"The only way to get rid of them will be to kill every single one of them."
Would not say that is probably a bit stronger than ‘dodgy’?
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The bbc, again.
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"The only way to get rid of them will be to kill every single one of them."
Would not say that is probably a bit stronger than ‘dodgy’?
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As our learned friend from Cornwall would say: 'selective quotes', 'nuance', 'context', 'rush to judgement' - are these people agent provocateurs, are they paid non-diverse actors, it all a fabrication?
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You're a bit weirdly interested, this is a legal organisation.....though I get the impression that like a lot of leftists you'd like to ban it.....despite, as I mentioned, the double standard that would produce.
No, I'm not a member of any political organization, however I do follow people like Laura Towler, PA's second in command and wife of the guy put in jail by our ruling authoritarians for putting stickers they don't like onto lamp-posts....proving, once again that this country has fallen considerably down the freedom pecking order that we were once an exemplar for.
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I'm not like you Dan, if someone says something stupid in private I don't go all Stalin on their arse as if they are actually about to pick up a shotgun and kill people. These comments were obtained by false and dishonest means, politically motivated ones. People should know the difference between idle talk and someone actually planning something. As far as I'm aware no one from PA has actually ever done anything remotely like this.
People say stupid stuff in pubs and workplaces every day. I don't like the world you seem to want for people....Do you want stitches like the Soviets had? People scared to speak their minds if it differs from your politics?
PA aren't some organisation gearing up for 'race war' they just aren't....I don't agree with all of their positions but I know they make a point of keeping away from violent situations exactly because they know the state will use any excuse......just as they did here.
It's why they kept away from the Southport demonstrations even though they were obviously angry about the whole thing and with the people who have enabled this to happen.
And who have manipulated the truth about it I might add.
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Quite interesting some of these people:
“At a 2006 BNP organisers conference in Blackpool, Smith was one of the main critics of Collett, and his then ally Dave Hannam, for inappropriate behaviour with 14- and 15-year-old girls. It was Smith who obtained video footage from one of the girls. While persuading them not to go to the press, he used the footage to urge disciplinary action against Collett.
When BNP leader Nick Griffin eventually sided with Collett over a series of scandals, Smith was co leader of an attempted coup that split the party in December 2007. Many observers inside and outside PA were surprised when Collett and Smith buried the hatchet, and Smith accepted the same job title in PA (national admin officer) he had held in Griffin’s BNP.
What this actually shows is not Collett’s magnanimity, but a continuing lack of talent and experience within the British far right. In fact, the real surprise of the latest PA split is not that Smith has proven disloyal, but that (so far) his old ally from BNP days, PA’s Eastern region organiser Steve Blake, has remained loyal to Collett.
Also backing Collett are his deputy Laura Tyrie (alias Laura Towler) and her husband, Yorkshire regional organiser Sam Melia, as well as another PA power couples, Newcastle auctioneer Phoebe Hoare and fellow North East England regional organiser Steven Wilson.”
The CPS ruling on her husband and backer of someone who inappropriately behaves with 14 and 15 year old girls here for anyone interested:
Stirlingsays
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Quite interesting some of these people:
“At a 2006 BNP organisers conference in Blackpool, Smith was one of the main critics of Collett, and his then ally Dave Hannam, for inappropriate behaviour with 14- and 15-year-old girls. It was Smith who obtained video footage from one of the girls. While persuading them not to go to the press, he used the footage to urge disciplinary action against Collett.
When BNP leader Nick Griffin eventually sided with Collett over a series of scandals, Smith was co leader of an attempted coup that split the party in December 2007. Many observers inside and outside PA were surprised when Collett and Smith buried the hatchet, and Smith accepted the same job title in PA (national admin officer) he had held in Griffin’s BNP.
What this actually shows is not Collett’s magnanimity, but a continuing lack of talent and experience within the British far right. In fact, the real surprise of the latest PA split is not that Smith has proven disloyal, but that (so far) his old ally from BNP days, PA’s Eastern region organiser Steve Blake, has remained loyal to Collett.
