US Politics

[Wisbech Eagle]

Jimmy Kimmels mockery crossed a line by politicising a tragedy and pointing fingers without evidence.

Condemning the act while speculating on motives risks fanning flames, not understanding them.

Canceling him isn’t about silencing analysis it’s about accountability for reckless rhetoric.

The doctor found out what happens when you celebrate murder and assassination so to did the fire chief and now so has kimmel.

The left have such a disregard for human life it's actually disgusting that they can make jokes and celebrate it.

They all had their moment of silence, knee taking, rioting and burning down cities when a criminal died of a dug overdose a few years ago. But when the right right have peaceful prayers and vigils for a kind soul that did nothing but debate the looney lefties they stamp all over the flowers and celebrate his death.

You are part of this toxic ideology and you contribute to the flames in your denial of it. At the end of the day you are only gaslighting yourself.

There’s plenty of evidence for what Jimmy Kimmel said. The politicisation of this tragedy arises exclusively from the right, with their attempts to blame the left, when the truth is that it actually falls on them.

If the right had held up their hands and admitted responsibility, on hearing the alleged confession from a guy whose family think had become more left leaning recently and was romantically involved with a transsexual, then we could be on the way to a reconciliation.

The guy is said to have said he had “had enough” of Charlie Kirk’s antagonism and this resulted in him taking extreme action. If the right accepted that it is their aggression towards those who don’t conform to their ideas that lies behind this tragedy then it would start the healing. Most people can swallow anger and fight with arguments but some cannot. We see the same on both sides of politics. The difference is the right seem incapable of recognising it. Or at least most cannot. Governor Cox being a shining example of responsible Republicanism in the words he is speaking. I hope he stands against Vance the next time. He is a decent man.

Political violence is a scourge that ought to unite everyone. Instead we have most of the right trying to ramp it up with some unbelievable rhetoric.

 

[georgenorman]

There’s plenty of evidence for what Jimmy Kimmel said. The politicisation of this tragedy arises exclusively from the right, with their attempts to blame the left, when the truth is that it actually falls on them.

If the right had held up their hands and admitted responsibility, on hearing the alleged confession from a guy whose family think had become more left leaning recently and was romantically involved with a transsexual, then we could be on the way to a reconciliation.

The guy is said to have said he had “had enough” of Charlie Kirk’s antagonism and this resulted in him taking extreme action. If the right accepted that it is their aggression towards those who don’t conform to their ideas that lies behind this tragedy then it would start the healing. Most people can swallow anger and fight with arguments but some cannot. We see the same on both sides of politics. The difference is the right seem incapable of recognising it. Or at least most cannot. Governor Cox being a shining example of responsible Republicanism in the words he is speaking. I hope he stands against Vance the next time. He is a decent man.

Political violence is a scourge that ought to unite everyone. Instead we have most of the right trying to ramp it up with some unbelievable rhetoric.

What a despicable post - victim blaming at its worst.

 

[eaglesdare]

There’s plenty of evidence for what Jimmy Kimmel said. The politicisation of this tragedy arises exclusively from the right, with their attempts to blame the left, when the truth is that it actually falls on them.

If the right had held up their hands and admitted responsibility, on hearing the alleged confession from a guy whose family think had become more left leaning recently and was romantically involved with a transsexual, then we could be on the way to a reconciliation.

The guy is said to have said he had “had enough” of Charlie Kirk’s antagonism and this resulted in him taking extreme action. If the right accepted that it is their aggression towards those who don’t conform to their ideas that lies behind this tragedy then it would start the healing. Most people can swallow anger and fight with arguments but some cannot. We see the same on both sides of politics. The difference is the right seem incapable of recognising it. Or at least most cannot. Governor Cox being a shining example of responsible Republicanism in the words he is speaking. I hope he stands against Vance the next time. He is a decent man.

Political violence is a scourge that ought to unite everyone. Instead we have most of the right trying to ramp it up with some unbelievable rhetoric.

Your defense of Kimmels reckless mockery hinges on flimsy, unverified claims and motives which conveniently fit your narrative. Typical lefty dodging your own stench.

The lefties are quick to sanctify their outrage while cheering or excusing violence when it suits them. Kimmel is an example.

You are dodging yet again. Ignoring the lefts fetish for chaos over calm vigils. Blaming Charlie Kirk on hearsay is a weak move from a weaker mind.

Political violence festers when you gaslight and deflect which is exactly what you are doing. Ignoring your own toxic rhetoric.

At least Governor cox has the guts to own up unlike you hiding behind Kimmels cheap shots like a fanboy.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I gotta admit I'm still in a kind of shock about Charlie Kirk.

