Reform

[HKOwen]

Why don't they try being Conservatives and pursuing Conservative policies? I expect that we will end up with some sort of merged Tory/Reform party - it could be called Reformatory! The wets, one-nation posers would all b-off to the Liberals (they deserve each other).

Reformatory, very good

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Why don't they try being Conservatives and pursuing Conservative policies? I expect that we will end up with some sort of merged Tory/Reform party - it could be called Reformatory! The wets, one-nation posers would all b-off to the Liberals (they deserve each other).

Or The Reformation.

 

[Stirlingsays]

They might be in the ascendancy in some of the current polls but the Election is 4 years away.Apropos polls, a recent 'YouGov' poll only had Reform in a 3% lead.
Reform are being subjected to scrutiny they have never faced before.
As for us Conservatives we have got to do the hard, serious, grown-up thinking over the next months and years to get together that policy platform that can truly address the big challenges that our country faces, to put to the British people.

The cuckservatives will do what they usually do.

As little as possible.

The party of 'house prices in nice areas' let themselves get fecked by Cameron (who they moronically voted for) and now Cameron's legacy...which are your liberal MPs sit in half your seats and there's nothing that can be done about it.....No one's willing to have that self harming war and do what's needed for the long term, it's always compromise compromise.

The reality is that the Conservatives aren't going to rise above 20 percent and Jenrick and Braverman and all the right wingers worth the actual name will probably move to Reform in time for the election.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Reform uncovering waste and corruption in Kent, people want to see their money being spent well, Kent seems to be the opposite

I have heard rumours.

 

[HKOwen]

I have heard rumours.

I saw it on the telly in an interview with the council leader , usual stuff.

Paying invoices for non existent services
Paying allowances to dead people, their relatives who collected should be in prison
Providing illegal immigrants with all sorts of things, ten pin bowling trips, cinema visits and frckin driving lessons. Many on here will have saved to pay the cost of their kids' driving lessons.

People will be rightly upset

 

[Willo]

The cuckservatives will do what they usually do.

As little as possible.

The party of 'house prices in nice areas' let themselves get fecked by Cameron (who they moronically voted for) and now Cameron's legacy...which are your liberal MPs sit in half your seats and there's nothing that can be done about it.....No one's willing to have that self harming war and do what's needed for the long term, it's always compromise compromise.

The reality is that the Conservatives aren't going to rise above 20 percent and Jenrick and Braverman and all the right wingers worth the actual name will probably move to Reform in time for the election.

I have been in conversation with several Conservatives on the 'Right' of the party (Like me) and they view such a combination as a 'Dream Ticket'. 👍 👍

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

The cuckservatives will do what they usually do.

As little as possible.

The party of 'house prices in nice areas' let themselves get fecked by Cameron (who they moronically voted for) and now Cameron's legacy...which are your liberal MPs sit in half your seats and there's nothing that can be done about it.....No one's willing to have that self harming war and do what's needed for the long term, it's always compromise compromise.

The reality is that the Conservatives aren't going to rise above 20 percent and Jenrick and Braverman and all the right wingers worth the actual name will probably move to Reform in time for the election.

It would be crazy for people with a similar views to compete against each other in an election.
Jenrick and Braverman should move to Reform along with any other genuine right of centre Tories.

It makes no sense politically or personally to cut your own throat.

 

[Willo]

It would be crazy for people with a similar views to compete against each other in an election.
Jenrick and Braverman should move to Reform along with any other genuine right of centre Tories.

It makes no sense politically or personally to cut your own throat.

I am on the Conservative 'Right', I have never considered defecting to Reform.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

I am on the Conservative 'Right', I have never considered defecting to Reform.

How will you feel if Labour win again because the Tories and Reform split the right wing vote?

 

[Stirlingsays]

I am on the Conservative 'Right', I have never considered defecting to Reform.

You aren't on the right if a party means more than the principles.

You just can't accept that the left destroyed your party.

The time when it could have been saved has gone. Half your MPs are social liberals, how on earth are you going to get a Jenrick/Braverman ticket?

A lot of them still want a Tugendhat type figure....a centralist to compromise as usual.