Also backing Collett are his deputy Laura Tyrie (alias Laura Towler) and her husband, Yorkshire regional organiser Sam Melia, as well as another PA power couples, Newcastle auctioneer Phoebe Hoare and fellow North East England regional organiser Steven Wilson.”
The CPS ruling on her husband and backer of someone who inappropriately behaves with 14 and 15 year old girls here for anyone interested:
I believe you cut and pasted that from 'Searchlight'....a far left website obsessed with attacking the right?
So using your logic searching for far left attack articles is a bit suspicious isn't it.
So are you a member of any far left organizations Dan?
Oh and by the way this attempt to smear people like the Towlers with peadophila is disgusting and just another example of the lies your side breathes like air.
Anyone fiddling with kids should suffer for it.....The only political side that peadophiles have ever found any sympathy for and even official representation is by the left. Anyone on the right involved with those degenerates will soon understand our position.
Nope, not a member of any political organisations (s not a z, are you just an American patriot these days?) thanks. Not even overtly political these days.
Just think it’s only fair that people get to see who these people really are. It’s not that difficult to find this information in this day and age. The far/hard/‘dissident’* right are feeling extremely emboldened right now so it’s more important than ever that a torch is held up to the views and those who hold them so that those undecided or easily swayed are fully informed.
*delete depending on how big your balls are feeling today. Only Matov seems to have the balls to say what he is on here.
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Both the 's' and 'z' are accepted in English....this is like when I'm moaned at for spelling 'sceptical' using the American English version of 'skeptical'....I just prefer that spelling version.
Apparently I'm afraid to give my political views? That's news to me, I've literally been doing little else on Hol since about 2016. I can't believe you seriously think otherwise.
I think if you want to know who I'm probably closest to politically I'd say Ben Habib, so further to the social right than Reform but not to the extent of PA in all areas......However, that doesn't mean I support these persecutions and these attempts at banning political speech.
Ah, the old “far/hard right” description rears its head again
I didn’t know he’d been jailed and didn’t know anything about this incident. You obviously do so can you tell us what those stickers on those lampposts said exactly please?
Happy to be guided to anything of mine that is ‘tetchy’ Spider.
As I’ve just said, the fringes of the right are more emboldened than usual given recent events. Challenging them and not letting the narrative be bulldozed home without scrutiny is even more important now.
Have you read the quotes that I pulled out of the BBC article? Do you not think they are ‘far/hard right’?
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Dude, you're asking me to remember quotes on stickers from a trial years ago.
I think one was about replacement and some had statistics on, if you're interested so much look it up.
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Spreading lies about the endorsement of peados is 'challenging them' is it.
Well, personally I think we have seen from the left in their attitudes to the rapes of white working class girls how much the left really care about 'outing' peados.
It was the left who were more concerned about shouting racism than stopping decades of abuse......Indeed, they never did stop it, the media had to expose it first and even they had ignored people including the 'far right' for a long time....all admitted.
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Yeah, when it comes to unfairly smearing people about the sexual abuse of underage girls I tend to be 'tetchy'.
The left need to look in the mirror on peados, because the vast majority of them only find solace in their ranks.
Nathan Worrell, 46, was found guilty of eight offences of stirring up racial hatred at Grimsby Crown Court.
During the trial, Worrell denied the Holocaust took place and said he had been a member of the Ku Klux Klan.
I did look it up Stirling.
Thought I’d post this so that any onlookers could read it and make up their own minds.
Cheers dude
During the trial, Worrell denied the Holocaust took place and said he had been a member of the Ku Klux Klan.
I did look it up Stirling.
Thought I’d post this so that any onlookers could read it and make up their own minds.
Cheers dude
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Personally I think pump actions are so last year but that’s only my opinion !
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Well done, you managed to look up the wrong guy.
Regardless six years for that? My country is run by absurd leftists.