Tommy Robinson

[Wisbech Eagle]

Social constructs are social constructs.....waffle is a worthless currency of the mind and you sure know how to waffle.

Race is real and it's flesh and blood.

And you are full of it....in multiple meanings.

Race is real and and the product of thousands of years of geographical reproduction within localised populations. You deny reality and use wordplay.

Dear reader, if you are objective but still in any half way entertain this guy's argument. Remember his argument that race is purely a social construct the next time you see the Olympic 100 metres final line up.....Or indeed, the Olympic swimming finals.

Race may have spread out boundaries but it's real in basic categorization terms.....The atmosphere may have a difficult to spot boundary and also be catorgised into different sections....but it's just as obvious that it's there.

It just isn’t! You are so submerged by your prejudice that you refuse to acknowledge the scientific consensus because it doesn’t match your narrative.

Social difference exists. Regional ancestry exists. Both can contribute to athletic performance.

Race is a social construct which needs to be put in a box and ignored so that the real issues can be objectively examined. Try reading this:-

Race Is a Social Construct, Scientists Argue

Racial categories are weak proxies for genetic diversity and need to be phased out

www.scientificamerican.com

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Still makes no sense whatsoever in the context of the original response!

That you seem to think I would change my mind if I just went to other places assumes I don’t.

If I was to pontificate on sorting out corruption in the Philippines don't you think it would help if I'd actually been there rather than just saying it's a question of educating them not to take backhanders? It's not so much about changing your mind as informing your opinion which at the moment is based on nothing but wishful thinking.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Perfectly natural for the second largest city in the country and a third of the boroughs in the capital to have a minority of the indigenous population?

In modern Britain, it is. Minorities tend to gather together in the major cities. As a whole our non indigenous population is around 18%. Which is broadly similar to the other major European nations, but much lower than the USA where, by some measurements, it is 40%.

 

[Stirlingsays]

It just isn’t! You are so submerged by your prejudice that you refuse to acknowledge the scientific consensus because it doesn’t match your narrative.

Social difference exists. Regional ancestry exists. Both can contribute to athletic performance.

Race is a social construct which needs to be put in a box and ignored so that the real issues can be objectively examined. Try reading this:-

Race Is a Social Construct, Scientists Argue

Racial categories are weak proxies for genetic diversity and need to be phased out

www.scientificamerican.com

The truth isn't 'prejudice', it's the truth.

For anyone who hasn't read those arguments Corny presents. They are politically motivated by far left institutions. I'm old enough to remember when those institutions weren't pushing those ridiculous wordplay assertions.

As I stated race is real and has a mass of evidence to support it. Companies can tell someone's race without even having met them just by looking at their DNA. Yet you apparently don't think that's real.

The Olympic 100 final line ups will always be dominated by people with west African genetics as those on average have the fastest twitch fibers.

Recent Era (1980-2024): ~98-100% Black in most finals. No white man has reached a men's final since 1980 (Allan Wells, boycott-affected); Su Bingtian (China, Asian) was the first non-Black finalist in 40+ years (2020, 8th place).

People of European descent make up roughly a bit under 10 percent of the world's population, yet they have historically claimed 80-90% of swimming medals in recent Olympics (e.g., in Tokyo 2020, about 85% of finalists in pool events were white).

This is because Europeans have favourable genetics for swimming in terms of bone density and body composition lengths over other races.

You come on here and push falsehoods, you do it on many different topics and the denial of race is just one.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

If I was to pontificate on sorting out corruption in the Philippines don't you think it would help if I'd actually been there rather than just saying it's a question of educating them not to take backhanders? It's not so much about changing your mind as informing your opinion which at the moment is based on nothing but wishful thinking.

You can regard it as wishful if that gives you comfort. I take comfort that at least you acknowledge it as thinking.

Thinking being entirely absent from many of the emotional attitudes on display here and, regrettably elsewhere too.

You don’t need to be immersed in issues to be able to rationalise solutions. Indeed those who are can be so personally invested in them as to be incapable of an objective analysis.

Standing back and quietly observing a wide panorama delivers a better understanding of the whole than standing too close.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

In modern Britain, it is. Minorities tend to gather together in the major cities. As a whole our non indigenous population is around 18%. Which is broadly similar to the other major European nations, but much lower than the USA where, by some measurements, it is 40%.

Not much consolation to those who've seen the culture of their home city completely changed in 50 years. Still, it hasn't happened in Cornwall where the local culture is apparently so much more important than anyway else.

 

[georgenorman]

You can regard it as wishful if that gives you comfort. I take comfort that at least you acknowledge it as thinking.

Thinking being entirely absent from many of the emotional attitudes on display here and, regrettably elsewhere too.

You don’t need to be immersed in issues to be able to rationalise solutions. Indeed those who are can be so personally invested in them as to be incapable of an objective analysis.

Standing back and quietly observing a wide panorama delivers a better understanding of the whole than standing too close.

If only ...

 

[Teddy Eagle]

You can regard it as wishful if that gives you comfort. I take comfort that at least you acknowledge it as thinking.

Thinking being entirely absent from many of the emotional attitudes on display here and, regrettably elsewhere too.

You don’t need to be immersed in issues to be able to rationalise solutions. Indeed those who are can be so personally invested in them as to be incapable of an objective analysis.

