US Politics

My forecast of the result doesn’t but everything else does.

I wager many of those who decided to give Trump the benefit of any doubt now regret it though. Although trying to forecast how the voters in the USA will react to things often seems to defy both logic and common sense.

We have become accustomed to that. What is so disappointing is to see those attitudes replicated here, albeit in a much smaller minority than is found in the USA. I am sorry if you find that patronising. I think it’s just an obvious truth. We are generally politically more adept than that.
Oh if only the vote was withdrawn from “ thickos” eh
 
A website called charliesmurderers.com is creating a list of people who have posted online supporting and/or celebrating the killing of Charlie Kirk. Where known, they are going to name their employer or college in the hope that they are sacked and, if not, the business or college boycotted.
It's a great idea and initiative.


Having read a dozen or so I find this quite overboard. Most of them are just quoting him on his 2nd Amendment quote, they simply aren't sympathic rather than outright celebrating his death. I think that trying to get somebody the sack is very much a "cancel me too" radical left type strategy that shouldn't be indulged in.

IF they stood up saying "Yay!" and the likes then sure, go for them, but most are not.
 
They can add this moron to the list too, although, she was already sacked off by the Beeb.

According to her, the streets have been silent regarding the war in Gaza, has she been living under a rock?



Funny, because I don't recall a post from her about the 47 minutes being "too graphic". She's a sectarian.
 
They can add this moron to the list too, although, she was already sacked off by the Beeb.

According to her, the streets have been silent regarding the war in Gaza, has she been living under a rock?

The other day the BBC explained in a roundabout way why she was sacked. I doubt it was for her views as they probably chime with the rest of the staff. It was for more practical reasons.

The gist of the article was that viewing figures for cookery shows has plummeted not just on the BBC but across the TV spectrum. People have got bored with the genre so only a handful of ones are doing well. She, simply isn't that interesting a chef she is not mentioned by name but I suspect that as she has been moaning in the press this was a timely article explaining why the BBC is cutting back.

As for her comments about Gaza, yes they are stupid. We have had wall to wall coverage (not that it is wrong) since the start. It's just another pathetic Z list celebrity trying to be relevant. I wonder how much money has she donated to the cause she suddenly feels so passionate about?

 
Having read a dozen or so I find this quite overboard. Most of them are just quoting him on his 2nd Amendment quote, they simply aren't sympathic rather than outright celebrating his death. I think that trying to get somebody the sack is very much a "cancel me too" radical left type strategy that shouldn't be indulged in.

IF they stood up saying "Yay!" and the likes then sure, go for them, but most are not.
I don't care now - attack the Left in every legal way we can.
 
I doubt there is anyone, not on the left, who has celebrated this assassination, so yes, it is a left thing
It just isn’t. Anymore than someone who celebrates the death of Obama, when it happens, would make that a right thing.

Both are stupid things done by ignorant people.

If everyone on the left were celebrating you would be right but the vast majority are outraged and as disgusted as everyone else.

This ought to be an opportunity to heal divisions, not widen them in the way that some are trying to do.
 
His political antenna is wonky and he think the static it picks up somehow agrees with him.
This gave me a good laugh. My political antenna is firmly anchored in the middle so not the least “wonky”!

Whereas many here are so far to the right they are in danger of going over the edge, so not the least stable!

Not, of course, that they will even realise it, let alone accept it. I see it though, from my position in the centre.
 
The far right are not the ones going around shooting people and causing violence. As far as I can see they have been peaceful. Even the flags up around is a sign of a peaceful protest.

The left are the problem. They are the ones who burn our cities, loot shops, rape our women and assassinating us and going into schools and shooting kids. The right are not not the problem here. We just want to left alone without having bulshit ideologies forced upon us.
 
It just isn’t. Anymore than someone who celebrates the death of Obama, when it happens, would make that a right thing.

Both are stupid things done by ignorant people.

If everyone on the left were celebrating you would be right but the vast majority are outraged and as disgusted as everyone else.

This ought to be an opportunity to heal divisions, not widen them in the way that some are trying to do.
If you can provide any evidence of someone on the right celebrating this, I will say you are correct. It most definitely is a left thing.
While we are at it, the EU parliament showed the selves up didn’t they. Nothing to remember CK, a white conservative but a minutes silence for George Floyd, a convicted criminal, oh sorry a black convicted criminal.
 
