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Teddy Eagle said:
Maybe but there have still been five in the last 70 years - Eden, Macmillan, Douglas-Home, Cameron & Johnson which is five more than my old school is ever likely to manage. I would say we had more sent to prison but the way those posh boys carry on that's probably not right.
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That’s the way it was for sure, but now and in the future?

We probably won’t be around in 70 years! But I would wager we won’t see that statistic repeated.
 
Something major is up right now in the Middle East, Israel might be preparing to strike Iran.

The U.S. Embassy Compound in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad is preparing for an ordered evacuation due to heightened tensions in the region, according to reports from U.S. and Iraqi officials to Reuters.

The Associated Press claims that US State Department is authorizing the departure of non-essential personnel and Family Members from Bahrain and Kuwait.

British Royal Navy Commercial Advisory agency, issues warning for all ships in the Persian Gulf region, as well in the Gulf of Oman and the Strait of Hormuz over escalation of military activity.
 
DanH said:
So is ol’Trumpy babes a nonce or not? Hard to keep up.
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Yeah really complicated to understand why Musk would conclude that he went too far, really really complicated to see what's in his best interests....

As for Trump's a nonce....Well, considering the efforts the Democrats went to in destroying Trump I find this notion difficult to take seriously.

There's the argument that they refused to touch Trump with Epstein because so many of their own are involved and it's a conspiracy between both parties (intelligence agencies) but I don't buy that as I think there are ways they could have manipulated leaks to only focus on him.....But without a firm foundation it wouldn't pan out....just as Russiagate didn't.

What I will say though is that whoever was having sex with trafficked girls or minors (in my view 16 but different states have other ages) then that person....however powerful they may be must be brought to justice.

Whether that's a republican president, former democratic president or indeed anyone.

Without red lines trust continues to erode.

Personally I think evidence has been destroyed as per the usual intelligence playbook, alongside blackmail and gate keeping anyway.......If there is anything true that is significant you can only hope for leaks.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Yeah really complicated to understand why Musk would conclude that he went too far, really really complicated to see what's in his best interests....

As for Trump's a nonce....Well, considering the efforts the Democrats went to in destroying Trump I find this notion difficult to take seriously.

There's the argument that they refused to touch Trump with Epstein because so many of their own are involved and it's a conspiracy between both parties (intelligence agencies) but I don't buy that as I think there are ways they could have manipulated leaks to only focus on him.....But without a firm foundation it wouldn't pan out....just as Russiagate didn't.

What I will say though is that whoever was having sex with trafficked girls or minors (in my view 16 but different states have other ages) then that person....however powerful they may be must be brought to justice.

Whether that's a republican president, former democratic president or indeed anyone.

Without red lines trust continues to erode.

Personally I think evidence has been destroyed as per the usual intelligence playbook, alongside blackmail and gate keeping anyway.......If there is anything true that is significant you can only hope for leaks.
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Yep to all the above. I like it when we agree 😘
 
Stirlingsays said:
Yeah really complicated to understand why Musk would conclude that he went too far, really really complicated to see what's in his best interests....

As for Trump's a nonce....Well, considering the efforts the Democrats went to in destroying Trump I find this notion difficult to take seriously.

There's the argument that they refused to touch Trump with Epstein because so many of their own are involved and it's a conspiracy between both parties (intelligence agencies) but I don't buy that as I think there are ways they could have manipulated leaks to only focus on him.....But without a firm foundation it wouldn't pan out....just as Russiagate didn't.

What I will say though is that whoever was having sex with trafficked girls or minors (in my view 16 but different states have other ages) then that person....however powerful they may be must be brought to justice.

Whether that's a republican president, former democratic president or indeed anyone.

Without red lines trust continues to erode.

Personally I think evidence has been destroyed as per the usual intelligence playbook, alongside blackmail and gate keeping anyway.......If there is anything true that is significant you can only hope for leaks.
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As with all the drivel by this poster, what adult would post so stupidly, is the use of the term " nonce " supposed to put a whimsical twist.
 
HKOwen said:
As with all the drivel by this poster, what adult would post so stupidly, is the use of the term " nonce " supposed to put a whimsical twist.
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True, but I'll give him a pass.

I've come to the conclusion that some of them genuinely do believe Trump capable of this kind of thing.

Now I'd apologise if I were wrong but from what I can tell Trump, sexually at least, just seems like your standard hot blooded male who loves beautiful women (his last hurrah was probably back running Miss World). Now I'm certain that he used his position to lay as many of them as possible but underage? Don't see it myself.

No Cornpop stories from Trump, where he tells us he loves children sitting in his lap and stroking his hairy legs.....No that came from Biden, who also was all hands and nose sniffing with the kids.....but the left never seemed interested in calling him a 'nonce' did they.
 
HKOwen said:
As with all the drivel by this poster, what adult would post so stupidly, is the use of the term " nonce " supposed to put a whimsical twist.
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Absolute car crash with your English here son.
 
Musk retweeted something interesting:

'You should cherish today's world.It won't remain for long.

- humanoid robots aren't *everywhere*
- flying drones aren't *everywhere*
- can do work making you valuable to others without specialized/hard-won/secret knowledge (pre-40s)
- still legal to manually drive to go where you like- distinct global cultures and languages still exist
- most people still share the same pre-/non-digital formative experiences
- there are no large scale wars or trade breakdowns between nuclear states or global powers
- assassinations are still mostly condemned
- boomers are still with us (extreme moderating force)
- millennial midlife crises over parent loss and childlessness hasn't yet begun (highly destabilizing)
- majority-minority demographic flips haven't yet occurred'


I'd probably agree with eighty percent of that.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Something major is up right now in the Middle East, Israel might be preparing to strike Iran.

The U.S. Embassy Compound in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad is preparing for an ordered evacuation due to heightened tensions in the region, according to reports from U.S. and Iraqi officials to Reuters.

The Associated Press claims that US State Department is authorizing the departure of non-essential personnel and Family Members from Bahrain and Kuwait.

British Royal Navy Commercial Advisory agency, issues warning for all ships in the Persian Gulf region, as well in the Gulf of Oman and the Strait of Hormuz over escalation of military activity.
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Guess you were proved right & the IDF taking out top Iranian commanders, you just know Iran will turn on the US now.
 
Eagleman13 said:
Guess you were proved right & the IDF taking out top Iranian commanders, you just know Iran will turn on the US now.
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Maybe.

As a complete layman my view is that they will opt for survival and play the long game.
There is only so much bombings can achieve and all this damages the US much more than Israel.....Israel not having a reputation to damage.

All the Iranian regime have to do is survive....If they attack the US then they risk bringing them in as well (even though Israel uses US weapons and ammo). They will probably throw retaliatory and largely performative drones at Israel.
 
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