we've had a few of them.
 
Disaffected Manager,disaffected players, a DoF who is duff, other teams turning the tide and suddenly winning only eight points off the relegation places. Hysteria set in a few weeks ago and Palace feed it every week!
Well said!
 
This is a post copied from BBS, which hits the nail squarely on the head regarding our situation.

One of the hardest truths to accept in modern football is that unexpected glory isn’t always a launchpad. For clubs like Palace, it’s often a stress test.

Winning the FA Cup feels like it should be the beginning of something bigger, but in today’s game that’s rarely how it plays out for clubs outside the elite. Leicester are usually held up as the dream scenario, but their story actually underlines the risk rather than the reward.

Leicester didn’t just win the league and ride off into sustained success. Their title season blew apart their cost base, inflated expectations, and set off a cycle of spending and recruitment designed to “stay at the table” rather than consolidate safely. They won an FA Cup later, played in Europe, and still ended up relegated. Their moment of greatness didn’t insulate them from reality, it accelerated the pressures that eventually caught up with them.

That’s the modern paradox. Success doesn’t suddenly make a club rich enough to behave like a superpower. It makes you expensive without making you secure. Revenues rise a bit, wages rise a lot, and every transfer miss becomes more damaging. At the same time, the players who delivered the success get picked off by bigger clubs, often leaving you trying to replace irreplaceable chemistry with pricier, riskier alternatives.

For a club like Palace, that creates a brutal crossroads. Push too hard to capitalise and you risk destabilising the entire operation. Pull back and you’re accused of lacking ambition or wasting the moment. Fan expectations rise faster than the club’s actual capacity to meet them.

That’s where Parish’s current approach makes sense, even if it’s deeply uncomfortable. Sticking to the same recruitment strategy that’s been used over the past few years, focusing on value, character, and sustainability rather than chasing the moment, is probably the best defence against falling into that trap. It’s an attempt to absorb success without letting it fundamentally change the club’s risk profile.

But it’s still fraught with danger. Because maintaining discipline after glory is hard. The pressure to “do more” is relentless, and the margin for error is thin. You can make the right decision in principle and still suffer for it in practice.

It’s the Icarus problem. You fly higher than you ever have before and for a brief moment everything feels within reach. But the sun doesn’t care how special the flight felt. Without restraint, the wings start to melt, not immediately, but gradually, until gravity does the rest.

So moments like an FA Cup win aren’t about becoming something else overnight. They’re about navigating the aftermath without losing the fundamentals that keep the club alive. For Palace, progress has always been about survival first, growth second, and glory as a rare and precious by-product.

In modern football, achieving the dream is only half the challenge. The harder part is surviving what comes after it. I think virtually everyone has said at some point that they’d take an FA Cup win if it meant relegation as a trade off. Being in the PL is incredibly important but there’s nothing permanent or invincible about it. But your name on the cup is for all eternity. Now I am not saying that we should make that trade and still think we’ll survive this season etc BUT it’s a signpost of how the goalposts shift. When we were promoted the goal of goals was ‘if we can stay in this league and maybe win a trophy then we really cannot ask for anymore than that as we will have something to show for it’. That mission has been achieved yet it feels like some sort of failure to many.

Thats a shift in expectations rather than a necessary failure of the club.
 
To be fair the 2 point gap is meaningless , it's where we are now. 2 points in 8 games is relegation form.
Of OG stays then I honestly don’t see us picking up any more wins under his tenure. The confidence is shot, the players aren’t playing and the system isn’t working. He has proven himself incapable of motivating the players or changing anything to get us performing better.

Luckily I suspect his tenure will last only two more games with defeats at Forest and Brighton seeing him fired.
 
If Munoz and Sarr play in enough matches.....Palace will pick up points.

We are a mid table side and things have gone badly but will improve with average luck.

The problem comes with replacing our stars at the end of the season.
 
Having read that post copied from the BBS has changed my thinking, it absolutely hits the nail. I think we have to stick with OG and trust him to get us out of this situation.
 
Europe is confection.

The league is all that really matters.

Europe can overstretch a team without the resources for a big high quality squad. We have seen this and it's been seen many times before.

It can end up being fool's gold......and the money earned isn't even that important.
 
Europe is confection.

The league is all that really matters.

Europe can overstretch a team without the resources for a big high quality squad. We have seen this and it's been seen many times before.

It can end up being fool's gold......and the money earned isn't even that important.

I'm happy to get back in our lane for a few seasons now. Nice mid table stress free seasons and the odd cup run will do me just fine.
 
I'm happy to get back in our lane for a few seasons now. Nice mid table stress free seasons and the odd cup run will do me just fine.

Exactly the difference in our team's performance due to the rush of games really showed.

Can't help feeling that until we get that bigger stadium we need to be careful about the expectations of being a bigger team.....unless the revenue is there the potential for landmines is obvious.
 
On 19th May 2024, we finished the season with the most attractive attacking run that I have ever seen at Palace. 19 points from 7 games with 21 goals for and four against.
The starting lineup was
Olise
Andersen
Eze
Guehi
Mateta
Munoz
Wharton
Henderson
Mitchell
Richards
Clyne
There is little doubt in my mind that the first eight could be starters for a Champions League team
Since then, the first four have left, Mateta is on the verge of departing and there has been a lot of talk about Munoz and Wharton moving on in the summer. The only replacements that bear comparison have been Lacroix and Sarr - and he is not the same class as Olise or Eze
Whatever the reasons, it is an enormous drop off in quality in such a short time. Even if we survive this season, we are likely to be heavy favourites for the drop next year
 

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