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eaglesdare said:
Calling it nonsense doesn't make the facts disappear.

tyler Robinson wasn't some random lone wolf. reports show he was radicalized and despised conservatives like Kirk.

Complete with a transgender boyfriend and bullet casings engraved with taunts like "Hey fascist, catch!" That's not "personal anger" that's the toxic brew of left-wing identity politics and anti-conservative hate Kirk spent his life exposing.

And that doctor Dr. Matthew Jung straight-up cheered Charlie kirks murder in front of patients, saying he "deserved it" and "I'm glad" That's not tolerance that is the vicious leftism Kirk warned us about.

By the way I'm thrilled the bullet missed Trump last year because unlike your sides cheerleaders we actually value life over ideology. I still think you were disappointed the bullet missed.

The real question here is why does the left keep excusing or celebrating this hate? Kirk's blood is on the hands of everyone who normalised it. Charlie Kirk was right all along.
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On that we agree. Unfortunately your “facts” aren’t factual. They are heavily biased opinion.

Who knows where and how the guy formed his ideas. I don’t and I am damned sure you don’t either.

Likewise any doctor, or anyone else, making ill considered remarks, is going to suffer the consequences. That’s not leftism. It’s stupidity.

I would be glad if no private individual had the ability to fire bullets at anyone so that being pleased they missed was never needed.

The left has no need to excuse anything, because they aren’t celebrating. Not as a group. Nobody normal celebrates murder whatever their politics might be.

Idiots belong to every group. If it had been a left thinking figure involved there would still have been idiots celebrating. It’s just you would neither have cared nor noticed.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
On that we agree. Unfortunately your “facts” aren’t factual. They are heavily biased opinion.

Who knows where and how the guy formed his ideas. I don’t and I am damned sure you don’t either.

Likewise any doctor, or anyone else, making ill considered remarks, is going to suffer the consequences. That’s not leftism. It’s stupidity.

I would be glad if no private individual had the ability to fire bullets at anyone so that being pleased they missed was never needed.

The left has no need to excuse anything, because they aren’t celebrating. Not as a group. Nobody normal celebrates murder whatever their politics might be.

Idiots belong to every group. If it had been a left thinking figure involved there would still have been idiots celebrating. It’s just you would neither have cared nor noticed.
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Dismissing mountains of reporting and evidence and even the FBI and Utah's governor as "heavily biased opinion" just because it doesn't fit your narrative is just peak denial.

Tyler Robinson was not some blank slate as family and roommates confirmed he recently turned political and was "deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology"

Bullet casings at the scene had engravings like "oh bella ciao, bella ciao" (that anti-fascist partisan anthem taken by the far left) and other taunts straight out of online leftist rage bait.

We don't need a crystal ball to connect those dots the investigators already have.

As for the doctor....calling his open celebration of a political murder "stupidity" instead of what it is which is raw, unfiltered left wing venom is just you gaslighting yourself 🤷🏻‍♂️
The doctor said "I'm glad, he deserved it" right in front of patients and staff and then doubled down by offering to buy lunch like it was no big deal. The hospital clearly did not see his remarks as "I'll considered" as they had a full investigation and forced his resignation.

pretending this is not a left fueled pattern....that's the real nonsense here.
 
eaglesdare said:
Dismissing mountains of reporting and evidence and even the FBI and Utah's governor as "heavily biased opinion" just because it doesn't fit your narrative is just peak denial.

Tyler Robinson was not some blank slate as family and roommates confirmed he recently turned political and was "deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology"

Bullet casings at the scene had engravings like "oh bella ciao, bella ciao" (that anti-fascist partisan anthem taken by the far left) and other taunts straight out of online leftist rage bait.

We don't need a crystal ball to connect those dots the investigators already have.

As for the doctor....calling his open celebration of a political murder "stupidity" instead of what it is which is raw, unfiltered left wing venom is just you gaslighting yourself 🤷🏻‍♂️
The doctor said "I'm glad, he deserved it" right in front of patients and staff and then doubled down by offering to buy lunch like it was no big deal. The hospital clearly did not see his remarks as "I'll considered" as they had a full investigation and forced his resignation.

pretending this is not a left fueled pattern....that's the real nonsense here.
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More nonsense. I don’t know if you deliberately miss the point or genuinely just cannot understand it. Whatever evidence the FBI uncovers the guy is still an individual. Not a group.

Governor Cox, as well as making some emotional political remarks, has also talked some common sense about the need not to try to use this event to further divide by reference to other events involving Democrats as victims.

Read this:- https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/11/disagree-better-spencer-cox-stop-hate-00557293

The doctor resigned by email. Whether he was requested to is unknown. The nurse was not fired, or threatened. She decided to politicise it. Just as you are.

This isn’t a left problem. This is a USA problem. Not a single strand of politics problem. Those trying to cast it as such exacerbate the problem, rather than solving it.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
More nonsense. I don’t know if you deliberately miss the point or genuinely just cannot understand it. Whatever evidence the FBI uncovers the guy is still an individual. Not a group.

Governor Cox, as well as making some emotional political remarks, has also talked some common sense about the need not to try to use this event to further divide by reference to other events involving Democrats as victims.

Read this:- https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/11/disagree-better-spencer-cox-stop-hate-00557293

The doctor resigned by email. Whether he was requested to is unknown. The nurse was not fired, or threatened. She decided to politicise it. Just as you are.

This isn’t a left problem. This is a USA problem. Not a single strand of politics problem. Those trying to cast it as such exacerbate the problem, rather than solving it.
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Oh I see your point just fine and it's the same deflection every time.

The FBI is digging through his Discord chats, finding a note vowing to "take out" Kirk, DNA on the murder weapon and bullet casings etched with "oh bella ciao" (that far-left anti fascist battle cry) and "Hey, fascist! Catch!"
That was not some individual act. It's the poison from years of left media and online rage.

