Russell Brand

[Hrolf The Ganger]

How do you explain him being acquitted of the other charges if you think the jury were prejudiced?

You seem to be very sure that the outcome was correct, so I would expect you to know the answer.

 

[silvertop]

I have to say....having watched Brand....I'd really like to know what these right wing talking points are that he is so pigeoned holed with.

I think this is just something that gets said enough times that people just end up accepting it.

If Brand was right wing I think I'd know.....but he isn't.

Member of the Labour Party.

Or was until today.

This type of transgression passes the full political spectrum.

 

[Mattconrov]

I have to say....having watched Brand....I'd really like to know what these right wing talking points are that he is so pigeoned holed with.

I think this is just something that gets said enough times that people just end up accepting it.

If Brand was right wing I think I'd know.....but he isn't.

I agree. He was questioning "power", which traditionally I thought the left did. But everything is upside down these days.

 

[Mattconrov]

Brand has been framed as right wing by the media; obviously that doesn't mean he is.

People into conspiracies are apparently right wing. People who wore masks during and after covid, were framed as Lefties. Governments the media and social engineering all at play I think.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

I have to say....having watched Brand....I'd really like to know what these right wing talking points are that he is so pigeoned holed with.

I think this is just something that gets said enough times that people just end up accepting it.

If Brand was right wing I think I'd know.....but he isn't.

There’s clearly an element laziness in the tag, but let’s not deny the obvious - his most recent interviews and podcasts appearances all tell a pretty clear story:
Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Steven Crowder and Dave Rubin…

He’s endorsed Trump, went to the Republican National Convention, and increasingly aligned himself with MAGA.

I’d agree he’s not a traditional conservative, and in fact I’d question how much of the above is a function of trying to avoid charges as opposed to genuine political agreement, but he has clearly allied himself with parts of the right over the last few years.

 

[DanH]

I have to say....having watched Brand....I'd really like to know what these right wing talking points are that he is so pigeoned holed with.

I think this is just something that gets said enough times that people just end up accepting it.

If Brand was right wing I think I'd know.....but he isn't.

It's him setting people up to believe his inevitable downfall is some sort of 'elitist' conspiracy rather than him having to be held accountable for his own actions.

His pivot to 'Christianity' and pumping out commonly hashed internet conspiracy theories was pure self-protectionism. The people that used to employ him and pay to see him disowned him a long time ago so he turned to people like you that are willing to dismiss or downplay crimes that he's been actually been guilty of in a UK court of law to try and protect him.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

There’s clearly an element laziness in the tag, but let’s not deny the obvious - his most recent interviews and podcasts appearances all tell a pretty clear story:
Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Steven Crowder and Dave Rubin…

He’s endorsed Trump, went to the Republican National Convention, and increasingly aligned himself with MAGA.

I’d agree he’s not a traditional conservative, and in fact I’d question how much of the above is a function of trying to avoid charges as opposed to genuine political agreement, but he has clearly allied himself with parts of the right over the last few years.

Suspect he's nothing but an ego driven opportunist who's been prepared to say anything to get some money out of both sides. What does he actually believe? Why should anyone care?

 

[Mattconrov]

There’s clearly an element laziness in the tag, but let’s not deny the obvious - his most recent interviews and podcasts appearances all tell a pretty clear story:
Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Steven Crowder and Dave Rubin…

He’s endorsed Trump, went to the Republican National Convention, and increasingly aligned himself with MAGA.

I’d agree he’s not a traditional conservative, and in fact I’d question how much of the above is a function of trying to avoid charges as opposed to genuine political agreement, but he has clearly allied himself with parts of the right over the last few years.

How much of what we think is right and left politics, comes from the government, media and social engineering think tanks.

For instance Stirling doesn't think Brand is right wing.

Maybe they are trying to make us belive in group think a bit too much. Divide and rule etc.

We have a two tier system in this country created by the above organisations. That doesn't mean the people you meet everyday are treating each other as two tier necessarily.

I hope that makes some sense.lol

 

[DanH]

Suspect he's nothing but an ego driven opportunist who's been prepared to say anything to get some money out of both sides. What does he actually believe? Why should anyone care?

Not sure anyone can put it more succinctly than this.

 

[chris123]

Anyone else concerned about these secret injunctions that no one seems to know anything because they are secret. How many would be an good start.

 

[silvertop]

Anyone else concerned about these secret injunctions that no one seems to know anything because they are secret. How many would be an good start.

More concerned about NDAs that the powerful impose on the weak and which the courts generally endorse and enforce.

Injunctions, by contrast, have to pass judicial scrutiny with a Bench heavily disposed against granting them.

The courts support one but generally oppose the other. An odd paradox.

