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Re-watching good Cinema & TV

Stirlingsays said:
For me it's like the Vikings show, really good for the first season and then....well, ever decreasing circles of filler.
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The premise unravelled a bit when you found out more, but that is kind of inevitable with fantasy stuff.
I don't think that any conclusion could please everyone or maybe anyone.

Despite some flaws, its still the most entertaining drama ever for me. The first season was the best, but that was a very high standard to maintain, and the writers were probably making a lot of it up from season to season.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
The premise unravelled a bit when you found out more, but that is kind of inevitable with fantasy stuff.
I don't think that any conclusion could please everyone or maybe anyone.

Despite some flaws, its still the most entertaining drama ever for me. The first season was the best, but that was a very high standard to maintain, and the writers were probably making a lot of it up from season to season.
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Totally mate, I think with Lost the writers just hadn't fleshed it out beyond that first season and ended up just writing filler so....while the actors were good, the writing and storylines became decidedly average.

Obviously they would have explored lots of ways of explaining it all but in the end it just seemed overly convoluted. But hey, that was a quality first season, I've never bought it but I'll have to put it on my list now.

Having said all that, it came out during a golden age of TV in the US, largely before woke started and compared to what's served up now we'd all be watching it.

Vikings for me....in that first season....was trying to be more realistic but it seemed star stuck by its success and the longer it went on it the sillier it got......I stopped watching after season three.
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
The Capture (BBC) is the best series i have seen, 3/4 years ago, two series. how true it has become, i think the word "Deepfake" wasn't even heard of then.
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I enjoyed that as well, good stuff and a rather nice leading lady 😇😁
 
Re-wind t.v. has a lot of old programmes.Shine on Harvey Moon,Beiderbecke affair etc etc.It is similar to Talking pictures but skewed towards Programmes rather than films,they show a few films. it is Freeview 95.
 
I’m currently watching old ‘whatever happened to the likely lads’ 50 years old but still very good. Quite amusing how they keep reminiscing for the old days and how times have changed, can’t imagine what they’d think now 50 years later.
The episode where they try to avoid the England score all day is still a classic
 
beak said:
Holly Grainger also stars in Stike bbc one next Monday and Tuesday. Strike is a scruffy shambling detective.
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That’s her, I’ve watched all of strike as well, I didn’t know it was back, thanks
 
Stirlingsays said:
Totally mate, I think with Lost the writers just hadn't fleshed it out beyond that first season and ended up just writing filler so....while the actors were good, the writing and storylines became decidedly average.

Obviously they would have explored lots of ways of explaining it all but in the end it just seemed overly convoluted. But hey, that was a quality first season, I've never bought it but I'll have to put it on my list now.

Having said all that, it came out during a golden age of TV in the US, largely before woke started and compared to what's served up now we'd all be watching it.

Vikings for me....in that first season....was trying to be more realistic but it seemed star stuck by its success and the longer it went on it the sillier it got......I stopped watching after season three.
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When Lost came out I avoided it because I suspected it would not have a proper ending. I have never watched it since and I am told that many fans were disappointed with the last episode.

I loved the Prisoner but hated the final show it was garbage and it was clear that Patrick McGoohan didn't have a clue how to finished it.

Most American TV shows have story arcs and are plotted well in advance by teams of writers. I don't get why they would green light a show where all sorts of mysterious things happen without them asking the obvious question, what happens at the end.
 
Badger11 said:
When Lost came out I avoided it because I suspected it would not have a proper ending. I have never watched it since and I am told that many fans were disappointed with the last episode.

I loved the Prisoner but hated the final show it was garbage and it was clear that Patrick McGoohan didn't have a clue how to finished it.

Most American TV shows have story arcs and are plotted well in advance by teams of writers. I don't get why they would green light a show where all sorts of mysterious things happen without them asking the obvious question, what happens at the end.
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I had a friend from childhood and one of his little obsessions was with the Prisoner TV show. Quite tragically he died in the 2000s and he wanted his ashes thrown on the beach located at the village in Wales where they shot it. A load of us travelled down there for the ceremony....It's quite a unique place to visit.....sad occasion.

Those welsh hills are nuts....It was in winter, frigging dangerous in parts.
 
Badger11 said:
When Lost came out I avoided it because I suspected it would not have a proper ending. I have never watched it since and I am told that many fans were disappointed with the last episode.

I loved the Prisoner but hated the final show it was garbage and it was clear that Patrick McGoohan didn't have a clue how to finished it.