Some words from Arnold Schwarzenegger.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Your defense of Kimmels reckless mockery hinges on flimsy, unverified claims and motives which conveniently fit your narrative. Typical lefty dodging your own stench.

The lefties are quick to sanctify their outrage while cheering or excusing violence when it suits them. Kimmel is an example.

You are dodging yet again. Ignoring the lefts fetish for chaos over calm vigils. Blaming Charlie Kirk on hearsay is a weak move from a weaker mind.

Political violence festers when you gaslight and deflect which is exactly what you are doing. Ignoring your own toxic rhetoric.

At least Governor cox has the guts to own up unlike you hiding behind Kimmels cheap shots like a fanboy.

Kimmel doesn’t need defending. He hasn’t done anything wrong. He has upset the baby in the White House who has put one of his acolytes in charge of the regulator who has leaned on the broadcaster. That’s naked political interference in free speech and an obvious transgression of their constitution. Trump has done this before. Using the power of his office to his personal advantage.

Only this evening, on leaving the UK, he openly threatened to withdraw the licence to broadcast from anyone who criticised him. That’s a big step away from a free press and towards authoritarianism.

You clearly don’t listen to Kimmel. He never cheers or excuses violence. That’s entirely in your imagination. He has not blamed Charlie Kirk either. I have blamed the ideas he, and others on the right, held. I think they are mistaken but that Charlie Kirk was sincere in believing in them.

The left has no fetish for violence! What a silly idea. They are the ones who treasure diversity and respect within a homogeneous society. That doesn’t include groups fighting one another.

Your reference to “calm vigils” seems intended to bring in the way ultra conservative opponents to abortion try to intimidate those seeking help from clinics. People exercising their legal rights are entitled to do so, every much as religious activists are entitled to protest. What neither are entitled to do is break the law. Whether calmly or not. Once again this is the right abusing the system.

I am glad to read you like Governor Cox. He looks like he could be the healer the USA so desperately needs. I do like Kimmel. He makes me laugh as much as he makes me think. Trump is always ridiculous so ridicule is the most appropriate way of reducing him to size. He will be back.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Kimmel doesn’t need defending. He hasn’t done anything wrong. He has upset the baby in the White House who has put one of his acolytes in charge of the regulator who has leaned on the broadcaster. That’s naked political interference in free speech and an obvious transgression of their constitution. Trump has done this before. Using the power of his office to his personal advantage.

Only this evening, on leaving the UK, he openly threatened to withdraw the licence to broadcast from anyone who criticised him. That’s a big step away from a free press and towards authoritarianism.

You clearly don’t listen to Kimmel. He never cheers or excuses violence. That’s entirely in your imagination. He has not blamed Charlie Kirk either. I have blamed the ideas he, and others on the right, held. I think they are mistaken but that Charlie Kirk was sincere in believing in them.

The left has no fetish for violence! What a silly idea. They are the ones who treasure diversity and respect within a homogeneous society. That doesn’t include groups fighting one another.

Your reference to “calm vigils” seems intended to bring in the way ultra conservative opponents to abortion try to intimidate those seeking help from clinics. People exercising their legal rights are entitled to do so, every much as religious activists are entitled to protest. What neither are entitled to do is break the law. Whether calmly or not. Once again this is the right abusing the system.

I am glad to read you like Governor Cox. He looks like he could be the healer the USA so desperately needs. I do like Kimmel. He makes me laugh as much as he makes me think. Trump is always ridiculous so ridicule is the most appropriate way of reducing him to size. He will be back.

Wasn't Kimmel taken off air because of a complaint from the FCC rather than because he'd upset Trump?

 

[Spindle]

There’s plenty of evidence for what Jimmy Kimmel said. The politicisation of this tragedy arises exclusively from the right, with their attempts to blame the left, when the truth is that it actually falls on them.

If the right had held up their hands and admitted responsibility, on hearing the alleged confession from a guy whose family think had become more left leaning recently and was romantically involved with a transsexual, then we could be on the way to a reconciliation.

The guy is said to have said he had “had enough” of Charlie Kirk’s antagonism and this resulted in him taking extreme action. If the right accepted that it is their aggression towards those who don’t conform to their ideas that lies behind this tragedy then it would start the healing. Most people can swallow anger and fight with arguments but some cannot. We see the same on both sides of politics. The difference is the right seem incapable of recognising it. Or at least most cannot. Governor Cox being a shining example of responsible Republicanism in the words he is speaking. I hope he stands against Vance the next time. He is a decent man.

