The grifter gets paid based on views and clicks so you’ll forgive me for not lining his pockets.
I take him as seriously as you would watching Diane Abbott provide a lecture on calculus.
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The grifter gets paid based on views and clicks so you’ll forgive me for not lining his pockets.
I take him as seriously as you would watching Diane Abbott provide a lecture on calculus.
Teddy Eagle
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She said she had a nice holiday there but called it Conkerless.
palace_in_frogland
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Tch, not that old chestnut again?
Teddy Eagle
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Yep, she's still around.
Hrolf The Ganger
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Immigration has already destroyed our culture.
Our everyday is now preoccupied with issue related to it.
Our entertainment is now subject to box ticking 'diversity'. Our sport is polluted with race politics. Comedy is stifled by political correctness. Even advertisements feature more people of colour than Whites.
Meanwhile, people are afraid to walk the streets through fear of crime and terrorism.
This is a very different Britain to the one I grew up in.
We have wage suppression, housing shortages, a burden on the tax payer to pay for illegals, huge pressure on vital services, whole areas that are now occupied by immigrants and look more like a foreign country.
The PM has recently admitted that mass immigration has no benefit for the economy.
Do tell us what part of our immigration policy you support and why you think we can blame anyone else other than our own governments?
Stirlingsays
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Still ticking over these slimeball appeal judges....no doubt establishment leftists, knowingly chosen for the Lisa Connolly appeal.
I expect and hope that the stain of how the white working class have been treated over Southport stays on Starmer and never leaves him. It may have delighted the Owen Jones types but that's a small minority of people and the vast majority of the country have seen free speech deliberately destroyed in this country compared to its past.
The left have manipulated what is incitement by completely ignoring the 'for all I care' part of her statement.....for which she deleted and apologised for.
But like all the others, deemed right wing, who plead guilty under advice I hear that she was threatened with years on remand if they plead not guilty.....That's why they all quickly pleaded guilty and it's also why the state used them as examples and gave them significantly higher sentences than some child abuses get.
Unless you are threatening someone's life, all you should receive for a tweet is a warning. Maybe an apology is warranted depending upon the circumstances. Words are not actions.
Britain's reputation for free speech has been damaged around the world. The perception of what this country was has been significantly downgraded for decades.
However it appears that the Labour councilor was advised to plea not guilty and no threat of remand was made nor carried out. He walks free to this day.
His statement was actual direct incitement, no, 'for all I care', in his statement. However, no action came from his statement and in my opinion he should have been given a warning and Labour should have removed him as a councilor......I think Labour did that but otherwise the system has treated him completely differently up to now.
I expect and hope that the stain of how the white working class have been treated over Southport stays on Starmer and never leaves him. It may have delighted the Owen Jones types but that's a small minority of people and the vast majority of the country have seen free speech deliberately destroyed in this country compared to its past.
The left have manipulated what is incitement by completely ignoring the 'for all I care' part of her statement.....for which she deleted and apologised for.
But like all the others, deemed right wing, who plead guilty under advice I hear that she was threatened with years on remand if they plead not guilty.....That's why they all quickly pleaded guilty and it's also why the state used them as examples and gave them significantly higher sentences than some child abuses get.
Unless you are threatening someone's life, all you should receive for a tweet is a warning. Maybe an apology is warranted depending upon the circumstances. Words are not actions.
Britain's reputation for free speech has been damaged around the world. The perception of what this country was has been significantly downgraded for decades.
However it appears that the Labour councilor was advised to plea not guilty and no threat of remand was made nor carried out. He walks free to this day.
His statement was actual direct incitement, no, 'for all I care', in his statement. However, no action came from his statement and in my opinion he should have been given a warning and Labour should have removed him as a councilor......I think Labour did that but otherwise the system has treated him completely differently up to now.
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Just to clarify and to answer his question: "So you are pro more and more people, who do not share our culture or our values, coming to the UK?"
Just to clarify, what do you think?
It's not a question, it's a statement.
Would you consider that statement to be 'gaslighting'?
According to you:
Person A:
"I think border security is important and shouldn’t be dismissed just because it's a talking point from the right."
Person B (Gaslighting):
"Wow, I didn’t know you were okay with racism and locking kids in cages. I guess I completely misjudged your values."
This reframes a nuanced position as inherently immoral, making Person A question their values or integrity rather than addressing the policy view itself.
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Original statement from Midkent:
"Whilst pro immigration, I am very much against mass undocumented immigration"
Matov:
"So you are pro more and more people, who do not share our culture or our values, coming to the UK?
Makes you the enemy. And fully supportive of what the wider globalist agenda is."
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Wisbech Eagle
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They weren’t appeal judges. They were judges ruling on a point of law on whether an appeal could be heard. No politics involved. Just the law.
The working class, whatever their skin colour may be, are perfectly capable of separating the difference between genuine outrage at an appalling act of violence and the incitement of violence against immigrants.
It’s only those on the hard/far right who try to conflate them.
Passing sentences that act as a deterrent to others is a legitimate part of the justice system.
Inciting violence is not free speech. She did just that and backed it up later. She did threaten the lives of others. Words ARE actions when they incite! Read the judgement:-
Britain’s reputation for fairness, and for defining what freedom of speech truly means, has been much advanced in recent years around the world. Other than where regressive politics have taken root.
Making comparisons with others, without any genuine analysis of the facts, is only done by those who see political motivations in everything.
georgenorman
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Do you think you may have been a prosecutor in the USSR during the 1930s in a past life?
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It's quite a simple question that you are unable to answer. Very odd.
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I don't care what the posters you refer to have to say in terms of gaslighting as I have not followed the entire thread.
I directly asked you a question and you are deflecting onto something else.
Nice cop out though!
So, you'll call me out over "Gaslighting" but "I don't care what the posters you refer to have to say."
It seems that you're only concerned with the "Gaslighting" if it concerns me.
Absolutely. Nice cop-out indeed, my impartial friend.
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What are you on about? Apart from repeating what I say. Something wrong with you? 😂
Don't be too harsh on him. Many on the left are simply incapable of giving a straight answer for a variety of reasons, but primarily because when it comes to championing migrants over the native population, it is more a kind of addiction rather than any kind of rational thought out logic.
It all comes back their championing of Islam. By any kind of rational thinking, the Left should be the most anti-Islamic voice in modern politics. And yet they are not. Because what really drives this is a dopaminec craving rather than any kind of logical political thought.
Addicts. Literal addicts. Who experience a genuine thrill when ever another boat load of invaders hit the southcoast. Or, ideally, being escorted into British ports by offical boats. That makes them almost want to eat themselves in delight.
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So what? Don't take it personally. I don't read every single post and it's not my job to be the gaslighting police!
Except when you want it to be, of course.
Why wouldn't I take it personally, mate? It's just not fair, balanced or impartial in my opinion.
Then, I make a comment on the Palace talk section and already Rolfie, quoting you, is calling me a looney-left gaslighter. A charge which I proved to be untrue, giving copious amount of proof but, for some unknown reason (certainly not the proof provided) you choose to reject it and still charge me with the 'gaslighting' smear.
When someone appears to come gunning for me like so, why wouldn't I take it personally?
I don't expect/want people on here to like me and I suppose I shouldn't expect fairness, really, given the lingua franca on here.