US Politics

[Common Sense Club]

We are back on this band wagon yet again.

The guy has schizophrenia. He is sick and ought not have been out in society but that’s no excuse. There are no excuses for what happened. The far right’s justification for racism by inventing the existence of anti whiteness doesn’t change that. Nor does it help anything.

The behaviour of the others there is another matter. I guess they were so shocked and fearful they were stunned and incapable of rational thought. It’s only a guess though. I don’t think they were likely to lack compassion for the victim, whatever their race might have been.

No doubt we will shortly be seeing Charlie Kirk’s murder framed as being down to anti whiteness. It’s so sad to see people determined to widen gulfs like this in 2025. We are surely better and wiser than that?

But the guy chose to kill the white female, not any of the black people in the carriage. Black on white = no racism. White on black = racism.

 

[eaglesdare]

But the guy chose to kill the white female, not any of the black people in the carriage. Black on white = no racism. White on black = racism.

And he also said "I got that white girl"

 

[Spindle]

You have lost me. Surely the army should have guns?

Why waste money on guns when knives are just as deadly? (according to your comments)

No brainer to save a fortune.

 

[eaglesdare]

Why waste money on guns when knives are just as deadly? (according to your comments)

No brainer to save a fortune.

You know exactly what I meant.

If guns are banned then people will use other means to harm / kill / threaten.

There was a time when guns were not even invented. We still had wars and murders.

If you disagree with me then that's fine I respect you opinion.

 

[Stirlingsays]

The New York Post has published this photo, allegedly the rifle used in the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
On the face of it this would tend to fly against the rumours from Crowder of tranny anti fascist messaging on the gun equipment.....Scope noted, making the neck shot probably intentional rather than an error from the usual centre mass aim.

Edit: to be fair to Crowder his leak specified these engravings were on the cartridges rather than the gun. So where this lands is yet to be confirmed.




Also a released photo by the Utah Department of Public Safety of the current person of interest.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

The perpetrator was very professional in his approach, which is why the FBI are taking a bit of time and releasing photos of the suspect. They want him as quickly as possible. I think it might be another day or two before they finally get him.
I was wondering if they'd try to take him to trial , or just kill him as a threat when they find him.

 

[Stirlingsays]

The perpetrator was very professional in his approach, which is why the FBI are taking a bit of time and releasing photos of the suspect. They want him as quickly as possible. I think it might be another day or two before they finally get him.
I was wondering if they'd try to take him to trial , or just kill him as a threat when they find him.

They usually kill themselves when cornered or shortly before.

This 'guy' seems to plan reasonably successfully....if we can say it like that.....So the fact that he hasn't been found so far probably relates to that.

 

[puncheon_judy]

The New York Post has published this photo, allegedly the rifle used in the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
On the face of it this would tend to fly against the rumours from Crowder of tranny anti fascist messaging on the gun equipment.....Scope noted, making the neck shot probably intentional rather than an error from the usual centre mass aim.

Edit: to be fair to Crowder his leak specified these engravings were on the cartridges rather than the gun. So where this lands is yet to be confirmed.

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Also a released photo by the Utah Department of Public Safety of the current person of interest.

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Yes at that distance, with the right rifle, you could easily be accurate to within half an inch.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

You assume all of the time, but I guess you don't like this assumption because you are on the left, and deep down know that it's a mad leftie that did this and it makes your gang look s***.

Just be honest for once.

Maybe you don’t realise it but I am not “on the left”. I am a traditional middle of the road voter who believes in tight fiscal policies balanced with social responsibility. Like I believe the bulk of us are at heart. I detest hard left politics just as strongly as I detest hard right.

Sure I make working assumptions on where the balance of probabilities lie but I don’t reach firm conclusions on anything until they are validated.

All I am doing is pointing out the need for restraint and caution to avoid making an awful situation even worse.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

But the guy chose to kill the white female, not any of the black people in the carriage. Black on white = no racism. White on black = racism.

He has schizophrenia! Who knows what was in his head and what motivated him.

I don’t. He lives in his own world surrounded by another world in which racism is endemic. The consequences of which are impossible for us to understand.

