War in Ukraine

[Stirlingsays]

Have you considered how much Europe does fund Putin? I would think this is more panto but for higher ups to gawk at. Wouldn't you? That is basically every war isn't it?
The deal has already been done. I think you probably can see that too. In that case, all that's left is the fat lady. You're right in many ways but there's more than a few billion in arms too.
Everything needs testing and pushing and waiting and seeing. Remember the Wagner group for example? Reports of North Koreans? Russia and China? There's always more. Yet we only see our European stuff. You can't fully blame us as we're obviously superior - aren't we?

Europe indirectly fund Putin and have to if they wish to keep the lights on.....capacity in the market would mean that prices would go sky high, and just as with Europe's leaders being dishonest with their opinion on Putin's willingness to attack Europe (as seen in their unwillingness to increase defence budgets beyond the minimal) they are unwilling to create a much more noticable cost to this war in their own countries.

Europe's whole play was in getting the US to commit in the war....Same as Ukraine.

It's been so frigging high risk and stupid in my opinion but these clowns are chancers and can't take responsibility for their misplaced group think.

The war has been mostly about lying....but as you imply- nothing changes there.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Hardly genius. Look at the nations that didn't join? All of them invaded by Russia or sub states of Russia with puppet dictators in charge.

Do you really think that Putin would've stayed inside his borders if NATO hadn't have expanded? Get real.

If you read my previous posts I've covered this point.

Putin was very very clear on Ukraine, long before long before 2014.

 

[Spindle]

Wait. You trust Wikipedia?
The George Soros and Bill Gates funded Wikipedia? What would your profile pic hero say about that? lol
The same George Soros who funds the NGOs to flood the UK with an invading dingy army?

You're betraying the people who fought two world wars with us as our allies, and instead siding with Nazis, Islamists and the worst of the worst .....because Ursula von der Leyen and the BBC told you to.

Seems like you're the traitor sunshine.

Classic. Wiki my friend unless it disagree. Go edit it.

You're pro Russia ahead of your own nation. I'm writing this as I go through security barriers to my defence job

I think we know who is on the right side of our nation

 

[Spindle]

Why wouldn't people trust the EU and the BBC, and just give these people all our money and weapons?
It's so hard to fathom 😏
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Lol tin foil hat stuff.

 

[Spindle]

It's a false dialectic though, don't you think?

We're not being asked to fund Putin.

I think it's logical to ask much more critical questions of the people we are be asked to fund, especially when it appears they have a lot of blood on their hands and are almost certainly not telling the truth.

In these circumstances, I'd rather not fund either side. I'd rather not get involved. I'd rather not get swept along by a false patriotism that just leads to more young European conscripts getting blown apart on a freezing wasteland. All while the fat-cats of the trillion dollar arms industry get ever richer.

I'd rather there was a peace treaty as soon as possible.

Loving Putin and hating Ukraine because you're a Pacifist. That's FUBAR.

 

[Spindle]

Starmer agreed to fund Ukraine for the next 100 years.

But yes, all sides are using Ukraine as a military testing ground. Especially those who don't need to be involved and have no skin in the game, like North Korea and the UK.

I thought you didn't believe the UK government. Now you are claiming things as true, in this case a diplomatic soundbite. 🤣

 

[McAhuna]

I thought you didn't believe the UK government. Now you are claiming things as true, in this case a diplomatic soundbite. 🤣

I said "Starmer agreed" to fund them for 100 years. Clearly none of us have any way of confirming that the agreed payments will be paid in the year 2124 or not.

Ironically, it is you who is the one who is saying that you don't believe the government, saying it was just a "diplomatic soundbite" and not a real promise
You are tying yourself up in knots lad.

 

[McAhuna]

Classic. Wiki my friend unless it disagree. Go edit it.

You're pro Russia ahead of your own nation. I'm writing this as I go through security barriers to my defence job

I think we know who is on the right side of our nation

Imagine being stuck in a freezing trench fighting for Kier Starmer and Ursula von der Leyen.
With King Charles, Camilla and Andrew egging support from the Palace 4,000 miles away.

...And Spindle's tech for protection, designed when he took a 10 min break from posting on HOL.

I am surprised our lads are not breaking through the barriers to sign up at the recruitment station.

 

[Spindle]

I said "Starmer agreed" to fund them for 100 years. Clearly none of us have any way of confirming that the agreed payments will be paid in the year 2124 or not.

Ironically, it is you who is the one who is saying that you don't believe the government, saying it was just a "diplomatic soundbite" and not a real promise
You are tying yourself up in knots lad.

I've said no such thing, I know who's side I'm on. From thousands of miles from Moscow you are banging his drum on account of a few Facebook groups and Twitter bots that you trust.

 

[Spindle]

Imagine being stuck in a freezing trench fighting for Kier Starmer and Ursula von der Leyen.
With King Charles, Camilla and Andrew egging support from the Palace 4,000 miles away.

...And Spindle's tech for protection, designed when he took a 10 min break from posting on HOL.

I am surprised our lads are not breaking through the barriers to sign up at the recruitment station.

Thank god there are so few of your type. You talk of serfdom but quite happy to fold in the face of those who threaten us.