The Politics of 'Climate-change'

[Wisbech Eagle]

OK, if aeroplanes don't make a negative contribution to climate change there's nothing to see here.
Maybe one of these experts will be as effective as Thomas Midgley.

Who suggested they didn’t? Lots of things do and working to eliminate, or minimise, their impact is what we, collectively, are doing. Meanwhile life goes on.

It’s ensuring we all support these efforts, and not dismiss them in the way some do, which is the subject and the only thing of importantance. Not the individual contributions or the cynical comments of a pedant.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Well they have added more routes there from my local airport 🙄

Aer lingus have also announced new routes there.

Aer Lingus have had a daily flight from Newquay to and from Dublin for some years too. It offers the possibility of flying from Dublin to the USA thus cutting out the need to travel to London and fly a greater distance.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Who suggested they didn’t? Lots of things do and working to eliminate, or minimise, their impact is what we, collectively, are doing. Meanwhile life goes on.

It’s ensuring we all support these efforts, and not dismiss them in the way some do, which is the subject and the only thing of importantance. Not the individual contributions or the cynical comments of a pedant.

Pointing out the incompatibility of having a net zero target whilst approving thousands of extra flights is hardly pedantry but since it's not a conspiracy theory or from the Daily Mail you can fall back on that accusation from your grab bag of get out clauses.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Pointing out the incompatibility of having a net zero target whilst approving thousands of extra flights is hardly pedantry but since it's not a conspiracy theory or from the Daily Mail you can fall back on that accusation from your grab bag of get out clauses.

If it’s not incompatible it is?

Who is to determine that? Someone posting on a football website or those paid to study it?

In any transition there are likely to be steps backward as well as forward. We need to maintain life and expectations as best we can and take everybody with us or risk them turning against the whole process. The risk of that is clearly evident right now.

The important thing is that the target and direction is clear. Not nit picking over details. Only if we fail to find the way to make air travel cleaner will reducing it become an imperative.

 

[eaglesdare]

Aer Lingus have had a daily flight from Newquay to and from Dublin for some years too. It offers the possibility of flying from Dublin to the USA thus cutting out the need to travel to London and fly a greater distance.

Not from Belfast tho 😉

 

[Teddy Eagle]

If it’s not incompatible it is?

Who is to determine that? Someone posting on a football website or those paid to study it?

In any transition there are likely to be steps backward as well as forward. We need to maintain life and expectations as best we can and take everybody with us or risk them turning against the whole process. The risk of that is clearly evident right now.

The important thing is that the target and direction is clear. Not nit picking over details. Only if we fail to find the way to make air travel cleaner will reducing it become an imperative.

Twisting yourself into a pretzel in an attempt to justify your omniscience is all very well but this makes no sense at all.

 

[the silurian]

If it’s not incompatible it is?

Who is to determine that? Someone posting on a football website or those paid to study it?

In any transition there are likely to be steps backward as well as forward. We need to maintain life and expectations as best we can and take everybody with us or risk them turning against the whole process. The risk of that is clearly evident right now.

The important thing is that the target and direction is clear. Not nit picking over details. Only if we fail to find the way to make air travel cleaner will reducing it become an imperative.

Electric airplanes????

 

[palace_in_frogland]

Untrue.

They have been flying to Newquay for some years. With an aircraft based in Spain. Much better for the environment than all the additional journeys to London or Bristol needed prior to this.

What does this mean? Which particular aircraft are you referring to?

 

[the silurian]

100,000 extra flights a year.......11.4 flights an hour 24/7.....not very eco is it?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Electric airplanes????

It’s being worked on! So is the use of hydrogen and SAF, sustainable aircraft fuel, along with hybrid systems to use all at different points of the flight.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

What does this mean? Which particular aircraft are you referring to?

Ryanair Boeing 737 max

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

100,000 extra flights a year.......11.4 flights an hour 24/7.....not very eco is it?

If all extra, using current technology, probably not. If replacing other flights elsewhere or using new technology it could be.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Twisting yourself into a pretzel in an attempt to justify your omniscience is all very well but this makes no sense at all.

I regret you don’t understand although I suspect you could if you made the effort to.

 

[eaglesdare]

I got an email there saying southern railway have increased fares 4.6 percent.

Also looks like tube fares are going up too

Soon it will be cheaper and more convenient to pay the ULEZ fine that get a train....

 

[palace_in_frogland]

Ryanair Boeing 737 max

Yes, they have some of those, but which is the one, based in Spain, that flies into Newquay?

 

[Eagleman13]

Yes, they have some of those, but which is the one, based in Spain, that flies into Newquay?

Ryanair from Alicante & Malaga(that i know of)

 

[dreamwaverider]

Who suggested they didn’t? Lots of things do and working to eliminate, or minimise, their impact is what we, collectively, are doing. Meanwhile life goes on.

It’s ensuring we all support these efforts, and not dismiss them in the way some do, which is the subject and the only thing of importantance. Not the individual contributions or the cynical comments of a pedant.

The vast majority of the planet do nothing to actively support climate change control.

 

[the silurian]

If all extra, using current technology, probably not. If replacing other flights elsewhere or using new technology it could be.

The press I read specifically stated " an extra 100000 flights a year...
I don't think I wanna get on an electric airplane, I quite like the ones I've just been on, love the smell of aviation fuel in the morning..

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I regret you don’t understand although I suspect you could if you made the effort to.

No need to regret anything. I would explain why but that would bring allegations of cynicism and pedantry which would be unbearable.

 

[Stirlingsays]

The vast majority of the planet do nothing to actively support climate change control.

It's a weird name to call a football team anyway.

Wearing green and playing in sandals with lentils instead of oranges at half time....they deserve all the booing they get.