Palace fans causing disorder

Eddie Moliano said:
So the HF are on video smashing up the town square in Strasbourg and instead of condemning them, you bring up something you saw in a pub almost two months ago? The people you talk about weren't throwing the chairs, were they?
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You only need to read the thread on the BBS for plenty of other eye witness accounts of people who were in Strasbourg and what happened.


Depressing amount of people on here who want to shift the blame onto the HF just because they don’t like them and ignore the fact we have a group of racist agitators looking to cause trouble abroad (with our own fanbase FFS) and dragging our club down.
 
I'm reading from you that you think the HF are innocent in this. Sorry, but they are part of it and most of us are appalled. The fact that the BBS think there's only one group to blame says everything about how radically left wing they are, and no doubt they are busying themselves about the rampant fascism here.
 
DanH said:
You only need to read the thread on the BBS for plenty of other eye witness accounts of people who were in Strasbourg and what happened.


Depressing amount of people on here who want to shift the blame onto the HF just because they don’t like them and ignore the fact we have a group of racist agitators looking to cause trouble abroad (with our own fanbase FFS) and dragging our club down.
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Stop labelling people racists to try and justify violence.
 
Spindle said:
I'm reading from you that you think the HF are innocent in this. Sorry, but they are part of it and most of us are appalled. The fact that the BBS think there's only one group to blame says everything about how radically left wing they are, and no doubt they are busying themselves about the rampant fascism here.
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They’re not innocent but they didn’t instigate anything and don’t go looking for trouble.

The fact it’s on the BBS, that so many of you actual grown men seem to have a weird issue with, is irrelevant. It’s because there are plenty of people who were there and saw/heard what happened and where the blame should be apportioned and where the club needs to look to stop it happening again elsewhere.
 
DanH said:
Pathetic. They literally sang a song calling one one our own players a c**n.
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Report them then. Take a video of it and send it to the club and get them banned from our club.

Racism = Bad
Violence = Bad

Justifying violence over racist comments alleged or not is not acceptable. It really is that simple regardless if the racist comments were actually made or not.
 
eaglesdare said:
Report them then. Take a video of it and send it to the club and get them banned from our club.

Racism = Bad
Violence = Bad

Justifying violence over racist comments alleged or not is not acceptable. It really is that simple regardless if the racist comments were actually made or not.
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Where have I justified any violence?
 
DanH said:
Where have I justified any violence?
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You have literally insulted me and thrown jibes at me for my comments about racism and violence.

Maybe you can clear it up then if you havnt already? And condemn the violence that took place by both sides?
 
eaglesdare said:
You have literally insulted me and thrown jibes at me for my comments about racism and violence.

Maybe you can clear it up then if you havnt already? And condemn the violence that took place by both sides?
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For someone who won’t believe the racist abuse despite multiple eye witnesses you better post some evidence of me justifying violence or apologise for saying I did.
 
DanH said:
For someone who won’t believe the racist abuse despite multiple eye witnesses you better post some evidence of me justifying violence or apologise for saying I did.
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Maybe post some evidence saying that I said you justified violence or apologize for saying I did. 👍
 
DanH said:
You only need to read the thread on the BBS for plenty of other eye witness accounts of people who were in Strasbourg and what happened.


Depressing amount of people on here who want to shift the blame onto the HF just because they don’t like them and ignore the fact we have a group of racist agitators looking to cause trouble abroad (with our own fanbase FFS) and dragging our club down.
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Unfortunately I cant view that forum . I was banned about 5 years ago after a person I was having a discussion with banned me because he couldn't win an argument .

Not directed at DanH but all in general
Maybe football and politics don't mix very well and there are actually plenty of political forums out there for those who want grown up debate and few that are more gloves off . I dont really see why a football forum has a political section but having one is a good reason why this thread should be moved there .
 
DanH said:
They’re not innocent but they didn’t instigate anything and don’t go looking for trouble.

The fact it’s on the BBS, that so many of you actual grown men seem to have a weird issue with, is irrelevant. It’s because there are plenty of people who were there and saw/heard what happened and where the blame should be apportioned and where the club needs to look to stop it happening again elsewhere.
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My brother is on there and treads on eggshells, and he's moderate as hell but they think he's a fascist. It's utterly unbelievable. I was banned from there after a long long witchhunt and trust me I said a fraction of the things I say on here - it's like being in the office at work speaking in front of HR. Bunch of beta soy boys, male feminists, SJWs and radical loons who cannot accept opinions other than their own. It used to be good, it turned to utter s***.
 
Dogburger said:
Unfortunately I cant view that forum . I was banned about 5 years ago after a person I was having a discussion with banned me because he couldn't win an argument .
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^^^^ There you go. Another one. Was it the holier than thou Adlerhorst?
 
DanH said:
They’re not innocent but they didn’t instigate anything and don’t go looking for trouble.

The fact it’s on the BBS, that so many of you actual grown men seem to have a weird issue with, is irrelevant. It’s because there are plenty of people who were there and saw/heard what happened and where the blame should be apportioned and where the club needs to look to stop it happening again elsewhere.
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It doesn't matter if they instigated it or not – they "stood up to racism" by throwing tables at chairs at families. Not a good look.
 
DanH said:
They’re not innocent but they didn’t instigate anything and don’t go looking for trouble.

The fact it’s on the BBS, that so many of you actual grown men seem to have a weird issue with, is irrelevant. It’s because there are plenty of people who were there and saw/heard what happened and where the blame should be apportioned and where the club needs to look to stop it happening again elsewhere.
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Apart from when they’re intimidating and forcing weaker fans and smaller in numbers to them to move seats at away games. So you’re half right, they don’t go looking for trouble when the odds aren’t in their favour, but they don’t mind being bullies when there’s no risk. Yeah, they’re faultless guys.
 
DanH said:
For someone who won’t believe the racist abuse despite multiple eye witnesses you better post some evidence of me justifying violence or apologise for saying I did.
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Im going in on a wim here but I am starting to think u maybe a member of the hf? You will not have a bad word said against them, real fans have finally seen the hf for what they are. I see atleast 5 hf members taken by police from the stands today and the leader sai, nowhere to be seen after his cameo in strasbourg thats all over the Internet. The racist card has not worked this time, if the hf were not at fault then all their members will be fine but with what I see today, I wouldn't be so sure
 
Tileman1979 said:
Im going in on a wim here but I am starting to think u maybe a member of the hf? You will not have a bad word said against them, real fans have finally seen the hf for what they are. I see atleast 5 hf members taken by police from the stands today and the leader sai, nowhere to be seen after his cameo in strasbourg thats all over the Internet. The racist card has not worked this time, if the hf were not at fault then all their members will be fine but with what I see today, I wouldn't be so sure
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Interesting 🤔 said poster doesn't post for months but as soon as this incident happens he is all over it? Defending them? How very interesting indeed 🧐

Or perhaps I just haven't seen his posts as I had him on ignore for so long.
 
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