Parish Out

h'eagle said:
The issue for me isn’t competence as chairman, it’s exposure as an investor. Palace makes up a large part of his overall wealth, which naturally influences his decisions.

I don’t have reliable figures, but purely illustratively, and assuming Parish owns 10% of the club: selling Guehi for £20m could increase the value of Parish's equity in Palace by £2m, and could even avoid him needing to inject £2m himself to fund his share of the club's spending plans. If you accept the often-quoted speculation that his net worth is around £50–60m, with perhaps only £15m of that outside of his Palace stake, then that £2m seems like a significant amount.

Id like to see him reduce his stake but stay on as Chairman. This could unshackle the finances and allow the club to let players like Guehi leave for free if the alternative is to unsettle an already thin squad.
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Can't say that I agree with this.

As an investor, the overall success of the club is more important that any short term gain in selling a player for £20 million. I'm not sure how selling Guehi for £20 million gets Parish £2 million straight up, the transfer fee isn't then divvied out between the share holders, only profit is and whilst that could theoretically add to the clubs profits, it wouldn't correlate like that I don't think.
 
SnapperKain said:
Can't say that I agree with this.

As an investor, the overall success of the club is more important that any short term gain in selling a player for £20 million. I'm not sure how selling Guehi for £20 million gets Parish £2 million straight up, the transfer fee isn't then divvied out between the share holders, only profit is and whilst that could theoretically add to the clubs profits, it wouldn't correlate like that I don't think.
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Realistically, Guehi wants to go. So there's no real stopping him. Apparently, Steve called Guehi and asked him directly. They had a conversation and have done what is best for everyone. What Glasner is not happy about was he wasn't really involved. That is the crux of the Glasner conundrum: he wants total control. That just doesn't really happen in the modern game.
 
waterfordpal said:
Keeping Guehi was backing the manager. ‘ Now tell us who you want in January and we’ll try sign them ‘ was backing the manager. ‘ Oh you’re leaving but you want us to spend €35m on a player who will only sign after he talks to you yep ok ‘ that was backing the manager.
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It would have been a terrible transfer window without European football, with that on top, it was abysmal, the club got it badly wrong, which is why we're now playing games with 2 keepers and 5 kids on the bench.
 
rikz said:
It would have been a terrible transfer window without European football, with that on top, it was abysmal, the club got it badly wrong, which is why we're now playing games with 2 keepers and 5 kids on the bench.
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I have made my views known about our summer 'Transfer' window and it would appear that Glasner and I are 'Birds on the same twig' on this matter.
Some of the players signed last season have made no impact whatsoever.
 
ASCPFC said:
Realistically, Guehi wants to go. So there's no real stopping him. Apparently, Steve called Guehi and asked him directly. They had a conversation and have done what is best for everyone. What Glasner is not happy about was he wasn't really involved. That is the crux of the Glasner conundrum: he wants total control. That just doesn't really happen in the modern game.
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I think you've nailed it, what came over in the interview was Glasner's shock that he hadn't been in on the decision making process.
 
stanzerman said:
Getting £20m for Guehi is a no brainer, its sensible business. There are 16 matches to go, that means if he stayed injury free and played in them all we would be losing £1.25m plus his wages for every match he plays. No player is worth that.
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Well, if he helps us move a few places up the league that would easily halve that figure. Plus we are now much less likely to win the Conference League as the drop off between him and Lerma/Canvot is immense. I doubt we would have won the FA Cup without him
 
eaglesdare said:
I mean....so I'm sure there are rules that a club can't spend more money than it generates? Gate receipts, tv revenue, player sales, sponsorship deals. The premier league have their own rules and then I believe so does UEFA? And we have to toe the line between them both.

That's why there have been recent fines and point deductions for teams.
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the finances of our little Stadium always holds us back. We can only dream of the weekly revenue stream that goes to West Ham/ManUre/....even Newcastle.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
the finances of our little Stadium always holds us back. We can only dream of the weekly revenue stream that goes to West Ham/ManUre/....even Newcastle.
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I know the spurs fans arnt happy these days. But you have to admire all the revenue streams they have made and the new stadium they built along with the brand image.
 
Willo said:
I have made my views known about our summer 'Transfer' window and it would appear that Glasner and I are 'Birds on the same twig' on this matter.
Some of the players signed last season have made no impact whatsoever.
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Look at Uche, randomly signed on the last day with an obligation to buy, apparently the club don't want to activate it, so now stuck with him all season and we can't even start him.
 
rikz said:
Look at Uche, randomly signed on the last day with an obligation to buy, apparently the club don't want to activate it, so now stuck with him all season and we can't even start him.
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The club don’t want to activate it because the manager doesn’t want him and refuses to start him. He could still start a few games and come on as a sub without activating the buy clause. We have a centre forward who can’t score for love or money, has forgotten how to trap a ball, struggles to get off the ground, apparently has a dodgy knee, and wants a massive wage increase or a move to Juventus. The 22 year old “kid on the bench” who scored our goal of the month last month isn’t worth a punt when we’re 2-1 down. That’s on Glasner.
 
