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becky said:
Oh look...... a report on the falling number of Christians produced by The Humanist society. So, no bias there, then......
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Come on Becky! It's well known that the source only matters when it contradicts the preferred opinion.

religionmediacentre.org.uk

Orthodox and evangelical churches grow as 'fringe' Christianity declines - Religion Media Centre

Church of the future will offer community for loneliness, action on social need and intense experience different to daily life.
religionmediacentre.org.uk religionmediacentre.org.uk
 
becky said:
Oh look...... a report on the falling number of Christians produced by The Humanist society. So, no bias there, then......
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You don't believe it then, Becky?

I suppose the question should be about 'practicing Christians'.
If that was the question, then church attendances would point to a drastic fall in this regard, over the last 50 years or so, don't you reckon?
 
steeleye20 said:
Too many headers, John.

Abnormally violent, historically dubious, the people who look the other way.

Christians.

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Are you living a thousand years ago? Where are the abnormally violent Christians you speak of?
Putting on suicide vests and running into crowds? Hiring cars and mowing people down? Grabbing non-believers to machete them to death? Keeping the women as sex slaves?
What violence is being carried out under a Christian banner currently to warrant your claims?
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
No I wasn’t calling you a liar at all. I was interested given your attitude and that most people on public transport ignore one another these days. Too busy on their phones.

Was this in Ireland or the UK? If the UK is she an asylum seeker, a student or both? If both how is she financing the course, as a student loan wouldn’t be available? She would need to pay herself.

I am confused because you quote £s but asylum seekers in the UK don’t get benefits. They get accommodation and a small personal allowance.
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Public transport in London these days, especially on buses, but also on trains, usually involves being in a minority as a white British person while there is usually at least one rude Asian or African bellowing into their phone while having a phone conversation over loudspeaker. The whole public transport experience has changed because of this.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
The previous 14,696 Labour majority in Runcorn not worthy of mention then?
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Anybody who knows anything about Runcorn at all knows it's a poor industrial/ post- industrial area. Labour heartland - so safe it could be Starmer's seat. Basically Liverpool. But this is a huge f*** off to Labour. That is a huge swing. The swingometer would likely break measuring that. Almost unheard of percentages.
 
steeleye20 said:
What I mainly see is +600 for reform and -600 for conservatives.

So it's clearly a trans issue 🙂

'A lie, told often enough, becomes the truth'.

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Don't ever take up science.
 
I'm still sore about not being able to vote because of the perceived political benefit to Labour in redrawing local authority boundaries, but I take some solace from the fact that Keir 'I get it' Starmer has been given a sizeable bloody nose.

I'm not sure Farage would make a good PM, but there's no denying he has his sights set on improving our Country.
 
Rudi Hedman said:
Public transport in London these days, especially on buses, but also on trains, usually involves being in a minority as a white British person while there is usually at least one rude Asian or African bellowing into their phone while having a phone conversation over loudspeaker. The whole public transport experience has changed because of this.
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Believe me. It's not just London. I live on the West Coast of Ireland FFS. It's the same for me! It's presumably everywhere now.
 
ASCPFC said:
Are you living a thousand years ago? Where are the abnormally violent Christians you speak of?
Putting on suicide vests and running into crowds? Hiring cars and mowing people down? Grabbing non-believers to machete them to death? Keeping the women as sex slaves?
What violence is being carried out under a Christian banner currently to warrant your claims?
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Christianity is hardly associated with peace and love these days, more like bombing the c**p out of innocent civilians.

And the USA has been doing it for many years, assisted by the RAF no doubt.

They were in action recently against Yemen 'rebels' a high civilian death count including women and children.

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steeleye20 said:
Christianity is hardly associated with peace and love these days, more like bombing the c**p out of innocent civilians.

And the USA has been doing it for many years, assisted by the RAF no doubt.

They were in action recently against Yemen 'rebels' a high civilian death count including women and children.

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That has nothing to do with Christianity. Arguably are they even Christian countries anymore?
Although I don't agree with the bombings. It has nothing to do with religion. Unless you count power and money as a religion. Which it is to some.
I will say that radical Muslim propagandists (and likely the Imam at 90% of mosques) will paint it as that. My advice - steer clear of that.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
I rather think it’s you missing the point.

It’s to be found in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the 1951 Refugee Convention. The UK, as a signatory to the Refugee Convention, has a legal framework to assess asylum claims, and individuals seeking asylum have certain rights.

53% of claims in 2024 in the UK were refused. Appeals take time. 2647 refused applicants were deported.

Those that are accepted gain the right to stay, claim benefits, work and study and eventually become citizens.

Would you have us withdraw from the Conventions? All members of the UN have signed the Declaration of Human Rights and all but 44 the Refugee Convention, including every developed country. We would be in dubious territory if we withdrew!
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There have been 12000 arrivals on boats already this year. Considering a lot more come by plane, then how does anyone think that is working out?
I doubt that 2000 were deported. They probably had deportation orders but there's probably 10s of thousands of people with those just walking around. Even still living in the hotels quite frankly.
The UN convention can easily be followed as it does not require countries to endlessly take fake refugees and do nothing about it. Real, genuine refugees - I have no problem with. And it's no where near as hard to work out the difference as we make it. Clearly an industry otherwise it wouldn't happen.
 
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