The Politics of 'Climate-change'

So we are paying billions to be a World leader (🤣) in reaching net zero targets. Why then is Heathrow expanding? Today we have been told that, after years of legal challenges, Gatwick have been given permission to build a second runway. This will increase passenger numbers from 43 million to 70 million. How very net zero of us.
This will also involve the destruction of an ancient woodland and possibly a nearby village ( not confirmed).
 
Tax money to oil and gas dwarfs renewables, always has, but we never hear a word from you on that.

If we became a world leader in renewables it would be amazing business for the UK, but we missed the boat on it decades ago (fwiw I was calling for us to do just that 25 years ago)
 
Spiderman said:
So we are paying billions to be a World leader (🤣) in reaching net zero targets. Why then is Heathrow expanding? Today we have been told that, after years of legal challenges, Gatwick have been given permission to build a second runway. This will increase passenger numbers from 43 million to 70 million. How very net zero of us.
This will also involve the destruction of an ancient woodland and possibly a nearby village ( not confirmed).
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Eventually planes will fly on a couple of Duracell batteries ( other brands available).
 
Spindle said:
Tax money to oil and gas dwarfs renewables, always has, but we never hear a word from you on that.

If we became a world leader in renewables it would be amazing business for the UK, but we missed the boat on it decades ago (fwiw I was calling for us to do just that 25 years ago)
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? If this is aimed at me, I’m not sure I see your point. Do these expansions go against our net zero crusade or not? How do you know whether I have said anything about oil and gas tax?
 
Spindle said:
Tax money to oil and gas dwarfs renewables, always has, but we never hear a word from you on that.

If we became a world leader in renewables it would be amazing business for the UK, but we missed the boat on it decades ago (fwiw I was calling for us to do just that 25 years ago)
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Maybe because they employ a whole lot more who pay tax and spend money.
 
Spiderman said:
So we are paying billions to be a World leader (🤣) in reaching net zero targets. Why then is Heathrow expanding? Today we have been told that, after years of legal challenges, Gatwick have been given permission to build a second runway. This will increase passenger numbers from 43 million to 70 million. How very net zero of us.
This will also involve the destruction of an ancient woodland and possibly a nearby village ( not confirmed).
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Because the rules only apply to the plebs.

The world is heating up regardless of human pollution. We need to adapt to it, not have poverty forced upon us in a futile pursuit to make Britain a carbon free zone. It's a nonsense.

Cheaper air conditioning and compulsory fitting in new builds might help.
 
eaglesdare said:
The heat this week felt very different to previous "heat waves"
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Pheew, it's a scorcher.
Not sure I noticed anything different, apart from the weather reports. No pictures of ladies in bikinis, and kids eating high calorie ice-creams. Now sponsored by bottled water and suncreams
 
This is how it is.

A big 'f you' to the masses.

Fifa president Gianni Infantino has attended 24 matches in just over two weeks all across North America at this summer's World Cup, clocking up thousands of air miles.

The tournament is spread over three countries - the US, Canada and Mexico - with 16 host cities, and there are more matches than ever as the group stage has been expanded.

In Fifa's 2026 World Cup sustainability and human rights strategy, the president said: "Whether we speak about climate, human rights, diseases or disabilities, we are committed to play our part."
 
Spiderman said:
? If this is aimed at me, I’m not sure I see your point. Do these expansions go against our net zero crusade or not? How do you know whether I have said anything about oil and gas tax?
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Well have you?

I dunno, but if you hadn't then maybe you should be more annoyed at that than the minor damage limitation that you are fighting against.

We are f***ed btw.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
Because the rules only apply to the plebs.

The world is heating up regardless of human pollution. We need to adapt to it, not have poverty forced upon us in a futile pursuit to make Britain a carbon free zone. It's a nonsense.

Cheaper air conditioning and compulsory fitting in new builds might help.
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It is not regardless. temperature follows CO2 levels. It's a direct causation, and arguing otherwise is no different to arguing that the earth is flat.
 
Spindle said:
Labour intensive subsidy. Sort of like benefit money for nothing then. Dreadfully inefficient.
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Yup can’t argue with that but it’s how it works. Why would they invest for little to no return in saving dolphins.
Now invest in oil and tax and returns generally are huge. Gas is the cleanest fossil fuel. Why don’t hmg pay to give better boilers for everyone. Probably reduce co2 by 30% on those instantly.
 
Sorry but it's not the cheapest by any means, nowhere near. And that's without adding in the increasing costs of bigger and greater natural disasters (no not earthquakes)
 
Spindle said:
Well have you?

I dunno, but if you hadn't then maybe you should be more annoyed at that than the minor damage limitation that you are fighting against.

We are f***ed btw.
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I have actually. It may be a minor issue to some but to many it is somewhat a bigger issue
 
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