Villa v Maccabi

[Willo]

There was also a victory in London recently with no women allowed on a park fun run. Liberal societies are too weak to fight this particular religion.

Ban on women in Muslim race 'unacceptable', minister says

Steve Reed said he was "horrified" that women were barred from mosque-run London charity event.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Penge Eagle]

Ban on women in Muslim race 'unacceptable', minister says

Steve Reed said he was "horrified" that women were barred from mosque-run London charity event.

www.bbc.co.uk

"Unacceptable" yet nothing done about it.

 

[Penge Eagle]

How many "four by two" haters on here are with him on this?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980385701918306398

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

It's a salient point as far as I'm concerned.

It's the only reason there is a problem: the activists within the Muslim community threatening the lives of people they don't like.

The football match? Personally I don't see it......Very risky now. Prime candidate for a nutcase(s) with plenty of time to organise.

Will the government make it happen out of principle? We will see.

That’s simply untrue.

I have heard no threats from anyone over this. It could be that the police were aware of some or concerned that there could be, but that’s different. You are making assumptions and stating them as facts.

The police advised the local authority that there were safety concerns. What those were we can only guess. Mine being there were several potential problems. Not that one was the only reason. That’s just another display of prejudice.

 

[Badger11]

"Unacceptable" yet nothing done about it.

They could always cancel their charity licence.

It's my pet hobby horse organisations that claim to be charities and avoid tax.

You would think that there are some basic rules e.g. must not discriminate well if there are the Charity Commission are not enforcing them (another useless watchdog without teeth).

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

How many "four by two" haters on here are with him on this?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980385701918306398

There could still be trouble because of the publicity this has received. Which could spark protests, requiring significant security both for the team and around any UK based supporters determined to make a point.

Playing behind closed doors was always an option. Maybe one that will now be taken.

Why have Macabbi Tel Aviv decided not to accept tickets? I smell a strong whiff of political pressure on them from their government. Trying to frame Israelis as victims is very much part of their tactics at the moment and this has presented them with an opportunity to do so.

Now let’s see if the Netanyahu government suggests that all the money that the fans will save on airfares and hotels is donated to charities providing support to the victims of the war in Gaza and that the time they now have free is spent assisting in the loading of aid trucks.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

"Unacceptable" yet nothing done about it.

That’s not true. It has been referred and is being investigated.

We must await the result of that before determining what has been done about it.

For me this presents an ideal opportunity for the authorities to demonstrate very clearly that neither religious beliefs nor cultural practices can transcend the law.

 

[Penge Eagle]

That’s not true. It has been referred and is being investigated.

We must await the result of that before determining what has been done about it.

For me this presents an ideal opportunity for the authorities to demonstrate very clearly that neither religious beliefs nor cultural practices can transcend the law.

You are so naive.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

As I have previously said, would a local MP raised a petition to have them banned? Would they even have been banned? Whilst I am happy to criticise policing in this country when I feel it is warranted, our police are used to dealing with mobs of football fans. Why not bring in resources from other areas, they did for Epping and even Brighton Palace
True but their teams have been playing in Europe for years, why question it now?

I read the petition, which was actually quite fair, reasoned and balanced. My criticism is of presenting it as a petition for people to sign. Quietly just sending it to the police to express concerns would have avoided the political storm that has erupted. Of course the police are used to handling fans and protests and bring in additional resources from elsewhere, if required. So they must have had significant concerns.

I have long questioned why any team from outside of Europe is invited to participate in any kind of European tournament. It makes no sense.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

And match day stewards told they didn’t have to work if they had concerns 🤔. What concerns could they have? Compared to stewarding PL games and local derbies

Does it matter what they might be? The club were just trying to help and reassure people that they wouldn’t be asked to do things that they felt were a risk. That’s trying to cool things so is sensible.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

There could still be trouble because of the publicity this has received. Which could spark protests, requiring significant security both for the team and around any UK based supporters determined to make a point.

Playing behind closed doors was always an option. Maybe one that will now be taken.

Why have Macabbi Tel Aviv decided not to accept tickets? I smell a strong whiff of political pressure on them from their government. Trying to frame Israelis as victims is very much part of their tactics at the moment and this has presented them with an opportunity to do so.

Now let’s see if the Netanyahu government suggests that all the money that the fans will save on airfares and hotels is donated to charities providing support to the victims of the war in Gaza and that the time they now have free is spent assisting in the loading of aid trucks.

Any evidence for the aroma you're detecting?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Any evidence for the aroma you're detecting?

Around my olfactory glands there is plenty but as they are super sensitive to bs and located in my nasal passage I doubt whether you will pick it up.

Try reading all that’s happened and look at the attempted blame shifting. Especially after the local game in Tel Aviv got cancelled because of fan behaviour.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Around my olfactory glands there is plenty but as they are super sensitive to bs and located in my nasal passage I doubt whether you will pick it up.

Try reading all that’s happened and look at the attempted blame shifting. Especially after the local game in Tel Aviv got cancelled because of fan behaviour.

Try reading this.

You are making assumptions and stating them as facts.

 

[silvertop]

You are so naive.

Are you not saying the same thing?

 

[Stirlingsays]

That’s simply untrue.

I have heard no threats from anyone over this. It could be that the police were aware of some or concerned that there could be, but that’s different. You are making assumptions and stating them as facts.

The police advised the local authority that there were safety concerns. What those were we can only guess. Mine being there were several potential problems. Not that one was the only reason. That’s just another display of prejudice.

I'm using common sense.

You not having any is your problem not mine.

 

[Spiderman]

There could still be trouble because of the publicity this has received. Which could spark protests, requiring significant security both for the team and around any UK based supporters determined to make a point.

Playing behind closed doors was always an option. Maybe one that will now be taken.

Why have Macabbi Tel Aviv decided not to accept tickets? I smell a strong whiff of political pressure on them from their government. Trying to frame Israelis as victims is very much part of their tactics at the moment and this has presented them with an opportunity to do so.

Now let’s see if the Netanyahu government suggests that all the money that the fans will save on airfares and hotels is donated to charities providing support to the victims of the war in Gaza and that the time they now have free is spent assisting in the loading of aid trucks.

Wow! You didn’t actually address the point raised by PE regarding the tweet

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Try reading this.

You are making assumptions and stating them as facts.

The aroma I detect is real enough. To me! I am not assuming it. Nor presenting it as producing anything more factual than that I can detect it.

if your senses are alert to it as well then you will share my conclusions. If not, you won’t.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I'm using common sense.

You not having any is your problem not mine.

Obviously not. You are undeniably using prejudice.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Wow! You didn’t actually address the point raised by PE regarding the tweet

Maybe because it made no sense.

I tried to address the actual issue.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

It's my pet hobby horse organisations that claim to be charities and avoid tax.

NGO's. Non Governmental Organisations. Often.....
- awash with cash
- accountable to nobody but a shadowy elite

- masquerading as benevolent, yet often the opposite.
- try to be a quasi authority on things, Fake Professors giving interviews to journalists on the telly.

- doing and saying the stuff Politicians wouldnt dare do publicly.

- totally undemocratic. The referendum below was a Landslide....in spite of all the journalism and NGO's pushing in the other direction. Having NGO's in your society ? It would be like having Nazi's sitting on your landing-craft for the Normandy beaches.

So, can joe public have a vote on the treatment of Maccabi ? of course its never going to happen. But you see how democracy gets corrupted everyday.