Standing back and quietly observing a wide panorama delivers a better understanding of the whole than standing too close.

Standing back and quietly observing is all very well but telling others who are living the experience that they're wrong isn't.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The truth isn't 'prejudice', it's the truth.

For anyone who hasn't read those arguments Corny presents. They are politically motivated by far left institutions. I'm old enough to remember when those institutions weren't pushing those ridiculous wordplay assertions.

As I stated race is real and has a mass of evidence to support it. Companies can tell someone's race without even having met them just by looking at their DNA. Yet you apparently don't think that's real.

The Olympic 100 final line ups will always be dominated by people with west African genetics as those on average have the fastest twitch fibers.

Recent Era (1980-2024): ~98-100% Black in most finals. No white man has reached a men's final since 1980 (Allan Wells, boycott-affected); Su Bingtian (China, Asian) was the first non-Black finalist in 40+ years (2020, 8th place).

People of European descent make up roughly a bit under 10 percent of the world's population, yet they have historically claimed 80-90% of swimming medals in recent Olympics (e.g., in Tokyo 2020, about 85% of finalists in pool events were white).

This is because Europeans have favourable genetics for swimming in terms of bone density and body composition lengths over other races.

You come on here and push falsehoods, you do it on many different topics and the denial of race is just one.

It’s not me denying your approach! I am not an expert on genetics any more than I suspect you are.

The difference is that I trust those who ARE experts, whereas you, as you always do, think you know better.

You are making the same mistake that the doctors described in the following article were making. A mistake that is regrettably very common, but still a mistake which absolutely must be corrected because it is leading us to the wrong place:-

Race Is Real, But It’s Not Genetic

For centuries, socially defined notions of “race” have shaped human lives around the globe—but the category has no biological foundation.

www.sapiens.org

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Standing back and quietly observing is all very well but telling others who are living the experience that they're wrong isn't.

It would be wrong to deny their experience but not wrong to point out when it colours their ability to find objective solutions.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It would be wrong to deny their experience but not wrong to point out when it colours their ability to find objective solutions.

Objectivity doesn't equal practicality or feasibility.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Not much consolation to those who've seen the culture of their home city completely changed in 50 years. Still, it hasn't happened in Cornwall where the local culture is apparently so much more important than anyway else.

I didn’t suggest it was. I moved away more than 60 years ago, but not because it had changed. I moved through choice as I found I prefer a rural environment. Something that has not changed.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Objectivity doesn't equal practicality or feasibility.

Not always, but it can and is the only place to start looking.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I didn’t suggest it was. I moved away more than 60 years ago, but not because it had changed. I moved through choice as I found I prefer a rural environment. Something that has not changed.

That's alright then.

 

[Mattconrov]

If the modern world teaches you anything it is the fact that everything is possible, certainly I would not say they are married and therefore doing XYZ it could be a very strange off kilter arrangement, you never know what goes on in a marriage/relationship . I really hope this hasn't opened Pandora's Box I do not want to know, I will leave all that stuff to

Just a tip for you buddy.

Try being clear and precise with what you want to say or question.

You are being very disingenuous with your guessing around a subject.

Have some balls like Tommy and be direct.

I will add this on the subject to help you understand that black people can have the same views as whites. This might amaze you.

My wife likes Trump, Farage, voted brexit and actually convinced me to vote Reform in the last election.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Not always, but it can and is the only place to start looking.

The only place? That might be a comforting thought but it's just not true. There's a reason that football clubs don't appoint managers who've never seen a game.

 

[cryrst]

Just a tip for you buddy.

Try being clear and precise with what you want to say or question.

You are being very disingenuous with your guessing around a subject.

Have some balls like Tommy and be direct.

I’ve solved the beak issue 👌

 

[Stirlingsays]

It’s not me denying your approach! I am not an expert on genetics any more than I suspect you are.

The difference is that I trust those who ARE experts, whereas you, as you always do, think you know better.

You are making the same mistake that the doctors described in the following article were making. A mistake that is regrettably very common, but still a mistake which absolutely must be corrected because it is leading us to the wrong place:-

Race Is Real, But It’s Not Genetic

For centuries, socially defined notions of “race” have shaped human lives around the globe—but the category has no biological foundation.

www.sapiens.org

In my experience the group most skeptical of people calling themselves 'experts' are those with PhDs.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

In my experience the group most skeptical of people calling themselves 'experts' are those with PhDs.

Usually with good reason.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Just a tip for you buddy.

Try being clear and precise with what you want to say or question.

You are being very disingenuous with your guessing around a subject.

Have some balls like Tommy and be direct.

I will add this on the subject to help you understand that black people can have the same views as whites. This might amaze you.

My wife likes Trump, Farage, voted brexit and actually convinced me to vote Reform in the last election.

I am not the least amazed and have no idea why you think I would be.

I am fully aware that people are all just people and hold views as individuals and not by any classifications that others try to pin to them. Indeed if you have followed my recent comments you will have realised that. I reject the concept that people are defined by the colour of their skin and have met some folk with very dark complexions who are avid Trump supporters and as right wing as any on here.

Y-L doesn't have balls. Like Trump he is by nature a bully and bullies are, at heart, cowards who are incapable of recognising their own frailities.

I could give you some tips, but I won't. Firstly because you seem unlikely to listen, let alone heed them and secondly because I try to be polite.