cryrst
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If you produce x for a salary and then you produce x - 20% you are getting paid more just by the maths of it surely.
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Starmer's benefit Britain !!
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Mirror ,mirror on the wall,guess who is the biggest liar of them all??
www.express.co.uk
'The 12 biggest lies Keir Starmer told us – now they're coming back to bite him'
Last year, I wrote that PM Keir Starmer had "lifted lying to a new level". Now he's raised the bar again.
www.express.co.uk
Forest Hillbilly
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just a comment about quiet quitting. There are may low paid unskilled workers out there who are not in a union.
Someone close to me has just had their annual pay review, along with many other members of staff. Everyone got nothing more than an average score.
"You know I'm very good at my job. What do I have to do to get a better score ?"
The answer to that, was doing volunteer administration work in your time off.
The employer has just facilitated a "quiet quitting" culture, where staff are no longer going to put themselves out. Nothing to do with unions or internet, the big employer just demotivated their staff.
Someone close to me has just had their annual pay review, along with many other members of staff. Everyone got nothing more than an average score.
"You know I'm very good at my job. What do I have to do to get a better score ?"
The answer to that, was doing volunteer administration work in your time off.
The employer has just facilitated a "quiet quitting" culture, where staff are no longer going to put themselves out. Nothing to do with unions or internet, the big employer just demotivated their staff.
PalazioVecchio
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Mirror ,mirror on the wall,guess who is the biggest liar of them all??
'The 12 biggest lies Keir Starmer told us – now they're coming back to bite him'
Last year, I wrote that PM Keir Starmer had "lifted lying to a new level". Now he's raised the bar again.
Leo Varadkar was PM in Ireland. Openly Gay, and nobody batted an eyelid. It was his incompetence and/or worse that got him fired in the end.
why would anybody lie about stuff in one's personal life ?
Varadkar did not have a wife......... he did not have a Two Tier love-life.
I don't bother reading the papers anymore much cheaper to read Holmesdale Online and read the right wing tripe here. The newspaper mantra is make it short,make it up,if only Stirling would make it brief it would save me so much time. The smell of bovine animals doing their business.
georgenorman
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Have you actually ever read a copy of the Spectator.
Yes. If it's any use to you I avidly read the Financial Times and Investor's Chronicle but not the gutter press.
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georgenorman
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It what way is the 197-year-old magazine "gutter press".
I didn't refer to the Spectator as the gutter press , I meant the right wing tabloids, and mentioned two publications that I avidly read that are not politically biased, the press generally leans to the right it has to be said by any rational person.
NEILLO
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Mirror ,mirror on the wall,guess who is the biggest liar of them all??
'The 12 biggest lies Keir Starmer told us – now they're coming back to bite him'
Last year, I wrote that PM Keir Starmer had "lifted lying to a new level". Now he's raised the bar again.
georgenorman
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You responded to a post that was specifically about the Spectator.
NEILLO
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The thing with ' Quiet Quitting ' is that it's always been there but now has a label.
And I don't think it's confined to Gen Z either .
My partner works in the City for the sovereign bank of the largest country in Asia. She was hired for a specific role which after 14 years ( ! ) has never materialised. So she has learned new skills - fine. She has always had either very good or good appraisals - fine. But due to the blatant racism that exists and the toxic culture that it has bred, most of the ' local ' staff like her are totally de-motivated.
So they are reasonably well paid although could quite easily improve their salaries by moving job. And although it's not a healthy workplace, the rule of thumb seems to be that if you don't leave after 2 years the chances are you'll just stay. And do the bare minimum. And quietly quit.
There are good companies and many bad ones. However if people choose the quiet quitting route they will never progress career and money wise.
The answer of course is to change companies. I never minded putting in a shift because I knew I would get the rewards and did. The ones that moaned were mainly the quiet quitters although we didn't call them that in those days.
My main point is that workers and unions need to be realistic I think we are in for a rough time employment wise so apart from a few sectors like Health and Transport most workers are looking at job losses so perhaps asking for too much is not the best career move when someone in Asia can do your job far cheaper.
Perhaps we will look back on the last 50 years as the golden age of employment? Who knows.
The answer of course is to change companies. I never minded putting in a shift because I knew I would get the rewards and did. The ones that moaned were mainly the quiet quitters although we didn't call them that in those days.
My main point is that workers and unions need to be realistic I think we are in for a rough time employment wise so apart from a few sectors like Health and Transport most workers are looking at job losses so perhaps asking for too much is not the best career move when someone in Asia can do your job far cheaper.
Perhaps we will look back on the last 50 years as the golden age of employment? Who knows.
I chose to widen the debate.
Can the UK really be this bad:
Britain is heading for utter ruin, and neither the parties nor the voters are prepared to stop it
Britain is heading for utter ruin, and neither the parties nor the voters are prepared to stop it
Poor old Keir,clearly out of his depth and sinking like a stone!!
www.telegraph.co.uk
The absurd claim that Britain’s Chagos giveaway bolsters national security
Plus: Fostering national identity; living wills; camping on Dartmoor; what to eat at the opera; and dangerous cyclists in public parks
www.telegraph.co.uk
J.C. and the sunshine band,keep up the positivity.Poor old Keir,clearly out of his depth and sinking like a stone!!
The absurd claim that Britain’s Chagos giveaway bolsters national security
Plus: Fostering national identity; living wills; camping on Dartmoor; what to eat at the opera; and dangerous cyclists in public parks
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Cut out the personal snipes and stick to the topic please!