 

[ASCPFC]

Anyone else concerned about these secret injunctions that no one seems to know anything because they are secret. How many would be an good start.

It can no longer be framed that Starmer's is in the public interest or for national security concerns.

 

[Mattconrov]

I heard someone suggest that Phil's Barber is a freemason.

The above is what high ranking freemasons are interested in. Numerology

 

[chris123]

More concerned about NDAs that the powerful impose on the weak and which the courts generally endorse and enforce.

Injunctions, by contrast, have to pass judicial scrutiny with a Bench heavily disposed against granting them.

The courts support one but generally oppose the other. An odd paradox.

Solicitors with their NDAs and SLAPPs.

Just add I don't think these are in the same league as secret injunctions issued by a Judge.

 

[Stirlingsays]

There’s clearly an element laziness in the tag, but let’s not deny the obvious - his most recent interviews and podcasts appearances all tell a pretty clear story:
Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Steven Crowder and Dave Rubin…

He’s endorsed Trump, went to the Republican National Convention, and increasingly aligned himself with MAGA.

I’d agree he’s not a traditional conservative, and in fact I’d question how much of the above is a function of trying to avoid charges as opposed to genuine political agreement, but he has clearly allied himself with parts of the right over the last few years.

Your opinion seems very very wedded to what you sphere think rather than the balanced opinion.

For example, interviewing people isn't having their views, if you had watched those interviews then you'd know where Brand differed....but you didn't did you.

Brand over the same time period interviewed far more people on the left.....but your echo chamber doesn't care about that.

No, he's not a Conservative at all, he's a kind of lefty libertarian. Trump himself supported and funded Democrats up unto the progressives took over the Democrats.

On the social side of politics Brand would be closer to someone like you than he is to my views.....Perhaps you might ask yourself why he's being called right wing.....because he's against how I see the world.

But we do agree on elitism and corruption.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Brand has been framed as right wing by the media; obviously that doesn't mean he is.

People into conspiracies are apparently right wing. People who wore masks during and after covid, were framed as Lefties. Governments the media and social engineering all at play I think.

Lefty conspiracy theories are all over the left.....from the Trump ear shooting was staged to Kirk was murdered by the far right.....to the most amusing of all, that the BBC is right wing.

Seen the first two pushed by people on here who then talk about right wing conspiracy theories being nuts.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Your opinion seems very very wedded to what you sphere think rather than the balanced opinion.

For example, interviewing people isn't having their views, if you had watched those interviews then you'd know where Brand differed....but you didn't did you.

Brand over the same time period interviewed far more people on the left.....but your echo chamber doesn't care about that.

No, he's not a Conservative at all, he's a kind of lefty libertarian.

Closer to someone like you than he is to my views.....Perhaps you might ask yourself why he's being called right wing.....because he's against how I see the world.

But we do agree on elitism and corruption.

Your barometer for balance and objectivity seems to just be how close someone’s opinion is to your own, which is just childishly silly.

Objectively, Brand pulled closer to the (predominantly) American online-right, anti-establishment, slightly conspiratorial movement - he did the rounds on all of their shows, he pulled closer to MAGA, he endorsed Trump, he went to the Republican convention. These are facts. That he also interviewed some left-wing people doesn’t really hold up in comparison.

I’m sure Brand doesn’t agree with all of them on everything, and as I already acknowledged I don’t think he’s a conservative in the traditional sense, but Brand very overly pulled closer to that sort of movement. Pretending otherwise is just silly.

I can agree that ‘right-wing’ is maybe a slightly lazy summary of the above, but its meaning in context is pretty obvious to anyone being honest.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Lefty conspiracy theories are all over the left.....from the Trump ear shooting was staged to Kirk was murdered by the far right.....to the most amusing of all, that the BBC is right wing.

Seen the first two pushed by people on here who then talk about right wing conspiracy theories being nuts.

Which prevalent left wing figures are pushing these theories, and can you evidence a popularity even close to the conspiratorial theories that are popular on the right?

 

[martinelliff]

It does not matter what his politics were. No idea if Saville was a leftie or rightie, same with Rolf or Walliams. They are all sex pests who took advantage of their status. All had multiple independent victims over multiple years some of whom reported them at ghe time. All were well know lutches. Its nothing new. Power corrupts. Elvis met Prisilla when she was 14. Is that classed as grooming like what Walliams did?

 

[Cucking Funt]

You are amazingly thick.

Questioning a conviction is not defending a rapist. The conviction is what makes him a rapist.
By contrast, supporting an ideology that allows dangerous criminals to be released from prison early or arrive on boats and move into your neighbourhood shows a complete disregard for the safety of women and girls.

Professor of Irony 😂