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eaglesdare said:
It has everything to do with the left because the killer tyler robinson, was a radical left winger who hated Kirk for his conservative views 👍🏻

The doctor was cheerleading that Charlie Kirk had been murdered. That's the toxic leftism Kirk fought against for years.

Maybe you were one of the ones that was disappointed that the bullet did not take out Trump last year?
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This is just more nonsense.

That it seems the accused guy seems to have had a transgender boyfriend and despised the evangelical hard right doesn’t mean you can blame the left for the killing. An individual is accused. Not a philosophy. A philosophy which holds significantly more tolerance for others than most on the right do.

We need to understand why this individual seems to have allowed his personal anger to lead him to violence and then to question the way he was able to express it. What makes any individual so angry he is prepared to kill? Without a high powered weapon he would have been unable to. Who wants to ban the availability of such weapons? The left, or the right?

Exactly the same considerations apply to the doctor.

The answers are not found by looking left. They are found by looking right.

If you truly want to understand why this might be try reading this latest missive from Andrew Torba, the owner of Gab who presents the kind of opinion held by the evangelical hard right in the USA. These arrive almost daily in my in box, together with daily requests for money:-

news.gab.com

The Hour of Sanctification

The news of Charlie Kirk’s assassination has left a heavy weight on many of our hearts. It’s a sobering time that forces us to confront…
news.gab.com
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
This is just more nonsense.

That it seems the accused guy seems to have had a transgender boyfriend and despised the evangelical hard right doesn’t mean you can blame the left for the killing. An individual is accused. Not a philosophy. A philosophy which holds significantly more tolerance for others than most on the right do.

We need to understand why this individual seems to have allowed his personal anger to lead him to violence and then to question the way he was able to express it. What makes any individual so angry he is prepared to kill? Without a high powered weapon he would have been unable to. Who wants to ban the availability of such weapons? The left, or the right?

Exactly the same considerations apply to the doctor.

The answers are not found by looking left. They are found by looking right.

If you truly want to understand why this might be try reading this latest missive from Andrew Torba, the owner of Gab who presents the kind of opinion held by the evangelical hard right in the USA. These arrive almost daily in my in box, together with daily requests for money:-

news.gab.com

The Hour of Sanctification

The news of Charlie Kirk’s assassination has left a heavy weight on many of our hearts. It’s a sobering time that forces us to confront…
news.gab.com
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Your recent posts increasingly remind me of guys you sometimes see in city centres waving their arms around, shouting out incomprehensible gibberish.
 
Spindle said:
Don't you think that having all this extreme feminism, constant emasculation, "the answer" for low pecking order men to not man up but to become women, the attack on marriage, the family unit and motherhood, the hatred of home nations, promotion of immense immigration and having weirdness rolled out as Draconian policy across the corporate world as a sea change, might have had anything to do with it?

Ever think that most people who were silent didn't want that? And that people might actually stand against it?
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No, because the way you portray things isn’t true.

Extreme feminism is, at best, just an opinion. Feminism itself being simply a reaction to repression. Nobody is being emasculated. Some are expressing themselves when previously they were also repressed. There is no attack on marriage, families or motherhood. There is now freedom not to participate if you decide not to.

You see weirdness where there is actually personal choice. I see pride in nations able to respect personal choices. You want those nations forced back to the past because you feel uncomfortable with the present.

We now live in a completely different world to even a generation ago. One that is never going back but will continue to change. Movement of people is the new normal. Our place in that world is totally different to what it once was.

We need to ensure we survive in reasonable shape. We need people to support our economy to do that. How many and where they come from will depend on many things yet to be known.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
This is just more nonsense.

That it seems the accused guy seems to have had a transgender boyfriend and despised the evangelical hard right doesn’t mean you can blame the left for the killing. An individual is accused. Not a philosophy. A philosophy which holds significantly more tolerance for others than most on the right do.

We need to understand why this individual seems to have allowed his personal anger to lead him to violence and then to question the way he was able to express it. What makes any individual so angry he is prepared to kill? Without a high powered weapon he would have been unable to. Who wants to ban the availability of such weapons? The left, or the right?

Exactly the same considerations apply to the doctor.

The answers are not found by looking left. They are found by looking right.

If you truly want to understand why this might be try reading this latest missive from Andrew Torba, the owner of Gab who presents the kind of opinion held by the evangelical hard right in the USA. These arrive almost daily in my in box, together with daily requests for money:-

news.gab.com

The Hour of Sanctification

The news of Charlie Kirk’s assassination has left a heavy weight on many of our hearts. It’s a sobering time that forces us to confront…
news.gab.com
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Talk about digging your heels in.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
No, because the way you portray things isn’t true.

Extreme feminism is, at best, just an opinion. Feminism itself being simply a reaction to repression. Nobody is being emasculated. Some are expressing themselves when previously they were also repressed. There is no attack on marriage, families or motherhood. There is now freedom not to participate if you decide not to.

You see weirdness where there is actually personal choice. I see pride in nations able to respect personal choices. You want those nations forced back to the past because you feel uncomfortable with the present.

