US Politics

[Badger11]

The reaction of some people to Kirk's murder is really shocking. I don't mean the idiots on social media who celebrated Thatcher's death but the MSM. TMZ has apologised that some of their staff / guests were openly laughing when the news was announced. MSNBC has sacked one of it's presenters for his comments and the scenes in congress were disgusting. All of this hours in some cases minutes after his murder.

Disgraceful.

 

[Willo]

Heartbreaking and devastating news.
His wife and children have lost a loving husband/father. My heart goes out to them and my thoughts and prayers are with them, the rest of his family, and friends, at this sad time.
A dark moment for America.
RIP Charlie.

 

[NMPalace]

The reaction of some people to Kirk's murder is really shocking. I don't mean the idiots on social media who celebrated Thatcher's death but the MSM. TMZ has apologised that some of their staff / guests were openly laughing when the news was announced. MSNBC has sacked one of it's presenters for his comments and the scenes in congress were disgusting. All of this hours in some cases minutes after his murder.

Disgraceful.

the guys comments seemed quite tame IMHO, he just mentioned that Kirk was a divisive figure and that can attract the wrong 'attention'. Maybe this comment, for example

Fact Check: Charlie Kirk once said some gun deaths 'worth it' in order to have Second Amendment

The Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder made the remarks while answering a question during a TPUSA Faith event in April 2023.

uk.news.yahoo.com

For balance quite a few Democrates have been shot recently and barely a comment from the US Govt.

Minnesota House Democrats choose new leader after former Speaker Melissa Hortman killed in political attack

Three months after the loss of their longtime leader Melissa Hortman, who died in a politically motivated attack, Minnesota House Democrats selected state Rep. Zack Stephenson to steer the caucus moving forward.

www.cbsnews.com

Maybe this will be the sensible time to amend the US gun laws, however, we all know this won't happen

 

[georgenorman]

the guys comments seemed quite tame IMHO, he just mentioned that Kirk was a divisive figure and that can attract the wrong 'attention'. Maybe this comment, for example

Fact Check: Charlie Kirk once said some gun deaths 'worth it' in order to have Second Amendment

The Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder made the remarks while answering a question during a TPUSA Faith event in April 2023.

uk.news.yahoo.com

For balance quite a few Democrates have been shot recently and barely a comment from the US Govt.

Minnesota House Democrats choose new leader after former Speaker Melissa Hortman killed in political attack

Three months after the loss of their longtime leader Melissa Hortman, who died in a politically motivated attack, Minnesota House Democrats selected state Rep. Zack Stephenson to steer the caucus moving forward.

www.cbsnews.com

Maybe this will be the sensible time to amend the US gun laws, however, we all know this won't happen

The Left these days are utterly contemptible.

 

[NMPalace]

Black guy (left wing) on Good Morning Britain just now - debating with Michael Gove - saying Kirk was so far right and mentioned the KKK!
Thought many of his comments were way out of line in any event but especially when speaking about a recently deceased person.
One hopes he will be banned from appearing again.

Maybe the 'black guy' is married to a black women and has black daughters and found this comment outrageous

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[eaglesdare]

the guys comments seemed quite tame IMHO, he just mentioned that Kirk was a divisive figure and that can attract the wrong 'attention'. Maybe this comment, for example

Fact Check: Charlie Kirk once said some gun deaths 'worth it' in order to have Second Amendment

The Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder made the remarks while answering a question during a TPUSA Faith event in April 2023.

uk.news.yahoo.com

For balance quite a few Democrates have been shot recently and barely a comment from the US Govt.

Minnesota House Democrats choose new leader after former Speaker Melissa Hortman killed in political attack

Three months after the loss of their longtime leader Melissa Hortman, who died in a politically motivated attack, Minnesota House Democrats selected state Rep. Zack Stephenson to steer the caucus moving forward.

www.cbsnews.com

Maybe this will be the sensible time to amend the US gun laws, however, we all know this won't happen

As always it's a people problem. Not a gun problem. Take away the guns then it's knifes or home made explosives.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

As always it's a people problem. Not a gun problem. Take away the guns then it's knifes or home made explosives.

As they say:
Guns don't kill people.
People kill people.
People with guns.

 

[eaglesdare]

As they say:
Guns don't kill people.
People kill people.
People with guns.

And what do people kill people with in the UK?

 

[Badger11]

the guys comments seemed quite tame IMHO, he just mentioned that Kirk was a divisive figure and that can attract the wrong 'attention'. Maybe this comment, for example

Fact Check: Charlie Kirk once said some gun deaths 'worth it' in order to have Second Amendment

The Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder made the remarks while answering a question during a TPUSA Faith event in April 2023.

uk.news.yahoo.com

For balance quite a few Democrates have been shot recently and barely a comment from the US Govt.

Minnesota House Democrats choose new leader after former Speaker Melissa Hortman killed in political attack

Three months after the loss of their longtime leader Melissa Hortman, who died in a politically motivated attack, Minnesota House Democrats selected state Rep. Zack Stephenson to steer the caucus moving forward.

www.cbsnews.com

Maybe this will be the sensible time to amend the US gun laws, however, we all know this won't happen

I'm not here to defend Charlie Kirk his words will speak for themselves. The gun control argument is pointless as you say.

It is disturbing how so many prominent people have reacted in a disgraceful manner in such a short time. I dislike plenty of Democrats leaders like Bill and Hilary I will not be dancing on their grave though.

