Tommy Robinson

[Wisbech Eagle]

So TR is on trial for an offence under the Terrorism Act, for not letting police unlock his mobile phone while legitimately and legally using the Channel Tunnel in July 2024

Tommy Robinson refused to give police phone Pin to protect 'journalistic material'

The far-right activist was charged under the Terrorism Act over an incident at the Channel Tunnel in July 2024.

www.bbc.co.uk

So I was wondering in which thread to post, because this yet another totally obvious example of the politicising of the UK police. The officer knew it was Tommy Robinson he was stopping, for some blah blah reason. The officer had no reason to want access to TRs phone, yet he requested the PIN. when TR refused, BANG, you're on a Terrorism charge.

I've made mind up already, especially after the tube fiasco and the fella on the floor.
It'll be interesting to see how the judge rules on this.

Of course it isn’t!

The guy has previous. Any police officer seeing him anywhere doing anything would immediately be suspicious. Just as I would be. If he asked to see his phone, and it was refused, those suspicions would increase. Being on route to, or from, France could, depending on the circumstances, raise questions about terrorism.

If he had nothing to hide why refuse? I have never been asked to show my phone but would in an instant. It’s only people like him who get asked. I would abandon the need to invoke terrorism suspicion and make it compulsory to release your PIN if requested by an officer of the law. Only criminals need to fear that.

Now it will be up to a Court to decide if the request was lawful. So his defence will be heard.

 

[Spindle]

A tailored response of utter bias from you

 

[PalazioVecchio]

My favourite Paisley quotes:
"Save Ulster from sodomy!" - A slogan in a 1970s and 80s campaign against legalizing homosexuality.
(An unsuccessful campaign by all accounts)

we are going to miss 'Freedom of Speech' after its gone. Even just for the comedy value.

Ian Paisley had visions of the cops running around arresting Larry Grayson & Kenneth Williams. Never in Paisleys wildest nightmares would he have envisioned himself getting his collar felt by the Old Bill. Hate-speech.

 

[Common Sense Club]

Of course it isn’t!

The guy has previous. Any police officer seeing him anywhere doing anything would immediately be suspicious. Just as I would be. If he asked to see his phone, and it was refused, those suspicions would increase. Being on route to, or from, France could, depending on the circumstances, raise questions about terrorism.

If he had nothing to hide why refuse? I have never been asked to show my phone but would in an instant. It’s only people like him who get asked. I would abandon the need to invoke terrorism suspicion and make it compulsory to release your PIN if requested by an officer of the law. Only criminals need to fear that.

Now it will be up to a Court to decide if the request was lawful. So his defence will be heard.

Being on route to, or from, France could, depending on the circumstances, raise questions about terrorism.…he should use a dinghy; no need for any need for cooperation…

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

A tailored response of utter bias from you

Yes I am biased.

I am biased in favour those who abide by the law over those who don’t.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Being on route to, or from, France could, depending on the circumstances, raise questions about terrorism.…he should use a dinghy; no need for any need for cooperation…

I would guess if he boarded a dinghy in France he would be unlikely to get off in England, but should he make it would be arrested for sure. He frequently tries it on but impersonating an asylum seeker would never work.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

we are going to miss 'Freedom of Speech' after its gone. Even just for the comedy value.

Ian Paisley had visions of the cops running around arresting Larry Grayson & Kenneth Williams. Never in Paisleys wildest nightmares would he have envisioned himself getting his collar felt by the Old Bill. Hate-speech.

He wasn’t just arrested, he was jailed for what today would have been regarded as hate speech. That was 50 years ago. So it’s not new.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

He wasn’t just arrested, he was jailed for what today would have been regarded as hate speech. That was 50 years ago. So it’s not new.

Wasn't he jailed for unlawful assembly rather than for anything he said? Most of what he said would be regarded as hate speech now.

 

[georgenorman]

A tailored response of utter bias from you

As per usual.

 

[Spiderman]

I would guess if he boarded a dinghy in France he would be unlikely to get off in England, but should he make it would be arrested for sure. He frequently tries it on but impersonating an asylum seeker would never work.

Well it has for thousands of others over the years

 

[ASCPFC]

Of course it isn’t!

The guy has previous. Any police officer seeing him anywhere doing anything would immediately be suspicious. Just as I would be. If he asked to see his phone, and it was refused, those suspicions would increase. Being on route to, or from, France could, depending on the circumstances, raise questions about terrorism.

If he had nothing to hide why refuse? I have never been asked to show my phone but would in an instant. It’s only people like him who get asked. I would abandon the need to invoke terrorism suspicion and make it compulsory to release your PIN if requested by an officer of the law. Only criminals need to fear that.

Now it will be up to a Court to decide if the request was lawful. So his defence will be heard.

I wouldn't show my phone nor give a f*** what they did about it. I doubt I'm the only one.

 

[beak]

I’m not necessarily bothered about his criminal record, donations etc, but more about bullsh1t or contradictions of TR. What is interesting is that the white boy who held the Syrian boy down while forcing water onto and into him has a brother who was a member of the NF or a similar group. TR never mentioned this.