Palacesince64 said:
The club don’t want to activate it because the manager doesn’t want him and refuses to start him. He could still start a few games and come on as a sub without activating the buy clause. We have a centre forward who can’t score for love or money, has forgotten how to trap a ball, struggles to get off the ground, apparently has a dodgy knee, and wants a massive wage increase or a move to Juventus. The 22 year old “kid on the bench” who scored our goal of the month last month isn’t worth a punt when we’re 2-1 down. That’s on Glasner.
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Even if it is the case, then it shows Glasner has no say on signings. Maybe work with the manager on players he actually wants.
 
rikz said:
Even if it is the case, then it shows Glasner has no say on signings. Maybe work with the manager on players he actually wants.
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Like Lacroix, Kamada, Sosa you mean? All apparently signed because OG specifically wanted them.

I think the reality is that is not absolute one way or the other. Of course he is consulted on and involved in signings. Sometimes we have signed players he expressly wanted. Other times we will have signed players discussed with him. Other times I am sure we’ve signed players he was indifferent about but we’re discussed with him.

Did we got it all right this summer in the transfer window giving OG everything he wanted? No absolutely not. Do I think the board just cut OG totally out of the process and ignored him? No.
 
waterfordpal said:
How do we know he hasn’t backed the manager. To suggest the players we have signed were not rubber stamped by Glasner is ridiculous. We now know Glasner is a liar who decided back in October he was leaving despite us being top 4. We were only ever a STEPPING STONE for him and his deluded ambition. He got lucky winning the cup ( thankfully) and without that credit in the bank his current record would get any manager sacked. Especially a manger who throws his players under the bus by not using the bench. He knew Guehi was going and he knew we already have Lerma, Riad, Clyde and Canvot plus an academy player who can play centre back but he wanted the club to waste more money. Instead he is trying to deflect criticism onto Parish. His self interest has caught up with him.
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Glasner wasn't lucky.....was he lucky at Eintracht Frankfurt too? He has a passion for Palace and wanting to win - he stated right at the outset that he wanted support to take us to the next level.....where is the money from the NY Jets guys.......we sell to the other clubs who pick off our best players.....if Glasner goes, watch Munoz, Sarr, Kamada, Wharton go !!
 
JHB said:
Like Lacroix, Kamada, Sosa you mean? All apparently signed because OG specifically wanted them.

I think the reality is that is not absolute one way or the other. Of course he is consulted on and involved in signings. Sometimes we have signed players he expressly wanted. Other times we will have signed players discussed with him. Other times I am sure we’ve signed players he was indifferent about but we’re discussed with him.

Did we got it all right this summer in the transfer window giving OG everything he wanted? No absolutely not. Do I think the board just cut OG totally out of the process and ignored him? No.
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I think the reality is, he's been constantly let down by the board. Has he gone about it the right way, definitely not, if I was the owner, id have sacked him but when you look at our transfer strategy, then on top, the Europa debacle, I'd be angry, feel let down and would be questioning the professionalism of those above.
 
Palacesince64 said:
The club don’t want to activate it because the manager doesn’t want him and refuses to start him. He could still start a few games and come on as a sub without activating the buy clause. We have a centre forward who can’t score for love or money, has forgotten how to trap a ball, struggles to get off the ground, apparently has a dodgy knee, and wants a massive wage increase or a move to Juventus. The 22 year old “kid on the bench” who scored our goal of the month last month isn’t worth a punt when we’re 2-1 down. That’s on Glasner.
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Correct - How many chances does Mateta need to score........couldn't hit a barn door from a yard!
 
Willo said:
I have made my views known about our summer 'Transfer' window and it would appear that Glasner and I are 'Birds on the same twig' on this matter.
Some of the players signed last season have made no impact whatsoever.
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Yet many seem to think that’s no hindrance to OGs ability to get results. At this moment in time it’s not just a sub standard bench two or three of those now starting are not better than Championship.
I don’t want Parish out, he has always come through for Palace, but everyone has a bad moment, period, and this situation is his.
 
Olise, Andersen and Eze, how much for them 3 ?about 150 mill, to receive that much for 3 players and have the bench we've had for the last couple of league games just goes to show how bad our transfer strategy has been.
 
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