This Bi Partisan hatred is only going to lead to further violence the people who hold the levers of power should be toning this down not pouring petrol into the fire. You don't have to give a glowing eulogy to someone you dislike just show a bit of decorum.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

And what do people kill people with in the UK?

I'm agreeing with you.
The first two lines are an NRA slogan and the last shows the foolishness of it.

 

[eaglesdare]

I'm agreeing with you.
The first two lines are an NRA slogan and the last shows the foolishness of it.

Ah I get you now. Sorry I didn't get it before.

 

[georgenorman]

I'm not here to defend Charlie Kirk his words will speak for themselves. The gun control argument is pointless as you say.

It is disturbing how so many prominent people have reacted in a disgraceful manner in such a short time. I dislike plenty of Democrats leaders like Bill and Hilary I will not be dancing on their grave though.

This Bi Partisan hatred is only going to lead to further violence the people who hold the levers of power should be toning this down not pouring petrol into the fire. You don't have to give a glowing eulogy to someone you dislike just show a bit of decorum.

It's getting beyond all that. It's time to take sides, and I'm damn sure whose side I am on.

 

[Badger11]

Ah I get you now. Sorry I didn't get it before.

Guns don't kill people, it's bullets that kill people. (The Simpsons)

 

[Stirlingsays]

For balance quite a few Democrates have been shot recently and barely a comment from the US Govt.

Minnesota House Democrats choose new leader after former Speaker Melissa Hortman killed in political attack

Three months after the loss of their longtime leader Melissa Hortman, who died in a politically motivated attack, Minnesota House Democrats selected state Rep. Zack Stephenson to steer the caucus moving forward.

www.cbsnews.com

Maybe this will be the sensible time to amend the US gun laws, however, we all know this won't happen

Charlie Kirk was a massive figure on the MAGA right (it looked like thousands gathered at that campus) and so of course this is going to hit very hard....in fact this is no doubt going to have quite bad consequences because of how well known he is....likely to be less moderates on the right now.

As for the deaths of these Democrats you mention. I haven't seen any strong evidence that their murder was politically motivated from the right. Didn't the guy who murdered them work for Democrats?

Anyway, I saw many comments condemning these murders from the right actually. As they should be regardless of political motivation from any side or not.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Kirk was a big big figure being groomed for bigger things on the MAGA right. People were even talking about him as a future presidential candidate.

This will hit very very hard on the right.....it's really hit me and I'm not even American. I think many on the left aren't quite getting what emerges from this.

This will harden and polarise the right much more.

Kirk was open to debating the left.....and the left murdered him.

 

[Spindle]

It’s on the Trump thread. I steer well clear of posting on that thread. I do find some of the other threads helpful and certainly enjoy the away end 😂. You were mentioned in despatches ( in fact somequite supportive of you), although one comment quite disgusting, that’s why I asked about your brother.

PM me a screeny/transcript - I'm curious

 

[Spindle]

The reaction of some people to Kirk's murder is really shocking. I don't mean the idiots on social media who celebrated Thatcher's death but the MSM. TMZ has apologised that some of their staff / guests were openly laughing when the news was announced. MSNBC has sacked one of it's presenters for his comments and the scenes in congress were disgusting. All of this hours in some cases minutes after his murder.

Disgraceful.

I saw the video. The bullet hit his out carotid and from that there's no coming back. He would've fallen unconcious immediately from lack of blood to the brain because that one comes straight off the aorta. It's absolute horror it really is. They labelled him as a racist and a nazi but could never show why other than his conservative stance, they got very angry when shot down and made fools of. Who are the fascists in this? Those murdering political opponents in cold blood.

I understand that the killer is still at large? I'm no shooter but I am a golfer, and 200 yards is a fair distance to hit so accurately it seems to me. This individual was a good shot or lucky, I don't know if it was one shot or not, but this was no Barrett M82, from the 'click' sound it appears far lower calibre????

 

[eaglesdare]

Kirk was a big big figure being groomed for bigger things on the MAGA right. People were even talking about him as a future presidential candidate.

This will hit very very hard on the right.....it's really hit me and I'm not even American. I think many on the left aren't quite getting what emerges from this.

This will harden and polarise the right much more.

Kirk was open to debating the left.....and the left murdered him.

You are absolutely right. I'm honestly still in shock over it this morning. I watched some of his videos last year during the election so I was familiar with the name.

This could be the moment where the left have crossed a line.

Seeing videos of people celebrating the shooting and especially right after the moment in the crowd was sickening.

It's plain to see now and no hiding about about it the left kill the unborn, sterilise and mutilate, abuse children, and murder anyone who doesn't fit in with their world views.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I saw the video. The bullet hit his out carotid and from that there's no coming back. He would've fallen unconcious immediately from lack of blood to the brain because that one comes straight off the aorta. It's absolute horror it really is. They labelled him as a racist and a nazi but could never show why other than his conservative stance, they got very angry when shot down and made fools of. Who are the fascists in this? Those murdering political opponents in cold blood.

I understand that the killer is still at large?

Yep, he would have known what was happening for about a second and then fading out quickly.

His wife and two small children were in the crowd.

Someone stole some of his maga hats from the very table he sat at, not long after the murder.

His killer is probably being protected.

They must have footage of....probably him....getting access to the roof and of escaping and leaving the scene. Dressed in black apparently.

 

[Spindle]

As always it's a people problem. Not a gun problem. Take away the guns then it's knifes or home made explosives.

Let's take it the other way then with that logic. Hand out ManPADS to everyone and we can all be safe.

Get a grip, that's an NRA argument.