Political violence is a scourge that ought to unite everyone. Instead we have most of the right trying to ramp it up with some unbelievable rhetoric.

Shameful. Blaming everyone except the guy who did it and what he represents.

What else should we expect from someone who thinks that Oct 7 was Israel's fault

 

[eaglesdare]

Kimmel doesn’t need defending. He hasn’t done anything wrong. He has upset the baby in the White House who has put one of his acolytes in charge of the regulator who has leaned on the broadcaster. That’s naked political interference in free speech and an obvious transgression of their constitution. Trump has done this before. Using the power of his office to his personal advantage.

Only this evening, on leaving the UK, he openly threatened to withdraw the licence to broadcast from anyone who criticised him. That’s a big step away from a free press and towards authoritarianism.

You clearly don’t listen to Kimmel. He never cheers or excuses violence. That’s entirely in your imagination. He has not blamed Charlie Kirk either. I have blamed the ideas he, and others on the right, held. I think they are mistaken but that Charlie Kirk was sincere in believing in them.

The left has no fetish for violence! What a silly idea. They are the ones who treasure diversity and respect within a homogeneous society. That doesn’t include groups fighting one another.

Your reference to “calm vigils” seems intended to bring in the way ultra conservative opponents to abortion try to intimidate those seeking help from clinics. People exercising their legal rights are entitled to do so, every much as religious activists are entitled to protest. What neither are entitled to do is break the law. Whether calmly or not. Once again this is the right abusing the system.

I am glad to read you like Governor Cox. He looks like he could be the healer the USA so desperately needs. I do like Kimmel. He makes me laugh as much as he makes me think. Trump is always ridiculous so ridicule is the most appropriate way of reducing him to size. He will be back.

Your claim that Kimmel has done nothing wrong is laughable. His snide mockery of a tragedy isn’t free speech it’s reckless fuel for division.

Crying “authoritarianism” while ignoring the left’s own censorship games is peak hypocrisy and I expect nothing less from you.

You blame Charlie kirks ideas based on zero evidence just vibes and based on nothing but rumors is intellectual cowardice, try facts next time. 👍🏻
You are also dodging the lefts obsession with chaos, riots and looting which get a pass on but peaceful vigils get sneered at. 🤷🏻‍♂️

The left’s diversity and respect stick falls apart when you demonise anyone who disagrees. Seeking help from abortion murder clinics? Seek help yourself if you think like this. It is a weak attempt to sidestep the issue at hand.

 

[Badger11]

Your claim that Kimmel has done nothing wrong is laughable. His snide mockery of a tragedy isn’t free speech it’s reckless fuel for division.

Crying “authoritarianism” while ignoring the left’s own censorship games is peak hypocrisy and I expect nothing less from you.

You blame Charlie kirks ideas based on zero evidence just vibes and based on nothing but rumors is intellectual cowardice, try facts next time. 👍🏻
You are also dodging the lefts obsession with chaos, riots and looting which get a pass on but peaceful vigils get sneered at. 🤷🏻‍♂️

The left’s diversity and respect stick falls apart when you demonise anyone who disagrees. Seeking help from abortion murder clinics? Seek help yourself if you think like this. It is a weak attempt to sidestep the issue at hand.

Kimmel has spread disinformation about what happened on a major TV network. You would expect him to be sanctioned as ABC has a public responsibility in exchange for it's licence.

That said, his real crime is that he is crap and people have stopped watching him. On America TV that is a crime that they don't forgive unlike the BBC.

During the communist witch-hunts of the fifties and the so called friendly and unfriendly witnesses some wag put a sign up at a film studio which read "It's not enough to have informed you also have to have talent".

To bring that up to date, being Hollyweird or woke will only get you so far, it's still all about bums on seats.

 

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Maybe we should rename this OP, Trump/Putin dictators news?

 

[eaglesdare]

Kimmel has spread disinformation about what happened on a major TV network. You would expect him to be sanctioned as ABC has a public responsibility in exchange for it's licence.

That said, his real crime is that he is crap and people have stopped watching him. On America TV that is a crime that they don't forgive unlike the BBC.

During the communist witch-hunts of the fifties and the so called friendly and unfriendly witnesses some wag put a sign up at a film studio which read "It's not enough to have informed you also have to have talent".

To bring that up to date, being Hollyweird or woke will only get you so far, it's still all about bums on seats.

Maybe ABC were just wanting for a reason to take him off air. And when he spread the disinformation that was the last the last straw.

Very strange that there is more outrage by the lefties and MSM at Jimmy Kimmel losing his show than they are Charlie Kirk losing his life.

