VAR

[beak]

I had the pleasure of meeting 'Edwin Starr' in 'Baileys' in Watford at a Tamla Motown show.
Of course his famous song was "War" - He signed his autograph "Peace".

Yes as i alluded to.

 

[ASCPFC]

I had the pleasure of meeting 'Edwin Starr' in 'Baileys' in Watford at a Tamla Motown show.
Of course his famous song was "War" - He signed his autograph "Peace".

Ismaila's dad?

 

[NEILLO]

I'd like to hear ref watch explain a big giant dick away. They still would somehow.

Especially in womens football

 

[BromleyMonkey]

I had the pleasure of meeting 'Edwin Starr' in 'Baileys' in Watford at a Tamla Motown show.
Of course his famous song was "War" - He signed his autograph "Peace".

Didn’t he used to play in goal for Man United?

 

[mtp1958]

I am in disagreement on this issue.
Marginal decisions would still exist, shifting the focus of any controversy.The debate would centre around a different part of the body and marginal calls would still exist.It would also make it more challenging for Assistants having to adjudicate on the respective positions of feet of defenders and attackers particularly in a crowded penalty area.
Critics have argued that a 'Feet only' offside makes defending almost impossible, forcing teams to play more defensively.

I beg to differ it will allow more chances there already using fine margins which is confusing matters , by using the foot it defines the line , linesman dont flag unless there well offside at the moment odd occasion they flag on a tight decision

 

[mtp1958]

In my humble estimation this would result in even more controversy.

wouldn't in my opinion if it takes longer then its marginal so not a clear and obvious mistake and game restarts quickly

 

[Willo]

Didn’t he used to play in goal for Man United?

Yes Gary Bailey !
His father Roy played for us in the late 40s and mid-50s.

 

[mtp1958]

But that still doesn't remove tight calls just changes it from the toe to the heel .
The elephant in the room for me is deciding the exact timing of when the ball is played . The Villa v Newcastle goal for instance looked offside and likely was .But the still frame used by the BBC to 'prove' their pundits contention that Abraham was "A yard off" showed the ball being played two feet away from the player passing the ball .Ive taken it back a split second to the ball being struck and Abraham still looks off but its a lot tighter than suggested and could be on if the 'Liverpool rules' were applied

My point being whatever system is used , var or no var there will be errors so why use it at all . Refs have sub consciously passed the buck to Var and linesmen have been confused to the point that they may as well not be there

On a lighter note one thing that happened during the game was the return of some of the old classics "The referee's a wan er ", You don't know what you're doing" and "your a b****** ,your a b****** referee"

Happy days

in cricket you get tight calls for no balls but its a clear defining line so no mistakes , football has butchered it to stop play

 

[Willo]

wouldn't in my opinion if it takes longer then its marginal so not a clear and obvious mistake and game restarts quickly

What timeframe would be appropriate for VAR to make a decision? Thirty seconds? One minute?
Where does the time start and end?
Furthermore there could be multiple incidents to review, a handball and an offside and a possible infringement etc etc

I am of the opinion that a time limit could result in even further controversy EG missed interventions and correct on-field decisions being changed.
Is there a worthwhile trade-off between some saved time but more controversy?
Imagine the headlines the first time an error is made because the VAR ran out of time !
I can appreciate why there are calls for a time-limit but when one delves into the minutiae there are consequences.

 

[BromleyMonkey]

Yes Gary Bailey !
His father Roy played for us in the late 40s and mid-50s.

Not Edwin Van Der Starr then? 🤣

 

[Willo]

Not Edwin Van Der Starr then? 🤣

I am just doing a VAR check for confirmation !
🤣 🤣 🤣 👍

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Why let ref make any decisions at all? Just let him keep order and let VAR do it all - pretty much what linesmen do anyway.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

Why let ref make any decisions at all? Just let him keep order and let VAR do it all - pretty much what linesmen do anyway.

I’d stop going.

 

[mtp1958]

What timeframe would be appropriate for VAR to make a decision? Thirty seconds? One minute?
Where does the time start and end?
Furthermore there could be multiple incidents to review, a handball and an offside and a possible infringement etc etc

I am of the opinion that a time limit could result in even further controversy EG missed interventions and correct on-field decisions being changed.
Is there a worthwhile trade-off between some saved time but more controversy?
Imagine the headlines the first time an error is made because the VAR ran out of time !
I can appreciate why there are calls for a time-limit but when one delves into the minutiae there are consequences.

So how far do you go back , We are getting large amounts of VAR added time , the game needs to move quicker not slower , which is what VAR is doing by taking so long over putting decision under a microscope , they need to reset the system and use what keeps the game moving, and get the standard of refereeing back up so var isnt used so often

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I’d stop going.

Suspect a lot of people would but they'd be replaced with others until the game is completely sanitised because they don't know or care enough to create any controversy.