VAR

[Forest Hillbilly]

I think the microscopic analysis on TV , with slo-mo and lines being drawn over the stopped action, have pushed VAR into being used. Plus the punditry from ex-players, all of whom used to cheat by going to ground, as "they earned the right to do so". Or intimidating the ref, or wasting time.
Probably better to bin VAR in the long run, as that's still subject to human error, but also destroys the flow of the game.

 

[Willo]

I think the microscopic analysis on TV , with slo-mo and lines being drawn over the stopped action, have pushed VAR into being used. Plus the punditry from ex-players, all of whom used to cheat by going to ground, as "they earned the right to do so". Or intimidating the ref, or wasting time.
Probably better to bin VAR in the long run, as that's still subject to human error, but also destroys the flow of the game.

PL clubs voted 19 - 1 to retain VAR for the current season.

 

[Eagleman13]

PL clubs voted 19 - 1 to retain VAR for the current season.

Yes, correct, BUT, how shall I say, the repercussions by the 'establishment' would be costly. Now, you like to claim you have 'people' in area's of upper echelons in the game & in the media, people you at least, trust. Fair play.

Not all you are party to, are gospel. Nes Par?

 

[mtp1958]

Managers make mistakes, as do players and officials. Perfection is not in the human gift.

What ive had many people turn around and say your just perfect aren't you , I already knew that before they told me😗

 

[mtp1958]

VAR should be limited to 30seconds review time , not until they can find a reason to disallow a goal or send someone off , Clear and Obvious is it use , offside should be measured with the position of the feet only , like cricket and it should be the whole foot not a big toe , this alone would make it easier to confirm offside ,

 

[Willo]

VAR should be limited to 30seconds review time , not until they can find a reason to disallow a goal or send someone off , Clear and Obvious is it use , offside should be measured with the position of the feet only , like cricket and it should be the whole foot not a big toe , this alone would make it easier to confirm offside ,

I am in disagreement on this issue.
Marginal decisions would still exist, shifting the focus of any controversy.The debate would centre around a different part of the body and marginal calls would still exist.It would also make it more challenging for Assistants having to adjudicate on the respective positions of feet of defenders and attackers particularly in a crowded penalty area.
Critics have argued that a 'Feet only' offside makes defending almost impossible, forcing teams to play more defensively.

 

[Willo]

VAR should be limited to 30seconds review time , not until they can find a reason to disallow a goal or send someone off , Clear and Obvious is it use , offside should be measured with the position of the feet only , like cricket and it should be the whole foot not a big toe , this alone would make it easier to confirm offside ,

In my humble estimation this would result in even more controversy.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

VAR should be limited to 30seconds review time , not until they can find a reason to disallow a goal or send someone off , Clear and Obvious is it use , offside should be measured with the position of the feet only , like cricket and it should be the whole foot not a big toe , this alone would make it easier to confirm offside ,

The toe offside ruling is particularly daft when a player with size 11 boots is offside standing exactly in line with a defender with size 8 boots (except when LiVARpool get their 5 cm allowance - has that been mentioned since?).
Giving offsides for shoulders being over the line is just ridiculous.

 

[Dogburger]

VAR should be limited to 30seconds review time , not until they can find a reason to disallow a goal or send someone off , Clear and Obvious is it use , offside should be measured with the position of the feet only , like cricket and it should be the whole foot not a big toe , this alone would make it easier to confirm offside ,

But that still doesn't remove tight calls just changes it from the toe to the heel .
The elephant in the room for me is deciding the exact timing of when the ball is played . The Villa v Newcastle goal for instance looked offside and likely was .But the still frame used by the BBC to 'prove' their pundits contention that Abraham was "A yard off" showed the ball being played two feet away from the player passing the ball .Ive taken it back a split second to the ball being struck and Abraham still looks off but its a lot tighter than suggested and could be on if the 'Liverpool rules' were applied

My point being whatever system is used , var or no var there will be errors so why use it at all . Refs have sub consciously passed the buck to Var and linesmen have been confused to the point that they may as well not be there

On a lighter note one thing that happened during the game was the return of some of the old classics "The referee's a wan er ", You don't know what you're doing" and "your a b****** ,your a b****** referee"

Happy days

 

[Willo]

Whether 'Offside' is determined by feet, bosoms or phalluses, there will always be controversy in relation to marginal decisions.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Whether 'Offside' is determined by feet, bosoms or phalluses, there will always be controversy in relation to marginal decisions.

It's certainly decided by phalluses on the VAR team.

 

[ASCPFC]

It's certainly decided by phalluses on the VAR team.

I'd like to hear ref watch explain a big giant dick away. They still would somehow.

 

[Willo]

I'd like to hear ref watch explain a big giant dick away. They still would somehow.

Or indeed substantial bosoms.

 

[beak]

Var what is it good for absolutely nothing let's hear it again Edwin Starr he knew a thing or two.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I'd like to hear ref watch explain a big giant dick away. They still would somehow.

Dermot Gallagher would have no difficulty being the exemplar of said appendage.

 

[Willo]

Var what is it good for absolutely nothing let's hear it again Edwin Starr he knew a thing or two.

I had the pleasure of meeting 'Edwin Starr' in 'Baileys' in Watford at a Tamla Motown show.
Of course his famous song was "War" - He signed his autograph "Peace".

 

[Willo]

Dermot Gallagher would have no difficulty being the exemplar of said appendage.

Dermot Gallagher is grace and humility personified.
He has the polite manner of a handkerchief salesman.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Dermot Gallagher is grace and humility personified.
He has the polite manner of a handkerchief salesman.

And the appeal of a used handkerchief.

 

[Willo]

And the appeal of a used handkerchief.

Dermot officiated in the top flight for 15 seasons and due to his performances was granted a rare age extension in 2006 before his retirement in 2007.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Dermot officiated in the top flight for 15 seasons and due to his performances was granted a rare age extension in 2006 before his retirement in 2007.

Then he had to get back in his box at Anne Summers. Where he remains unbought.