Most American TV shows have story arcs and are plotted well in advance by teams of writers. I don't get why they would green light a show where all sorts of mysterious things happen without them asking the obvious question, what happens at the end.
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Lost does have a proper ending. That in some ways is the problem. The mystery is what people like.
When you reveal too much, it is then that people become disappointed.
Watching it this time round, I was actually more satisfied by the conclusion. You start to understand the thought process behind the writing a little better. It was actually a good job, given that they presumably never knew if and when the show might get cancelled.

Lost is a fantasy, escapism emotional masterpiece. If you don't let cynicism get in the way, it is a bundle of fun.
People love their Sopranos and Breaking Bad, which are also top tier shows, but Lost is not specifically about murky gangsters or drug dealers or other real world nasty stuff, and that is what makes it so watchable.
It's on a tropical island with some cute women. What's not to like?
 
Badger11 said:
When Lost came out I avoided it because I suspected it would not have a proper ending. I have never watched it since and I am told that many fans were disappointed with the last episode.

I loved the Prisoner but hated the final show it was garbage and it was clear that Patrick McGoohan didn't have a clue how to finished it.

Most American TV shows have story arcs and are plotted well in advance by teams of writers. I don't get why they would green light a show where all sorts of mysterious things happen without them asking the obvious question, what happens at the end.
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I thought The Prisoner was 1960s twaddle, especially since I presume it was aimed at adults. Like most British shows, especially back then, the writing was infantile and flimsy. There really were only a few British writers who had really good ideas which made it to the small screen. Nigel Kneale for example.

US shows usually have a team of good writers and that generally makes for better ideas and scripts.
Back in the sixties, Star Trek had a number of very good writers penning various episodes like DC Fontana, Gene **** and even the brilliant Richard Matheson. We got The Avengers. Total tosh.
Even Lost in Space and all that other Irwin Allen stuff was imaginative and fun when you were a kid, albeit laughable and silly.
 
ASCPFC said:
When Bernard Hill died, I watched Boys from the Blackstuff. It had me both laughing and almost crying (a tear in my eye perhaps). Poignant and brilliant. Unless that's just me. Unforgettable - particularly if you lived through those times.
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It's interesting that people seem to relate to that show so much.

I must be completely honest and say that I tried to watch it with my missus a few weeks back for the first time, and we didn't get past the first episode. I've promised myself I will give it another go at some point.

What we did really like was Our Friends In The North. I'd recommend that for a bit of retro telly.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Totally mate, I think with Lost the writers just hadn't fleshed it out beyond that first season and ended up just writing filler so....while the actors were good, the writing and storylines became decidedly average.

Obviously they would have explored lots of ways of explaining it all but in the end it just seemed overly convoluted. But hey, that was a quality first season, I've never bought it but I'll have to put it on my list now.

Having said all that, it came out during a golden age of TV in the US, largely before woke started and compared to what's served up now we'd all be watching it.

Vikings for me....in that first season....was trying to be more realistic but it seemed star stuck by its success and the longer it went on it the sillier it got......I stopped watching after season three.
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Loved Vikings, despite its complete lack of respect for historical reality. Like almost every series, it went downhill a bit as it went on. It definitely lost something when Ragnar departed.
Have you tried The Last Kingdom? That was better than I expected.
 
ASCPFC said:
When Bernard Hill died, I watched Boys from the Blackstuff. It had me both laughing and almost crying (a tear in my eye perhaps). Poignant and brilliant. Unless that's just me. Unforgettable - particularly if you lived through those times.
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In confession box

'I'm desperate father'

'Call me Dan, Can me Dan'

'I'm desperate Dan.'

Realises what he's said (No one after Gen X would) Headbutts confession box.
 
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Hrolf The Ganger said:
Loved Vikings, despite its complete lack of respect for historical reality. Like almost every series, it went downhill a bit as it went on. It definitely lost something when Ragnar departed.
Have you tried The Last Kingdom? That was better than I expected.
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I watched a few episodes of the Last Kingdom and I had the same impression.

It didn't really grab me though and life gets in the way of course. I'll probably pick it back up at some point.
 
ASCPFC said:
When Bernard Hill died, I watched Boys from the Blackstuff. It had me both laughing and almost crying (a tear in my eye perhaps). Poignant and brilliant. Unless that's just me. Unforgettable - particularly if you lived through those times.
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I watched it again earlier this year thinking it won’t have aged well, but it was still brilliant. It was originally around the time I left school in thatchers Britain, so it brought back memories
 
BromleyMonkey said:
I watched it again earlier this year thinking it won’t have aged well, but it was still brilliant. It was originally around the time I left school in thatchers Britain, so it brought back memories
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Alan Bleasdale was....well he's still knocking about....a good writer.

Though I always thought that the Monocled Mutineer was his best work.

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