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becky said:
Oh look...... a report on the falling number of Christians produced by The Humanist society. So, no bias there, then......
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It wasn’t though produced by the Humanists! It was simply quoted by them.

The research was conducted by the Pew Reserch Centre and is a very comprehensive look at belief around the world:-

www.pewresearch.org

Around the World, Many People Are Leaving Their Childhood Religions

In many places surveyed, 20% or more of all adults have left their childhood religious group. Christianity and Buddhism have had especially large losses. Pew Research Center.
www.pewresearch.org www.pewresearch.org
 
Teddy Eagle said:
And no one can say you haven't given them a fair opportunity. They've had hours to sort everything out but have they?
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They will get their opportunity. I am though not making a point soley related to Reform. Any party who has known only opposition faces the same problem.

Locally Reform won 28 seats, the LibDems 26 and Independents 16. 44 are needed for a majority. The LibDems refuse to work with Reform. There are only a tiny number of Tories left, along with a handful of Greens and Labour. It’s unlikely there will be enough support for Reform to form a coalition and the moaning has already started.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
It wasn’t though produced by the Humanists! It was simply quoted by them.

The research was conducted by the Pew Reserch Centre and is a very comprehensive look at belief around the world:-

www.pewresearch.org

Around the World, Many People Are Leaving Their Childhood Religions

In many places surveyed, 20% or more of all adults have left their childhood religious group. Christianity and Buddhism have had especially large losses. Pew Research Center.
www.pewresearch.org www.pewresearch.org
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I really wouldn't call a survey comprehensive that polled just under 37 thousand people in the US and 41,500 people in the rest of the world:

"All interviews were conducted over the phone with adults in Canada, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Japan, Malaysia, the Netherlands, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom. Interviews were conducted face-to-face in Argentina, Bangladesh, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ghana, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Israel, Kenya, Mexico, Nigeria, Peru, the Philippines, Poland, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Tunisia and Turkey. In Australia, we used a mixed-mode probability-based online panel."
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
They will get their opportunity. I am though not making a point soley related to Reform. Any party who has known only opposition faces the same problem.

Locally Reform won 28 seats, the LibDems 26 and Independents 16. 44 are needed for a majority. The LibDems refuse to work with Reform. There are only a tiny number of Tories left, along with a handful of Greens and Labour. It’s unlikely there will be enough support for Reform to form a coalition and the moaning has already started.
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But we vote for these people to take decisions for us.
 
becky said:
I really wouldn't call a survey comprehensive that polled just under 37 thousand people in the US and 41,500 people in the rest of the world:

"All interviews were conducted over the phone with adults in Canada, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Japan, Malaysia, the Netherlands, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom. Interviews were conducted face-to-face in Argentina, Bangladesh, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ghana, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Israel, Kenya, Mexico, Nigeria, Peru, the Philippines, Poland, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Tunisia and Turkey. In Australia, we used a mixed-mode probability-based online panel."
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I would! That’s a large enough sample taken by a reputable polling organisation to produce a meaningful result.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
The point is that since you've already said they'll let everyone down there doesn't seem any point.
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The point is that they will find it much more difficult to keep promises than to make them. Something that applies to all political parties and not just Reform.

The difference with Reform being that until now all that they have had to do is make promises. Now they will be judged on performance.

Whilst people inevitably feel let down, as someone needs to steer the ships to the best of their abilities, it’s still necessary that they do or we would hit the rocks more frequently.
 
Palace Old Geezer said:
I'm still sore about not being able to vote because of the perceived political benefit to Labour in redrawing local authority boundaries, but I take some solace from the fact that Keir 'I get it' Starmer has been given a sizeable bloody nose.

I'm not sure Farage would make a good PM, but there's no denying he has his sights set on improving our Country.
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The idiot of a prime minister has "conceded that people were not yet feeling the benefits of a Labour government".

I think the prat's idea of benefits are wrecking the economy, destroying the country and cosying up to brussels.

The only benefit labour could give us is to go and do one...
 
becky said:
I really wouldn't call a survey comprehensive that polled just under 37 thousand people in the US and 41,500 people in the rest of the world:

"All interviews were conducted over the phone with adults in Canada, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Japan, Malaysia, the Netherlands, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom. Interviews were conducted face-to-face in Argentina, Bangladesh, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ghana, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Israel, Kenya, Mexico, Nigeria, Peru, the Philippines, Poland, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Tunisia and Turkey. In Australia, we used a mixed-mode probability-based online panel."
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www.standard.co.uk

Inside London’s hipster church scene, where Gen Z is finding God

In a world of social media-induced angst, young people are looking to religion for meaning. Claudia Cockerell pulls up a pew and meets the people making Christianity cool
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk

Something I have been hearing about, I thought you might find interesting.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
A meaningful result from asking 1 person in every 100,000.
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How do you think polling companies work?

They never poll a high proportion of the people. They poll a representative sample which is extrapolated to give an estimate of the whole, always stated within a margin of error.

They don’t claim absolutes. They measure trends and approximate positions. From this one the trend is clear as are the approximate positions. You might want to dismiss it because it doesn’t fit your narrative, but the politicians won’t.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
How do you think polling companies work?

They never poll a high proportion of the people. They poll a representative sample which is extrapolated to give an estimate of the whole, always stated within a margin of error.

They don’t claim absolutes. They measure trends and approximate positions. From this one the trend is clear as are the approximate positions. You might want to dismiss it because it doesn’t fit your narrative, but the politicians won’t.
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Apparently everyone is now taking the eaglesdare position in that no poll has any merit whatsoever unless every single person on the planet is asked.
 
nhp61 said:
The idiot of a prime minister has "conceded that people were not yet feeling the benefits of a Labour government".

I think the prat's idea of benefits are wrecking the economy, destroying the country and cosying up to brussels.

The only benefit labour could give us is to go and do one...
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No government trying to manage the UK at the moment would fare any better. It’s not Labour that’s the problem it’s those damn events. No one would have been brave enough to raise taxes to the point where they could make a difference. Which is what is really needed. Tinkering with benefits, shortchanging local authorities do they catch the fall out and decimating foreign aid just puts a sticking plaster over a bleeding wound that’s now haemorrhaging voters.

Getting closer to the EU is a prerequisite of any recovery. That’s where our future lies. Not in the USA.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
How do you think polling companies work?

They never poll a high proportion of the people. They poll a representative sample which is extrapolated to give an estimate of the whole, always stated within a margin of error.

They don’t claim absolutes. They measure trends and approximate positions. From this one the trend is clear as are the approximate positions. You might want to dismiss it because it doesn’t fit your narrative, but the politicians won’t.
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Will the politicians dismiss this projection?

 
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