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[Hrolf The Ganger]

I reserve the right to be wrong certainly.

I'm open minded to be convinced otherwise but that's where I am at the moment.

I think I was wrong on JFK.....I think the intel services are still holding back on that as not everything is released and we still have redactions despite initial transparency claims....I tend towards the Hunt deathbed confession holding a lot of water.

As for Epstein.....I'm all in on that one. In fact I think the official narrative from the White House/intel services on Epstein is a crock of brown stuff.

Also, I have my suspicion over the Charlie Kirk murder.

But again, open minded.

It's just recently been confirmed that Kirk sent out text messages the night before he was assassinated saying that he thought he was going to be murdered that day.

So he knew something was up.

People who are a nuisance to American ambitions have died in suspicious circumstances on a regular basis. That is no coincidence.
JFK, Bobby, Monroe, Diana, Kelly, MLK, Malcolm X, plus lots of other less notables I'm sure. Even if one or two were as they seem, that doesn't mean all the others were.

Once you accept that JFK was a down to the deep state, that means they were prepared to do it to anyone. Patsies, MK Ultra, 'suicides,' accidents'. Plenty of options.

Eat your heart out organised crime.

 

[georgenorman]

People who are a nuisance to American ambitions have died in suspicious circumstances on a regular basis. That is no coincidence.
JFK, Bobby, Monroe, Diana, Kelly, MLK, Malcolm X, plus lots of other less notables I'm sure. Even if one or two were as they seem, that doesn't mean all the others were.

Once you accept that JFK was a down to the deep state, that means they were prepared to do it to anyone. Patsies, MK Ultra, 'suicides,' accidents'. Plenty of options.

Eat your heart out organised crime.

Myths and Legends.

 

[silvertop]

Epstein's activities of course have nothing whatsoever to do with the death of Diana.

I have read otherwise.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Have you? What evidence is there that he confessed to anything?

Well, 'deathbed confession' is the meme title for it. He knew he was on the way out with his health but it was two years before his death and while he was very anti Kennedy he only 'confessed' to being a 'bench warmer'.

Hunt wasn't an outsider krank, he was a CIA operative of status in the early sixties and was involved with Watergate.

You want me to link you to the confession?

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Myths and Legends.

I understand that people prefer an easier truth, but it is obvious that Kennedy was killed by at least two gunmen. The evidence is overwhelming for conspiracy. When the President of the USA can be sacrificed, then anyone can.

The truth of these things is not meant to be known. That is the nature of conspiracy. In the end, one can believe whatever they like.

For me, the pattern is obvious. Others prefer to believe the official line.

How is belief in the official line going for you about Pakistani rape gangs?

 

[Stirlingsays]

I have read otherwise.

What on earth could possibly be gained by Epstein types in ending the life of our biggest female Arab fan?

You think the Royal family would be involved in stuff like that?

I'm no fan of the Royals but I consider that a nonsense.

 

[georgenorman]

I understand that people prefer an easier truth, but it is obvious that Kennedy was killed by at least two gunmen. The evidence is overwhelming for conspiracy. When the President of the USA can be sacrificed, then anyone can.

The truth of these things is not meant to be known. That is the nature of conspiracy. In the end, one can believe whatever they like.

For me, the pattern is obvious. Others prefer to believe the official line.

How is belief in the official line going for you about Pakistani rape gangs?

What have the Pakistani rape gangs got to do with the death of JFK?

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

What have the Pakistani rape gangs got to do with the death of JFK?

Cover up.

 

[georgenorman]

Cover up.

By whom?

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

By whom?

Government.

I don't need or wish to convince you of anything. It's your choice to believe what you like.

I suppose that some of us just have a more sceptical and suspicious mind.

All I would ask is, how many 'controversial' people would have to die unnatural deaths before you raised an eyebrow?

 

[McAhuna]

What had Epstein to do with the death of Diana?

Not sure if being serious?

The point was that far more implausible cover-ups/conspiracies of a far greater magnitude, have been demonstrably proven to be true (such as a secret child-sex island visited by Hollywood stars, the Royal Family, US presidents and CEOs of blue-chip companies).

So, I don't think covering up the true cause of death at the scene of car accident would be a significant challenge to them.

 

[silvertop]

What on earth could possibly be gained by Epstein types in ending the life of our biggest female Arab fan?

You think the Royal family would be involved in stuff like that?

I'm no fan of the Royals but I consider that a nonsense.

You may think so. But I have (by way of conclusive corroborative support) my last post on this thread.

😉

 

[McAhuna]

By whom?

Deep state.

 

[georgenorman]

Not sure if being serious?

The point was that far more implausible cover-ups/conspiracies of a far greater magnitude, have been demonstrably proven to be true (such as a secret child-sex island visited by Hollywood stars, the Royal Family, US presidents and CEOs of blue-chip companies).

So, I don't think covering up the true cause of death at the scene of car accident would be a significant challenge to them.

Was Epstein's island secret? How was it covered up as such? So was the actual car crash deliberate and part of the conspiracy, or did the conspirators hear that there had been a crash and rushed over and killed her?

 

[Stirlingsays]

You may think so. But I have (by way of conclusive corroborative support) my last post on this thread.

😉

That's cool.

You don't have to convince me if you can't be bothered.

You can believe something I consider wacky or think something I consider probably true as rubbish. You might be right in both cases.

Everyone nails their flag to something.

 

[Stirlingsays]

What have the Pakistani rape gangs got to do with the death of JFK?

I heard JFK liked Biryani.

That swayed it for me. 😀

 

[McAhuna]

Was Epstein's island secret? How was it covered up as such? So was the actual car crash deliberate and part of the conspiracy, or did the conspirators hear that there had been a crash and rushed over and killed her?

Yep, all things a curious mind like yours should be looking into.

 

[McAhuna]

What have the Pakistani rape gangs got to do with the death of JFK?

Do you believe there was an institutional cover-up of the rape gangs?

 

[georgenorman]

Do you believe there was an institutional cover-up of the rape gangs?

Certainly there was a disgraceful lack of action by the police and authorities and now of course they are now all trying to cover their arses, so yes, that can be loosely described as a cover up. 'Institutional' is a much misused word these days open to many meanings.

 

[georgenorman]

Yep, all things a curious mind like yours should be looking into.

Yes, but do you think that the crash was a deliberate part of the conspiracy?