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cryrst said:
she didn’t lie. She said it was paid for by the public. Which it partly is. And because the tax payer pays hmg who then give the rest to the bbc fundamentally She was correct.
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She didn’t say it was paid for the public! She specifically said the taxpayer. Now Trump might not be capable of understanding the difference but I am sure you do.

It’s not “fundamentally correct” at all. It’s entirely incorrect. Aka a lie.
 
Eagleman13 said:
Remember back in the 70's & 80's, 'Product Placement' was all the rage. Not saying that it influenced programme content, but, it certainly helped influence viewer content.
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Advertisers will withdraw support if content offends their target customers, so commercial broadcasters tend to avoid controversy. Excepting the openly biased GBNews who have lost some advertising, but presumably have budgeted for that in their business model.

The BBC is not so constrained. Either by commercial pressures or its openly stated political position.

That it is the perception of the right that the BBC is left leaning (code for not right) always says more about them than ever it does about the BBC.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
She didn’t say it was paid for the public! She specifically said the taxpayer. Now Trump might not be capable of understanding the difference but I am sure you do.

It’s not “fundamentally correct” at all. It’s entirely incorrect. Aka a lie.
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Ok for the hard of thinking and mr dissect everything.
I pay my license fee to the bbc
I also pay tax to hmg who pay even more to the bbc
So I’m a tax payer
Get it
so in my case she was correct.
Aka you are wrong
The lazy oxygen thieves don’t come into the equation as if they worked ha ha if ever, they would be tax payers.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Oops.

I wonder why Trump bothered releasing this guy.

Answers on a postcard.

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I thought this was strange at the time. Trump gets a lot of media coverage over his pardons but most Presidents did the same. Of course if you have TDS then every pardon is wrong whilst every Pardon of Clinton and Obama was measured and sensible justice.

I don't think there are any rules around pardons it is in the gift of the President personally I would only exercise it in 2 areas.

1. A miscarriage of justice where the person is clearly innocent but the complexities of the law mean they are unable to get justice. Unlike in the UK, getting a re-trial when fresh evident emerges is actually a lot harder in the US.

2. The person is guilty but the sentence is disproportionate to the crime. Again this happens quite a lot with automatic sentencing leaving a judge powerless to do anything else.

Other than that I'm not sure I can think of a justification as to why a pardon should be give.
 
cryrst said:
Ok for the hard of thinking and mr dissect everything.
I pay my license fee to the bbc
I also pay tax to hmg who pay even more to the bbc
So I’m a tax payer
Get it
so in my case she was correct.
Aka you are wrong
The lazy oxygen thieves don’t come into the equation as if they worked ha ha if ever, they would be tax payers.
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She said it was paid for by the taxpayer. Not some of it by taxpayers. In fact very little is directly funded through government. Only the world service is directly funded. The majority of their income comes from the licence, which is paid by licence payers, one per household, not all of whom will be taxpayers, and not by all taxpayers.

In your case she might well be correct that you are both a taxpayer and a licence payer. She was in mine.

As an overall claim she was simply wrong. It is a lie.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
She said it was paid for by the taxpayer. Not some of it by taxpayers. In fact very little is directly funded through government. Only the world service is directly funded. The majority of their income comes from the licence, which is paid by licence payers, one per household, not all of whom will be taxpayers, and not by all taxpayers.

In your case she might well be correct that you are both a taxpayer and a licence payer. She was in mine.

As an overall claim she was simply wrong. It is a lie.
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Complain to Ofcom, you can join the whole raft of people wanting it off the air. Luckily no other news channels “lie”. Personally I don’t think it was
 
Badger11 said:
I thought this was strange at the time. Trump gets a lot of media coverage over his pardons but most Presidents did the same. Of course if you have TDS then every pardon is wrong whilst every Pardon of Clinton and Obama was measured and sensible justice.

I don't think there are any rules around pardons it is in the gift of the President personally I would only exercise it in 2 areas.

1. A miscarriage of justice where the person is clearly innocent but the complexities of the law mean they are unable to get justice. Unlike in the UK, getting a re-trial when fresh evident emerges is actually a lot harder in the US.

2. The person is guilty but the sentence is disproportionate to the crime. Again this happens quite a lot with automatic sentencing leaving a judge powerless to do anything else.

Other than that I'm not sure I can think of a justification as to why a pardon should be give.
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From the very beginning in 2016, Trump's interests have mainly been centred around foreign and economic policy.

The Democrats treated his presidency so badly....and then tried to jail him that since he's altered that to include getting back at them but it's still the case that a lot of everything else certainly reflects the interests of the GOP at large.

And the GOP is......well, the phrase 'uniparty' is often used over there as it is here.
 
Stirlingsays said:
From the very beginning in 2016, Trump's interests have mainly been centred around foreign and economic policy.

The Democrats treated his presidency so badly....and then tried to jail him that since he's altered that to include getting back at them but it's still the case that a lot of everything else certainly reflects the interests of the GOP at large.

And the GOP is......well, the phrase 'uniparty' is often used over there as it is here.
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From the very beginning in 2016, Trump's interests have mainly been centred around lining his own, and his rich supporters, pockets.

The justice system, especially the DoJ when it wasn’t a Presidential tool, tried to jail him. Since he managed to escape their clutches by getting elected again, he has waged a war of obvious retribution. Something that looks more ridiculous with every passing day.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
She said it was paid for by the taxpayer. Not some of it by taxpayers. In fact very little is directly funded through government. Only the world service is directly funded. The majority of their income comes from the licence, which is paid by licence payers, one per household, not all of whom will be taxpayers, and not by all taxpayers.

In your case she might well be correct that you are both a taxpayer and a licence payer. She was in mine.

As an overall claim she was simply wrong. It is a lie.
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If over 52% are taxpayers and in our ‘group’ then she didn’t lie. All about majorities. It works in elections and referendums so must also work in this case 😁
 
cryrst said:
If over 52% are taxpayers and in our ‘group’ then she didn’t lie. All about majorities. It works in elections and referendums so must also work in this case 😁
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Nonsense. It’s either paid by taxpayers or it isn’t. It might be mostly paid by people who are both licence payers and taxpayers but that’s different.

It was careless and untrue. It was a lie.
 
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