War in Ukraine

chris123 said:
Russia's ability to finance the war depends largely on oil and gas income. Oil in particular is in glut territory so any recovery is unlikely. Russian banks lending for the war effort with no obvious default risk management. A collapsing economy may help bring about a Russian decision to stop.
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Do you really believe that?
We've heard that narrative for a long time now. But it seems that the sanctions have hit European economies far harder than Russia's.
It's a big world out there, and there are a lot of countries and regions to trade with across Asia, Africa and South America.
Europe's inflated idea of its own international importance is a joke nowadays.
 
McAhuna said:
Do you really believe that?
We've heard that narrative for a long time now. But it seems that the sanctions have hit European economies far harder than Russia's.
It's a big world out there, and there are a lot of countries and regions to trade with across Asia, Africa and South America.
Europe's inflated idea of its own international importance is a joke nowadays.
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I was in Georgia last year there is a highway that runs from Russia to China via Iran and various other countries. There were thousands of lorries . It's why Russia bullies Georgia (elections) as this is one of their main trade routes.
 
McAhuna said:
Do you really believe that?
We've heard that narrative for a long time now. But it seems that the sanctions have hit European economies far harder than Russia's.
It's a big world out there, and there are a lot of countries and regions to trade with across Asia, Africa and South America.
Europe's inflated idea of its own international importance is a joke nowadays.
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Low oil price over an extended period is my point.
 
McAhuna said:
Do you really believe that?
We've heard that narrative for a long time now. But it seems that the sanctions have hit European economies far harder than Russia's.
It's a big world out there, and there are a lot of countries and regions to trade with across Asia, Africa and South America.
Europe's inflated idea of its own international importance is a joke nowadays.
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All I know is that there are plenty of video's on You Tube about life in Russia. And it looks fantastic. I genuinely get why people might consider moving over there. The cities are clean, they look safe, the shops are crammed with every brand under the sun you could wish for.

Sanctions are a joke. Europe has literally shot itself in the foot. And for what? Because it is clear that the powers that be are still desperately trying to get us to go with war with Russia. That much is blindingly obvious. And to what end?

Russia provided Europe with cheap gas. Now it's almost all imported from the US and the Middle East (look how Germany quickly built ports to take in LNG). That is the real story behind all of this. How Europe is now dependent on nations such Qatar and the UAE.

The lies we are told about this war are simply staggering. And those who make the loudest noise about opposing Russia are the same twats who most loudly proclaim themselves as the supporters of the European project. Which is being f***ed over big time thanks to the consequences of this Russophobia.
 
Spindle said:
Where's the Epstein bit?

It's nothing amazing to have biolabs, I expect most countries outside of Africa do
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Except they lied about it continually.....and that while I might agree with you....it's still against the law.

Called us conspiracy theorists and it turned out to be true.

What's most annoying are the normies who believed them and ridiculed us instead.

We have a right to be pissed off at both them and the state that lied.
 
Matov said:
All I know is that there are plenty of video's on You Tube about life in Russia. And it looks fantastic. I genuinely get why people might consider moving over there. The cities are clean, they look safe, the shops are crammed with every brand under the sun you could wish for.

Sanctions are a joke. Europe has literally shot itself in the foot. And for what? Because it is clear that the powers that be are still desperately trying to get us to go with war with Russia. That much is blindingly obvious. And to what end?

Russia provided Europe with cheap gas. Now it's almost all imported from the US and the Middle East (look how Germany quickly built ports to take in LNG). That is the real story behind all of this. How Europe is now dependent on nations such Qatar and the UAE.

The lies we are told about this war are simply staggering. And those who make the loudest noise about opposing Russia are the same twats who most loudly proclaim themselves as the supporters of the European project. Which is being f***ed over big time thanks to the consequences of this Russophobia.
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Yep, it's been the extent of the lying that's the worst aspect for me.

I've lost any remaining faith I had that the people in charge deserve their positions.

None of their decisions have improved our position and indeed have cost us dearly.
 
Matov said:
All I know is that there are plenty of video's on You Tube about life in Russia. And it looks fantastic. I genuinely get why people might consider moving over there. The cities are clean, they look safe, the shops are crammed with every brand under the sun you could wish for.

Sanctions are a joke. Europe has literally shot itself in the foot. And for what? Because it is clear that the powers that be are still desperately trying to get us to go with war with Russia. That much is blindingly obvious. And to what end?

Russia provided Europe with cheap gas. Now it's almost all imported from the US and the Middle East (look how Germany quickly built ports to take in LNG). That is the real story behind all of this. How Europe is now dependent on nations such Qatar and the UAE.

The lies we are told about this war are simply staggering. And those who make the loudest noise about opposing Russia are the same twats who most loudly proclaim themselves as the supporters of the European project. Which is being f***ed over big time thanks to the consequences of this Russophobia.
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I mostly agree with you, but there are also a fair few videos out there from Brits who made the leap and moved over there and now seriously regret it. They are fighting a war for their own survival. People are a resource and they will use that resource to win.
Not sure I blame them in the circumstances, but people need to be aware of what they might be letting themselves in for.
 
Stirlingsays said:
What's most annoying are the normies who believed them and ridiculed us instead.

We have a right to be pissed off at both them and the state that lied.
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Yeah. I am not sure those c**** can ever be forgiven, especially the ones who are still doing it in 2026.

But the ridicule, abuse and worse (people lost jobs and families) we got is nothing really.
Nothing compared to what the real victims suffered. The normies better start praying that those guys and girls are forgiving and merciful.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Except they lied about it continually.....and that while I might agree with you....it's still against the law.

Called us conspiracy theorists and it turned out to be true.

What's most annoying are the normies who believed them and ridiculed us instead.

We have a right to be pissed off at both them and the state that lied.
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I don't care, this bloke has brought up these theories for bloody everything. He's a loon, must have no friends who aren't loons, and if missus hasn't walked out with him going on about it at dinner then she soon will.

These docs are 4 years before invasion, colour me surprised that there are businessmen working with countries like Ukraine who have plenty of corrupt ways to extract even more money.

As for Matov about how great Russian life is, of he's so sure then he can move there, easily. Putin offers citizenship for westerners, plus a job and somewhere to live. Go for it.
 
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