No ones banned Kimmel from every social media app like they did trump.
Nor tried to jail him like they did trump or fire a bullet at him like Trump and Kirk.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Wasn't Kimmel taken off air because of a complaint from the FCC rather than because he'd upset Trump?

Yes, that was method!

The FCC Chairman Brendan Carr, who threatened action against the broadcaster if they failed to act on his complaint, is a Trump appointee. He is a staunch conservative and Trump supporter put there to do Trump’s bidding.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Shameful. Blaming everyone except the guy who did it and what he represents.

What else should we expect from someone who thinks that Oct 7 was Israel's fault

You are another who needs to go to Specsavers!

At no time have I offered any excuses for the guy who allegedly did this. All I am doing is looking beyond and behind the event itself in an effort to understand why such political violence happens so it can be eliminated.

Something you seem determined not to participate in by suggesting the guy “represents” a group of people who are collectively responsible.

Political violence occurs on both sides of the divide I am trying to narrow, but you, and much of the right, are widening.

Oct 7th wasn’t Israel’s fault. Creating circumstances in which hatred spills over into mass murder could have been. It needs to be examined.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Yes, that was method!

The FCC Chairman Brendan Carr, who threatened action against the broadcaster if they failed to act on his complaint, is a Trump appointee. He is a staunch conservative and Trump supporter put there to do Trump’s bidding.

No conspiracy theories there then.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Yes, that was method!

The FCC Chairman Brendan Carr, who threatened action against the broadcaster if they failed to act on his complaint, is a Trump appointee. He is a staunch conservative and Trump supporter put there to do Trump’s bidding.

When the claim of bias by political appointees was put to you in the past you would dismiss the point.

So frankly, you don't have any credibility.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Maybe ABC were just wanting for a reason to take him off air. And when he spread the disinformation that was the last the last straw.

Very strange that there is more outrage by the lefties and MSM at Jimmy Kimmel losing his show than they are Charlie Kirk losing his life.

No ones banned Kimmel from every social media app like they did trump.
Nor tried to jail him like they did trump or fire a bullet at him like Trump and Kirk.

It beggars belief that the cancel culture brigade have got the nerve to complain about this and other examples.
But then, why should we be surprised at rank hypocrisy from the Left. It's what they do best.

Personally, I believe that people should be able to say what they like if they are speaking independently.

Kimmel represents a network and it's owners. He has great a responsibility. He crossed the line by a mile and deserves to never work again.

Even the likes of you and me know where to draw the line on social media. I wouldn't even post an opinion on Facebook or the like, however seemingly harmless. It's just dumb.

I'm sure there have been some people in history who deserved to die, but Kirk was certainly not one of them.
Speaking ill of the dead is never a great idea in such tragic circumstances and even if one were happy to see the back of them, it would be wise to celebrate in one's own head.

This killing has exposed a deep and far reaching moral decline and lack of empathy in our societies.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Any lefty complaining about free speech who wasn't also complaining when the left were in power doesn't deserve a hearing. Some of the same people complaining about Kimmel were defending people being arrested for silently praying.

It's very rare that I heard any of them complain about free speech unless it affected their politics.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Any lefty complaining about free speech who wasn't also complaining when the left were in power doesn't deserve a hearing.

It's very rare that I heard any of them complain about free speech unless it affected their politics.

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I'm sure my grandfather would have been delighted that he fought in WW2 for this.

 

[Spindle]

You are another who needs to go to Specsavers!

At no time have I offered any excuses for the guy who allegedly did this. All I am doing is looking beyond and behind the event itself in an effort to understand why such political violence happens so it can be eliminated.

Something you seem determined not to participate in by suggesting the guy “represents” a group of people who are collectively responsible.

Political violence occurs on both sides of the divide I am trying to narrow, but you, and much of the right, are widening.

Oct 7th wasn’t Israel’s fault. Creating circumstances in which hatred spills over into mass murder could have been. It needs to be examined.

1. You've tried to distance him from your lot and claim he's a right winger. That does nothing to eliminate political violence. If you wanted that you should be calling out the left on their behaviours because they aren't going to listen to the opposition.

2. As I said in #1, there you go

3. Whataboutery without equivalence, and in the same sentence blames the right wing for getting more extreme. Hardly an attempt to gain concensus

4. "Wasn't their fault, but it was because they caused it".

You can't even see your own contradictions lol

 

[Stirlingsays]

I'm sure my grandfather would have been delighted that he fought in WW2 for this.

The generation were completely betrayed.

Nearly half a million died and much more in WW1 only for modern politicians to give the country they fought for away to foreigners.