No point.

 

[Willo]

How will you feel if Labour win again because the Tories and Reform split the right wing vote?

The next election is 4 years away and at this juncture I am not engaging in any conjecture as to any supposed 'Split' in the right-wing vote. The political landscape could be vastly different to that at the present time.

The Conservative Party is in my blood it is coursing though my veins.I have been an active member for many a year meeting a host of prominent figures during that time. For the present I participate in a CPF (Conservative Policy Forum) and have provided input to the 'Policy Renewal Programme'. I am not about to defect to Reform !

 

[Willo]

You aren't on the right if a party means more than the principles.

You just can't accept that the left destroyed your party.

The time when it could have been saved has gone. Half your MPs are social liberals, how on earth are you going to get a Jenrick/Braverman ticket?

A lot of them still want a Tugendhat type figure....a centralist to compromise as usual.

No point.

I have not heard any great swathes of support for Tom Tugendhat or the like. No 'Beating of the drum'.
At the leadership election, the choice presented to the members was 2 on the 'Right' of the party.
There are a number of reasons why we suffered a humiliating defeat and one cannot lay all the blame on those who are not on my side of the party.To assert that the "Left destroyed your party" is rather over-egging the actualite.

 

[DanH]

Reform uncovering waste and corruption in Kent, people want to see their money being spent well, Kent seems to be the opposite

This is the third time you have posted this with absolutely nothing to back it up. I have 'done my own research' again like you suggested last time, and ignored me when I pointed out there was nothing in the public sphere to back up what you said, and the only thing I can find is this article.

Opposition questions Reform’s claims that KCC spent thousands on illegal migrants

Claims Kent County Council spent thousands of pounds on trampolining, bowling and trips to the cinema for “illegal migrants” have been rubbished.

www.kentonline.co.uk

They are questioning spending of £2.8 million - their figures. Kent County Councils budget is (according to publicly available figures), £2.6 billion. If that £2.8 million was all they can find that was 'wasted', according to their own opinion, that is 0.1% of the entire budget. On a budget that size, that to me suggests some pretty prudent budgeting and spending if only 10p out of every £100 is 'wasted'.

So do you have anything else to back up this claim you keep making?

 

[Stirlingsays]

I have not heard any great swathes of support for Tom Tugendhat or the like. No 'Beating of the drum'.
At the leadership election, the choice presented to the members was 2 on the 'Right' of the party.
There are a number of reasons why we suffered a humiliating defeat and one cannot lay all the blame on those who are not on my side of the party.To assert that the "Left destroyed your party" is rather over-egging the actualite.

You're going down with the ship and it's your choice.

 

[Willo]

You're going down with the ship and it's your choice.

I readily accept that the ship is in 'Pitchy Seas' however the election is a few years away. A great deal of water will pass under the vessel !
Whether Kemi Badenoch will be at the helm at the General Election is open to debate.

 

[DanH]

You're going down with the ship and it's your choice.

He'd be the one still playing the violin on the Titantic until the last moment 🙂

 

[ASCPFC]

He'd be the one still playing the violin on the Titantic until the last moment 🙂

The Titanic would be even more problematic today. No way could you say "women and children first".

 

[Willo]

Reform, simply do not have real answers to our country’s challenges that’s why their energy policy fell apart after they announced it.
Their policy of no taxes for those earning less than £20,000 would cost nigh on £80 Billion.

Farage today could not answer how much the latest "Non-Dom" plan would cost - He just ridiculed the £34Billion but offered no figure at all.
Farage is trying to be all things to all people, with a plethora of announcements and no thinking behind how he’s going to pay for any of them. He will play whatever tune he thinks appeals to the people but that’s not serious grown-up politics.
Nigel Farage wheels out populist policies left, right and centre, without any real thought about how they can be delivered or indeed funded.

PR announcements without a policy plan.

 

[DanH]

The Titanic would be even more problematic today. No way could you say "women and children first".

People would be too busy arguing about the one trans person onboard and no one would be saved 🙂

 

[ASCPFC]

The Titanic would be even more problematic today. No way could you say "women and children first".

Somebody would say "define a woman.'