War in Ukraine

[Stirlingsays]

Certainly there was a disgraceful lack of action by the police and authorities and now of course they are now all trying to cover their arses, so yes, that can be loosely described as a cover up. 'Institutional' is a much misused word these days open to many meanings.

While I do believe there are deep state conspiracies it's also true that sometimes tragedy happens......No one was pushing the iceberg into the Titanic's path.

From what I heard her injuries were unsurvivable regardless of the response time...how true that is I don't know, but when you look into it the rescue team seem to have gone all out to save her....from all accounts she would have died sooner instead of three hours later.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Yes, but do you think that the crash was a deliberate part of the conspiracy?

When a woman formally of the Royal Family and mother of the future king is a loose cannon, rumoured to be getting engaged to a Muslim and has been prominent in anti landmine campaigns, I think it is reasonable to be suspicious when she dies an unnatural death, given all the other 'problematic' people who have done the same. Not to mention an alleged witness driving a particular car being found dead in said car in a wood.

For me, if you don't even consider the possibility of assassination, then that is rather strange.

 

[georgenorman]

When a woman formally of the Royal Family and mother of the future king is a loose cannon, rumoured to be getting engaged to a Muslim and has been prominent in anti landmine campaigns, I think it is reasonable to be suspicious when she dies an unnatural death, given all the other 'problematic' people who have done the same. Not to mention an alleged witness driving a particular car being found dead in said car in a wood.

For me, if you don't even consider the possibility of assassination, then that is rather strange.

You think the crash was a managed part of the conspiracy?

 

[georgenorman]

I think there is a conspiracy on this thread to stop discussion of the invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

 

[McAhuna]

Yes, but do you think that the crash was a deliberate part of the conspiracy?

The technology exists to interfere with the steering of a vehicle. It's been patented.

It wouldn't have even been the hardest part of the operation.

 

[McAhuna]

I think there is a conspiracy on this thread to stop discussion of the invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

Of which you are a major part 😉

 

[McAhuna]

While I do believe there are deep state conspiracies it's also true that sometimes tragedy happens......No one was pushing the iceberg into the Titanic's path.

From what I heard her injuries were unsurvivable regardless of the response time...how true that is I don't know, but when you look into it the rescue team seem to have gone all out to save her....from all accounts she would have died sooner instead of three hours later.

The first doctor on the scene stated that he thought she would survive
Diana doctor at crash scene thought she would live

 

[Stirlingsays]

I think there is a conspiracy on this thread to stop discussion of the invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

It'll be over in Spring, if not before.

 

[Stirlingsays]

The first doctor on the scene stated that he thought she would survive
Diana doctor at crash scene thought she would live

They certainly tried.....That doctor you refer to didn't have the means to know the extent of her internal injuries. The Ambulance and its team had an impressive amount of equipment.

 

[georgenorman]

The technology exists to interfere with the steering of a vehicle. It's been patented.

It wouldn't have even been the hardest part of the operation.

So they tampered with the steering of car that was not even scheduled to be driven that night hoping that it would result in a crash that would kill Diana. Sounds a sure-fire means of bumping someone off.

 

[McAhuna]

So they tampered with the steering of car that was not even scheduled to be driven that night hoping that it would result in a crash that would kill Diana. Sounds a sure-fire means of bumping someone off.

That's not what I said on at least two counts, but anyway.
You hear what you want to hear, and believe what you want to believe. Makes no difference to me either way.

 

[Spindle]

I would bet that you were in the minority on both Princess Diana and Dr Kelly.

Notice you didn't mention Epstein!
Once one acknowledges the probability that it could be done to even one inconvenient person, the possibilities are endless.

Interesting to see what former Conservative MP Andrew Brigden is saying today.
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Is that the same Andrew Bridgen who is married to a Serbian? That one?

 

[McAhuna]

Is that the same Andrew Bridgen who is married to a Serbian? That one?

I have no idea.

But I have a feeling that the nationality of his wife is going to represent some sort of unforeseen issue for you, and will probably result in you angrily swearing at some point.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Personally I don't think there's going to be a false flag attack in Britain or even a genuine attack.....at least not now.

What I think you are seeing with the ramped up rhetoric on Russia is both the defence and intel/security departments campaign for increased funding. If they can convince enough boomers and old women that old red is coming over the hills to nab their pension and knickers then just maybe Labour will up their money.

It's a bit embarrassing to watch it really....since 2022 we have had talking head upon talking heads from these departments on TV networks talking the most outrageous bollocks.....pretty much all of which turned out to be wrong.

Essentially there to justify the outlay of the government on this losing war.

 

[beak]

Is that the same Andrew Bridgen who is married to a Serbian? That one?

That is not Tory policy at all, I expect the whip to be withdrawn,even though they are down to a handful of M.P.s Disgusting quisling.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

They certainly tried.....That doctor you refer to didn't have the means to know the extent of her internal injuries. The Ambulance and its team had an impressive amount of equipment.

The car collision was contrived at that specific location for a reason.

Diana was killed by activities in the ambulance.

 

[Stirlingsays]

The car collision was contrived at that specific location for a reason.

Diana was killed by activities in the ambulance.

Spicy.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

Western Europe benefits from the war grinding on.
It presents an element of fear and unknown to the populations
It created financial uncertainty for the populations
It distracts from other, more pressing, issues in the domestic political arena.
"oooh, isn't it terrible Ukraine is being invaded.? When will it stop ?"
Distracts from the tens of thousands of invaders landing on UK shores every year.

 

[McAhuna]

Personally I don't think there's going to be a false flag attack in Britain or even a genuine attack.....at least not now.

What I think you are seeing with the ramped up rhetoric on Russia is both the defence and intel/security departments campaign for increased funding. If they can convince enough boomers and old women that old red is coming over the hills to nab their pension and knickers then just maybe Labour will up their money.

It's a bit embarrassing to watch it really....since 2022 we have had talking head upon talking heads from these departments on TV networks talking the most outrageous bollocks.....pretty much all of which turned out to be wrong.

Essentially there to justify the outlay of the government on this losing war.

They're ramping up the rhetoric for some reason.

But it's not working. As your lotus eaters observed, hardly anyone wants to fight for them.

 

[McAhuna]

Western Europe benefits from the war grinding on.
It presents an element of fear and unknown to the populations
It created financial uncertainty for the populations
It distracts from other, more pressing, issues in the domestic political arena.
"oooh, isn't it terrible Ukraine is being invaded.? When will it stop ?"
Distracts from the tens of thousands of invaders landing on UK shores every year.

As George Galloway put it: "The Royal Navy is busy guarding every sea, except our own"