We now live in a completely different world to even a generation ago. One that is never going back but will continue to change. Movement of people is the new normal. Our place in that world is totally different to what it once was.

We need to ensure we survive in reasonable shape. We need people to support our economy to do that. How many and where they come from will depend on many things yet to be known.
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We never stray far from our biological instincts. Only someone who has bought into this shite would claim that somehow we've moved on from that.

I can't be arsed to counter your ludicrous claims. "Oppression" lolol, I don't remember women being rounded up and sent to their deaths in the trenches.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Trump says he would be minded to designate Antifa a terrorist organisation.

Everybody honest knows that Antifa are the Democrat's unofficial foot soldiers and joined with BLM to riot in cities for 18 months first time around. It's essentially the trash that took out Kirk and cheered and supported it.

If he does it things could finally be getting spicy......love a bit of spice.

Sparky, sparky, spark.
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As Antifa aren’t an organisation it will be interesting to see how he thinks that might be achieved! It’s just more red meat thrown to the gullible. Sad to see it gobbled up here!

The idea that Antifa are foot soldiers for the Democrats made me smile. All they do is expose the extreme right wing ideology that has infiltrated the right side of US politics. Something every traditional Republican will be as happy with as every traditional Democrat.
 
Spindle said:
We never stray far from our biological instincts. Only someone who has bought into this shite would claim that somehow we've moved on from that.

I can't be arsed to counter your ludicrous claims. "Oppression" lolol, I don't remember women being rounded up and sent to their deaths in the trenches.
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I haven’t bought into any “shite”. I have seen it first hand, know the strains and challenges involved and the freedoms achieved after coming to terms with it. You are in denial of reality.

I didn’t suggest any women were sent to the trenches. Many though were expected to stay at home and be baby factories. Some wanted that. Some still do. The important thing is to allow them to decide for themselves and not force them into something they don’t want.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
How does it help me change the law as per the instruction?
What you actually mean is vote for someone who might change the law provided they don't get
A. Sacked or
B. Change party after a few months.
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That’s a criticism of our party system not of the general principle. The basic fact remains that you need significant support, within Parliament, to achieve any such change.

Such things as capital punishment get a free vote as they are matters of conscience.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
This is just more nonsense.

That it seems the accused guy seems to have had a transgender boyfriend and despised the evangelical hard right doesn’t mean you can blame the left for the killing. An individual is accused. Not a philosophy. A philosophy which holds significantly more tolerance for others than most on the right do.

We need to understand why this individual seems to have allowed his personal anger to lead him to violence and then to question the way he was able to express it. What makes any individual so angry he is prepared to kill? Without a high powered weapon he would have been unable to. Who wants to ban the availability of such weapons? The left, or the right?

Exactly the same considerations apply to the doctor.

The answers are not found by looking left. They are found by looking right.

If you truly want to understand why this might be try reading this latest missive from Andrew Torba, the owner of Gab who presents the kind of opinion held by the evangelical hard right in the USA. These arrive almost daily in my in box, together with daily requests for money:-

news.gab.com

The Hour of Sanctification

The news of Charlie Kirk’s assassination has left a heavy weight on many of our hearts. It’s a sobering time that forces us to confront…
news.gab.com
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Calling it nonsense doesn't make the facts disappear.

tyler Robinson wasn't some random lone wolf. reports show he was radicalized and despised conservatives like Kirk.

Complete with a transgender boyfriend and bullet casings engraved with taunts like "Hey fascist, catch!" That's not "personal anger" that's the toxic brew of left-wing identity politics and anti-conservative hate Kirk spent his life exposing.

And that doctor Dr. Matthew Jung straight-up cheered Charlie kirks murder in front of patients, saying he "deserved it" and "I'm glad" That's not tolerance that is the vicious leftism Kirk warned us about.

By the way I'm thrilled the bullet missed Trump last year because unlike your sides cheerleaders we actually value life over ideology. I still think you were disappointed the bullet missed.

The real question here is why does the left keep excusing or celebrating this hate? Kirk's blood is on the hands of everyone who normalised it. Charlie Kirk was right all along.
 
NMPalace said:
this is what 'free' speech now looks like in the US.

www.bbc.co.uk

US president Donald Trump says he will sue New York Times for $15bn

He has accused the paper of defamation and libel, saying it served as a "mouthpiece" for Democrats.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Well sorry.....the left don't have a leg to stand on there.

If they had been against the war on conservatives, sacking and persecutions then I'd also be against this.....Trump just being the figure-head.

So now the left don't like censorship? Yeah, only when it's them being targeted.

But no, they all cheered it on, when in power......Despite the warnings that this would all be visited back onto them.

Brings to mind the old Bible saying of 'reaping what is sowed'.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
I haven’t bought into any “shite”. I have seen it first hand, know the strains and challenges involved and the freedoms achieved after coming to terms with it. You are in denial of reality.

I didn’t suggest any women were sent to the trenches. Many though were expected to stay at home and be baby factories. Some wanted that. Some still do. The important thing is to allow them to decide for themselves and not force them into something they don’t want.
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You're a feminist.

It is FACT that marriage and family gives women greater happiness.
 
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