The far right are not the ones going around shooting people and causing violence. As far as I can see they have been peaceful. Even the flags up around is a sign of a peaceful protest.

The left are the problem. They are the ones who burn our cities, loot shops, rape our women and assassinating us and going into schools and shooting kids. The right are not not the problem here. We just want to left alone without having bulshit ideologies forced upon us.
This is totally incorrect. It’s misinformed at best, though more likely just propaganda.

As this is the US thread I will concentrate the evidence there, but the same applies here. Have you forgotten Jo Cox? Killed by white supremacist Thomas Mair. By the way Jo Cox’s husband and her sister have both spoken out after the murder of Charlie Kirk about the danger of it resulting in even more political violence and death. Just read this. There’s much more, but it’s enough:-

 
If you can provide any evidence of someone on the right celebrating this, I will say you are correct. It most definitely is a left thing.
While we are at it, the EU parliament showed the selves up didn’t they. Nothing to remember CK, a white conservative but a minutes silence for George Floyd, a convicted criminal, oh sorry a black convicted criminal.
Not yet. Mr Obama is still alive.

For evidence that this isn’t a left thing, read the post of mine that follows the above.

It’s an idiot thing. Not either a right or left.

All this whataboutery concerning George Floyd is merely a distraction. What was important about that case was not the victim, who was no Saint, but that his murderer was a Policeman, yet some seemed to excuse him. It is not in any way comparable.
 
Four-homes' disingenuous posts on the Charlie Kirk murder are beneath contempt.
He brings up Jo Cox. I know of nobody whatsoever who celebrated her murder. People of all political persuasions condemned it unequivocally, whereas numerous people on the Left are openly celebrating the killing of Charlie Kirk. Similarly, nobody celebrated the death of George Floyd.
 
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This is totally incorrect. It’s misinformed at best, though more likely just propaganda.

As this is the US thread I will concentrate the evidence there, but the same applies here. Have you forgotten Jo Cox? Killed by white supremacist Thomas Mair. By the way Jo Cox’s husband and her sister have both spoken out after the murder of Charlie Kirk about the danger of it resulting in even more political violence and death. Just read this. There’s much more, but it’s enough:-


Let's be real here you have cherry picked one tragic UK incident from 2016 to paint the right as inherently violent while ignoring the mountain of evidence showing lefty extremism fueling chaos in the US is straight up deflection.

Jo cox was a heartbreaking loss and no on on the right cheers violence like that like we have seen on the left celebrating the assassination / murder of Charlie Kirk.
The facts do not lie the lefts "mostly peaceful" narrative crumbled under the weight of ther own actions. In 2020 BLM and Antifa riots torched over 2,000 locations looted billions in damages and turned cities into warzones.
 
This is totally incorrect. It’s misinformed at best, though more likely just propaganda.

As this is the US thread I will concentrate the evidence there, but the same applies here. Have you forgotten Jo Cox? Killed by white supremacist Thomas Mair. By the way Jo Cox’s husband and her sister have both spoken out after the murder of Charlie Kirk about the danger of it resulting in even more political violence and death. Just read this. There’s much more, but it’s enough:-

David Amiss?
 
Not yet. Mr Obama is still alive.

For evidence that this isn’t a left thing, read the post of mine that follows the above.

It’s an idiot thing. Not either a right or left.

All this whataboutery concerning George Floyd is merely a distraction. What was important about that case was not the victim, who was no Saint, but that his murderer was a Policeman, yet some seemed to excuse him. It is not in any way comparable.
You know perfectly well I meant evidence of anyone on the right celebrating the assassination of CK. There is none so his assassination celebration is a left thing.
Regarding George Floyd, there was a worldwide pouring out of emotion, MPs taking the knee and the EU holding a minutes silence… why? Do they do this for everyone killed by a Police Officer? No so why for George Floyd? CK was assassinated in an affront to free speech, where was the EUs minute silence?
 
I have to hold my hand up and admit I was wrong. I thought the shooter was going to be trans like the other shooters who tried to assassinate Trump and the one who murdered children at a church a few weeks ago.

It Turns out he had a boyfriend who was trans.

 

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