Robinsons own family said he went hard left recently calling Kirk "full of hate and spreading hate" after spending time on the dark web leftist echo boards. Perhaps you too have visited these?

He was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology and even if his boyfriends trans adds another layer.

The doctor didn't just "stumble" into cheering "I'm glad, he deserved it" in front of patients. He resigned in disgrace after a full probe because that's the unhinged endpoint of that rhetoric.
 
Regarding that CEO murderer from months back that Luigi fella all the lefty girls were swooning over and Bill Burr likes.

Well it seems that a Judge has just dismissed terrorism charges against Luigi Mangione and downgrades his murder charge to second degree.

Second degree murder: Unpremeditated, no prior planning.

I mean how can you dismiss terrorism charges? He had written a literal manifesto where he writes justifying the murder to come, but ''there is no proof of premeditation'???

Insane justice system.

Like I've always said....it isn't what the law says that's important....it's who is interpreting the law that matters.
 
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Latest on the Kirk murder investigation:

Up to 20 individuals in the Discord chat used by the murderer of Charlie Kirk are to be questioned by the FBI, it is understood that ''up to and more than half'' of them are ''transgender''. FBI director Patel says there is ''alot more'' than 20 in the discord server they were using.

George Zinn, the old man who was first arrested at the Charlie Kirk shooting, has confessed to possessing child pornography and has been charged by the FBI.

Zinn also admitted last night that he instinctively acted as a distraction to allow the real shooter to get away; however, no connection that we know of exists between Zinn and Tyler Robinson.
 
I, and I suspect the family don't care how he formed his beliefs, he is 100% guilty and should be tried and sentenced as soon as possible.

This is as clear a case of premeditated murder as you could get.
 
The response from some on the left is pretty bad.

I'm not talking about the percent who made videos celebrating the murder of this father of two or those who just celebrated it whether they expressed it publicly or not......Those people are lost.

No, there needs to be significant criticism of influencers who blame(d) the 'far right' and attempted to gaslight as many normies as possible that the murderer was 'far right' (an inversion of the truth) before the obvious comes out and once again....At least in terms of the basic facts..... we discover that Occam's razor is nearer the truth.

Their hope is that the low information and busy out there will still have that impression and thus they would have limited the impact that this murder had on morale in the left normie sphere. It's morally reprehensible but no one should be surprised. No one was asking them to berate themselves (as they didn't put that trigger) just not lying and speaking the truth was the only requirement.

I'm not aware of any of those influencers who haven't taken responsibility for this misinformation, instead most of them have just stopped talking about the Kirk murder and moved onto other topics.

They actually think they are good people.
 
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eaglesdare said:
Oh I see your point just fine and it's the same deflection every time.

The FBI is digging through his Discord chats, finding a note vowing to "take out" Kirk, DNA on the murder weapon and bullet casings etched with "oh bella ciao" (that far-left anti fascist battle cry) and "Hey, fascist! Catch!"
That was not some individual act. It's the poison from years of left media and online rage.

Robinsons own family said he went hard left recently calling Kirk "full of hate and spreading hate" after spending time on the dark web leftist echo boards. Perhaps you too have visited these?

He was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology and even if his boyfriends trans adds another layer.

The doctor didn't just "stumble" into cheering "I'm glad, he deserved it" in front of patients. He resigned in disgrace after a full probe because that's the unhinged endpoint of that rhetoric.
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There is no deflection at all. It’s just pointing out the obvious truth that one individual does not, and cannot, be representative of a group. If the suspect turns out to have become a devoted follower of Chairman Mao it doesn’t mean the whole left thinking world wants to murder opponents. It just means that those on the political extremes take extreme actions. Both extremes. You can trawl through far right media to find online rage and poison. You don’t have to look that far. You can find it here too. In talking about the “left” as you do, you spread hate.

I don’t think the family have said he became “hard left”. They said he became political. Not that it really matters. What matters is that he is just a single individual.

The words from FBI Chief Patel yesterday were disgraceful. They show just how political the leadership of the FBI is under Trump as they weren’t measured and factual. They included the kind of opinions you are now spouting. Disgraceful!
 
Stirlingsays said:
The response from some on the left is pretty bad.

I'm not talking about the percent who made videos celebrating the murder of this father of two or those who just celebrated it whether they expressed it publicly or not......Those people are lost.

No, there needs to be significant criticism of influencers who blame(d) the 'far right' and attempted to gaslight as many normies as possible that the murderer was 'far right' (an inversion of the truth) before the obvious comes out and once again....At least in terms of the basic facts..... we discover that Occam's razor is nearer the truth.

Their hope is that the low information and busy out there will still have that impression and thus they would have limited the impact that this murder had on morale in the left normie sphere. It's morally reprehensible but no one should be surprised. No one was asking them to berate themselves (as they didn't put that trigger) just not lying and speaking the truth was the only requirement.

I'm not aware of any of those influencers who haven't taken responsibility for this misinformation, instead most of them have just stopped talking about the Kirk murder and moved onto other topics.

They actually think they are good people.
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Whilst I agree with you isn't that what these social media influencers do anyway?

They jump on any bandwagon that is trending in the hope that they get more clicks (adverts and sponsorship). Within minutes of Jussie Smollet posting that he had been attacked by some MAGA's they were all piling in "Justice for Jussie", "I stand with Jussie", anyone with a brain on reading his post smelt a rat and steered clear.

Of course those people then develop amnesia when it became clear he was lying.

It's the world we live in now, full of people desperate for attention and not wanting a real job. They all hope they are the next Kardashian, hey it beats working for a living.

if I could make a living out of my BS posts I would. 😀
 
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