But what this video doesn’t explain is that the judge at the Syrian schoolboy case ignored and dismissed that all 12 witnesses (7 teachers including the head teacher + 5 pupils including one now studying law at uni) as "liars" and stated "sometimes people lie for no reason". Two teachers admitted on hidden video that they were forced to sign NDAS and were paid off by Kirklees Council.

There is also a case on one of TR’s videos when TR was asked by a white teenage girl I think it was who claimed she was groomed by a Muslim man up north. TR went to investigate this and immediately alarm bells were ringing. He gained entry into the Muslim man’s house with his family and also investigated the matter locally. He concluded that the girl was lying so didn’t take it any further. While he was in the area a young white male verbally attacked TR so TR physically assaulted him after warning him to go away. The young male’s father was a wealthy man with links to far left politics.

I would be absolutely useless as an American Policeman as I like to be in posession of the Full facts before I shoot,Tommy Robinson would not be a reliable witness to tying up his own shoe laces. All incidents have nulti versions.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Wasn't he jailed for unlawful assembly rather than for anything he said? Most of what he said would be regarded as hate speech now.

It’s a long time ago so I had to look it up. He was jailed for organising the stopping of a legal civil rights march, with people armed with nail impregnated cudgels. I don’t suppose what they were saying was infused with love either!

Actually he was a man who is an example of how getting to know others on a personal level can change attitudes.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Well it has for thousands of others over the years

He would though tend to stand out wouldn’t he!

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The guy will be the subject of harassment forever because he is a perceived threat to the establishment.

They obviously don't want to kill someone like him because no one will believe a suicide or an accident.

What nonsense.

He will be watched for sure but not because of any threat to the “establishment”.

He will be watched because of the very obvious threat he poses to the peace and the rule of law.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

A few things in TRs favour.
Firstly, he seems to have a Security team available. Protection from extremists. However, when you're up against the whole UK police force, then there's little a security team can do.
However , TR is a switched on guy and knows how to not implicate himself when questioned. Further more, I understand Elon Musk is financing TRs legal team, so hopefully he's got a top team in court.
It's already got the strong smell of stitch-up, and it's not a great look for the police or the prosecution.

If that’s true it just confirms how poor Musk’s political judgement is.

For his own sake, let alone the sake of his business interests, he needs to get his hands out of politics because his brain isn’t suited to that world.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I wouldn't show my phone nor give a f*** what they did about it. I doubt I'm the only one.

You might find yourself spending a night or two at his Majesty’s pleasure, if in the UK, whilst they jail break your phone or obtain a Court Order compelling cooperation. It’s never worth it.

 

[ASCPFC]

You might find yourself spending a night or two at his Majesty’s pleasure, if in the UK, whilst they jail break your phone or obtain a Court Order compelling cooperation. It’s never worth it.

I think it's the same law here. But I could be wrong.You'd never see any police anyway so it's no big deal. They have motorists to fine and criminals to ignore.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

I think it's the same law here. But I could be wrong.You'd never see any police anyway so it's no big deal. They have motorists to fine and criminals to ignore.

In the banana Republic ? certainly Road-cops are only something that you see on the telly. A Red traffic light is only there for decoration. And the little green man ? at any pedestrian crossing...... translates into "now you are legally allowed to jaywalk, but still check that a white Ford Transit is not hurtling past at a hundred. And even if he stops, the invisible motorbike behind him, will probably duck past and flatten you"

Seems to happen everyday in Ireland, but the UK also gets some dodgy drivers.

Driver who killed jogger faces jail - if he returns from Pakistan

Rashid Ali (pictured left), 30, was travelling at 40mph in a 20mph zone when he hit Jack Ryan (pictured right), 29, while he was out for a run in January 2021.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Speeding driver who killed jogger in Battersea faces jail if he returns to UK

Rashid Ali, 30, was going twice the 20mph speed limit when his Range Rover Sport struck marketing executive Jack Patrick Ryan

www.standard.co.uk

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

In the banana Republic ? certainly Road-cops are only something that you see on the telly. A Red traffic light is only there for decoration. And the little green man ? at any pedestrian crossing...... translates into "now you are legally allowed to jaywalk, but still check that a white Ford Transit is not hurtling past at a hundred. And even if he stops, the invisible motorbike behind him, will probably duck past and flatten you"

Seems to happen everyday in Ireland, but the UK also gets some dodgy drivers.

Driver who killed jogger faces jail - if he returns from Pakistan

Rashid Ali (pictured left), 30, was travelling at 40mph in a 20mph zone when he hit Jack Ryan (pictured right), 29, while he was out for a run in January 2021.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Speeding driver who killed jogger in Battersea faces jail if he returns to UK

Rashid Ali, 30, was going twice the 20mph speed limit when his Range Rover Sport struck marketing executive Jack Patrick Ryan

www.standard.co.uk

Don’t they have cameras in Ireland?

Gone are the days we get ticketed by actual policemen. Even the mobile cameras are operated automatically these days and just parked by a support worker for an hour or two.