 

[eaglesdare]

Have to be completely honest here. After being on the BBS for a few days. Wisbech eagle does not come across as far left as those loons.

 

[georgenorman]

The slaughter of the white girl on the train in a racist attack by a black low-life scumbag and the assassination of a young family man and Christian for expressing common sense political views, have been a bit of a watershed for me. The Left can go f' themselves, I'm sick and tired of their lies, and bull that the likes of four-homes spout. I hope Trump does everything in his power to fight the Left and hope Farage does the same when he gets in.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Have to be completely honest here. After being on the BBS for a few days. Wisbech eagle does not come across as far left as those loons.

Those loons are protected from the kind of logic and feedback we would provide them.

It's a 'safe space' for them.

So they are very free to be stupid without getting ripped a new one as they would here.

As we know any intelligent right winger who can string a few words together gets banned very quickly if they respond.

Goodness knows what Wisbech would be like over there.....though to be honest I think he's probably brighter than most of them.

 

[eaglesdare]

The slaughter of the white girl on the train in a racist attack by a black low-life scumbag and the assassination of a young family man and Christian for expressing common sense political views, have been a bit of a watershed for me. The Left can go f' themselves, I'm sick and tired of their lies, and bull that the likes of four-homes spout. I hope Trump does everything in his power to fight the Left and hope Farage does the same when he gets in.

I agree. This is the moment now where the left dies.

They all seem happy with the assassination. Videos of them not respecting a moment of silence in Congress and the the EU parliament are horrendous.

Videos of people celebrating and running into vigils shouting abuse. It's all so sickening.

 

[Lombardinho]

They usually kill themselves when cornered or shortly before.

This 'guy' seems to plan reasonably successfully....if we can say it like that.....So the fact that he hasn't been found so far probably relates to that.

Have you considered this might be a hoax as in a fake assassination, Stirl?
When the footage gets slowed right down, it's pretty easy to see there's a contraption under his shirt - like they have in the movies!
The ring on his left hand wedding finger jumps onto his pinky finger too.
Trickery at play.

 

[eaglesdare]

Those loons are protected from the kind of logic and feedback we would provide them.

It's a 'safe space' for them.

So they are very free to be stupid without getting ripped a new one as they would here.

As we know any intelligent right winger who can string a few words together gets banned very quickly if they respond.

Goodness knows what Wisbech would be like over there.....though to be honest I think he's probably brighter than most of them.

If I ever wanted to know what blue sky is like I think that site may sum it up.

I don't really know the mods views on this site but they do seem to let us have our opinions without prejudice so fair play to them. Cautions and warnings are rightly given for personally insults.

 

[Common Sense Club]

He has schizophrenia! Who knows what was in his head and what motivated him.

I don’t. He lives in his own world surrounded by another world in which racism is endemic. The consequences of which are impossible for us to understand.

Hence why he should have been put away after one of his many other events. I appreciate that you don’t think racism plays a part but most of us do, irrespective of his mental condition.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Have you considered this might be a hoax as in a fake assassination, Stirl?
When the footage gets slowed right down, it's pretty easy to see there's a contraption under his shirt - like they have in the movies!
The ring on his left hand wedding finger jumps onto his pinky finger too.
Trickery at play.

No, I watched the video as many have. It's not the first time I've seen someone shot and killed, again as many of us have.

It's quite close up.

It's real and he's dead, there's no coming back from that shot.

 

[cryrst]

Proof, or assumption?

I accept it’s the most probable assumption, but it’s unproven.

There are other possibilities and whilst there are nothing should be ruled out.

Maybe people who assume and label anti immigration protesters or non alphabet lovers far right and nazis didn’t help. There’s a cap that fits some on here!

 

[Stirlingsays]

If I ever wanted to know what blue sky is like I think that site may sum it up.

I don't really know the mods views on this site but they do seem to let us have our opinions without prejudice so fair play to them. Cautions and warnings are rightly given for personally insults.

I'd mostly agree.

Hol is in a different league to the bbs on free speech.

It's actually a thing here, not just something for the left.