Reform

[cryrst]

Experience can be found in the culture and history of a party and not just the current people involved. They have procedures and disciplines to help them understand the reality of government and how to work out solutions.

As you like to write, “times change” so their experience ain’t worth tuppence really!

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Perhaps you haven’t noticed but his shadow is everywhere these days.

He might like that. You might not realise it. Others cannot ignore it.

How could it not be noticed when his name is mentioned ad nauseum on every thread?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

As you like to write, “times change” so their experience ain’t worth tuppence really!

It’s priceless. Experience is what enables you to cope with change calmly and objectively. Knowing it always happens and just needs to adjusted to avoids panicky responses.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

How could it not be noticed when his name is mentioned ad nauseum on every thread?

It isn’t here, despite your misconceptions. Not unless someone else is mentioning him in threads I neither read nor participate in.

It is though constantly in our faces elsewhere. Most of the daily headlines seem to involve him these days.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

What the likes of David Lammy!

There are always exceptions.

I am sure Lammy has plenty of experience though. What of is another matter.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It isn’t here, despite your misconceptions. Not unless someone else is mentioning him in threads I neither read nor participate in.

It is though constantly in our faces elsewhere. Most of the daily headlines seem to involve him these days.

Misconception when you said
Just like Trump in the USA - in an unrelated thread. This one.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Misconception when you said
Just like Trump in the USA - in an unrelated thread. This one.

This thread!

Isn’t every thread. Which, in case you forgot, was the actual claim.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

This thread!

Isn’t every thread. Which, in case you forgot, was the actual claim.

No I didn't forget. I'm not Joe Biden.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

No I didn't forget. I'm not Joe Biden.

Seems to me you forgot to forget you aren’t Joe Biden.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Seems to me you forgot to forget you aren’t Joe Biden.

I didn't have to remember to forget. I only fall over when I'm Oliver Twist.

 

[DanH]

Yet more economic illiteracy from Reform. Expect more of this as they actually have to announce some policies that have to face some scrutiny.

The £34bn cost of Reform UK’s “Britannia card” proposal

Reform UK’s Britannia Card would let wealthy foreigners pay £250,000 to avoid UK tax — but would likely cost £34bn and reduce skilled migration.

taxpolicy.org.uk

 

[silvertop]

Yet more economic illiteracy from Reform. Expect more of this as they actually have to announce some policies that have to face some scrutiny.

The £34bn cost of Reform UK’s “Britannia card” proposal

Reform UK’s Britannia Card would let wealthy foreigners pay £250,000 to avoid UK tax — but would likely cost £34bn and reduce skilled migration.

taxpolicy.org.uk

You overestimate their base.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Yet more economic illiteracy from Reform. Expect more of this as they actually have to announce some policies that have to face some scrutiny.

The £34bn cost of Reform UK’s “Britannia card” proposal

Reform UK’s Britannia Card would let wealthy foreigners pay £250,000 to avoid UK tax — but would likely cost £34bn and reduce skilled migration.

taxpolicy.org.uk

They could nearly build HS2 from London to Woking for that.

 

[Willo]

They could nearly build HS2 from London to Woking for that.

Apropos the '£34 Billion', at the Press Conference, Farage just laughed and dismissed this amount, yet when asked how much the latest announcement would cost he never provided any answer.

Furthermore the 'No tax for those earning under £20,000' aged well when analysts calculated the cost would amount to nigh on £80 Billion !
None of this is thought through, Reform are trying to be all things to all people with a plethora of announcements and no thinking regards to how this would be funded.Reform play whatever tune they believe appeals to the electorate. No serious thinking and fantasy economics.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Apropos the '£34 Billion', at the Press Conference, Farage just laughed and dismissed this amount, yet when asked how much the latest announcement would cost he never provided any answer.

Furthermore the 'No tax for those earning under £20,000' aged well when analysts calculated the cost would amount to nigh on £80 Billion !
None of this is thought through, Reform are trying to be all things to all people with a plethora of announcements and no thinking regards to how this would be funded.Reform play whatever tune they believe appeals to the electorate. No serious thinking and fantasy economics.

Nothing wrong with fantasy economics. Thanks to this wonderful concept I am a multi-trillionaire. I snap my fingers and Elon Musk says something daft and I've been like Sammy Davis, jnr recently.

 

[Willo]

Reform have benefitted from the fact that we have a deeply unpopular Labour government and the Conservatives are in the wake of a crushing electoral defeat and in 'Pitchy Seas' at present.

 

[ASCPFC]

Reform must be doing ok if they're getting nearly the same ire as Trump did. Currently, they need some kind of invented scandal to lose. Labour giveaways just before the election aren't going to cut it and are (lets face it) likely to be fudged. And Tories will not split the vote as I don't see a comeback unless they can invent some kind of Boris or Ken Clarke figure. It feels to me that when Kemi talks, no one listens. And all of their potential candidates are dislikeable - although not Starmer dislikeable. However, can't say for sure that people really take to Farage. I've never particularly rated him.

 

[Willo]

Reform must be doing ok if they're getting nearly the same ire as Trump did. Currently, they need some kind of invented scandal to lose. Labour giveaways just before the election aren't going to cut it and are (lets face it) likely to be fudged. And Tories will not split the vote as I don't see a comeback unless they can invent some kind of Boris or Ken Clarke figure. It feels to me that when Kemi talks, no one listens. And all of their potential candidates are dislikeable - although not Starmer dislikeable. However, can't say for sure that people really take to Farage. I've never particularly rated him.

They might be in the ascendancy in some of the current polls but the Election is 4 years away.Apropos polls, a recent 'YouGov' poll only had Reform in a 3% lead.
Reform are being subjected to scrutiny they have never faced before.
As for us Conservatives we have got to do the hard, serious, grown-up thinking over the next months and years to get together that policy platform that can truly address the big challenges that our country faces, to put to the British people.

 

[georgenorman]

They might be in the ascendancy in some of the current polls but the Election is 4 years away.Apropos polls, a recent 'YouGov' poll only had Reform in a 3% lead.
Reform are being subjected to scrutiny they have never faced before.
As for us Conservatives we have got to do the hard, serious, grown-up thinking over the next months and years to get together that policy platform that can truly address the big challenges that our country faces, to put to the British people.

Why don't they try being Conservatives and pursuing Conservative policies? I expect that we will end up with some sort of merged Tory/Reform party - it could be called Reformatory! The wets, one-nation posers would all b-off to the Liberals (they deserve each other).

 

[HKOwen]

They might be in the ascendancy in some of the current polls but the Election is 4 years away.Apropos polls, a recent 'YouGov' poll only had Reform in a 3% lead.
Reform are being subjected to scrutiny they have never faced before.
As for us Conservatives we have got to do the hard, serious, grown-up thinking over the next months and years to get together that policy platform that can truly address the big challenges that our country faces, to put to the British people.

Reform uncovering waste and corruption in Kent, people want to see their money being spent well, Kent seems to be the opposite