Palace Fans Against Racism

[Save Dwindlehurst]

The fact that so many members' faustian response to Easternboy's initiative was to jump down his throat with vitriol, mockery, and twist everything and basically hound him out as a mob is really reflective of exactly his point.

You don't get to claim "no politics" whilst making everything political, just in your own preferred political outlook.

If you really believe there is no need for such an organisation here, as many have claimed, what harm exactly is such an organisation going to do to you personally? Just ignore it and let others who want to engage with it.

Because it’s being peddled on Palace Talk. Can’t you get that? It’s invasive, unwelcome and tedious.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

The fact that so many members' faustian response to Easternboy's initiative was to jump down his throat with vitriol, mockery, and twist everything and basically hound him out as a mob is really reflective of exactly his point.

You don't get to claim "no politics" whilst making everything political, just in your own preferred political outlook.

If you really believe there is no need for such an organisation here, as many have claimed, what harm exactly is such an organisation going to do to you personally? Just ignore it and let others who want to engage with it.

Racism is not at the top of most people's priorities in Britain. And why should it be?
I'm guessing that a large chunk of the 10% of the world's population that is White are getting a bit fed up with hearing about racism, especially with all the other stuff going on.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

the 10% of the world's population that is White are getting a bit fed up with hearing about racism

how disgusting is it to walk into a poverty village in, Say, Russia .....and to declare that all the locals are horrible racists ? with zero evidence and nothing but a prejudice against all Russians.

oh sorry, i forgot i was ignoring this thread.

 

[madcap_v2]

I've not been on the site too much of late, but I'll have to go against the grain and admit I'm quite interested in this topic.

Things aren't anywhere as bad as they have been in years gone by and any racist Palace fans really need their head checking, given the rich history of very successful black players at the club, a literal mural of one and us being a Croydon club.

However, some of what I saw and read of in Leipzig IS concerning to fans "of-colour". I'd rather we wouldn't be in the position where we'd need a Palace Fans Against Racism group, but on the same coin, I'd like to go to an away game, among my own fans and not feel uneasy.

 

[Part Time James]

I've not been on the site too much of late, but I'll have to go against the grain and admit I'm quite interested in this topic.

Things aren't anywhere as bad as they have been in years gone by and any racist Palace fans really need their head checking, given the rich history of very successful black players at the club, a literal mural of one and us being a Croydon club.

However, some of what I saw and read of in Leipzig IS concerning to fans "of-colour". I'd rather we wouldn't be in the position where we'd need a Palace Fans Against Racism group, but on the same coin, I'd like to go to an away game, among my own fans and not feel uneasy.

A measured and sensible response if I may say so.

 

[Vaibow]

A measured and sensible response if I may say so.

You may say so...

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

I've not been on the site too much of late, but I'll have to go against the grain and admit I'm quite interested in this topic.

Things aren't anywhere as bad as they have been in years gone by and any racist Palace fans really need their head checking, given the rich history of very successful black players at the club, a literal mural of one and us being a Croydon club.

However, some of what I saw and read of in Leipzig IS concerning to fans "of-colour". I'd rather we wouldn't be in the position where we'd need a Palace Fans Against Racism group, but on the same coin, I'd like to go to an away game, among my own fans and not feel uneasy.

I hope you never have to experience abuse because of your skin.
My observation is that there will always be arseholes who want to abuse people for a variety of convenient reasons.
That said, it seems to me that if there is any genuine prejudice towards black people, it has nothing to do with actual racism. For me, this is where the whole concept of racism and therefore anti racism lacks nuance or sense.

 

[Linford]

Political threads should be in News and Politics.

As for complaining about mobs and hounding.....You too?

This is the same you get on every other site where the political balance is not fifty fifty......Except on lefty sites you get banned when you're perceived as a troll.

Here you get it served back to you......Do you think he should be banned then.....Would that be better?

What on earth are you talking about Stirlingsays?

 

[Linford]

Racism is not at the top of most people's priorities in Britain. And why should it be?
I'm guessing that a large chunk of the 10% of the world's population that is White are getting a bit fed up with hearing about racism, especially with all the other stuff going on.

Then ignore the damn thread, instead of exacerbating the problem with your awful brain-dead drivel.

 

[Linford]

Bo1locks. There is an anti-Irish racism brigade and i do not want some namby-pamby hand wringing Nanny State trying to defend me from it. Censorship is a slippery slope to a Dictatorship.

are you going to now say " oh, no thats not the racism we all had in mind" Two Tier.

Mother of 'Kill All Taigs' facepaint girl will not be prosecuted

Prosecuters were not able to prove who posted the photo on Facebook.

www.thejournal.ie

Don't put words in my mouth. Of course that group needs dealing with.

 

[Linford]

Because it’s being peddled on Palace Talk. Can’t you get that? It’s invasive, unwelcome and tedious.

Then mind your own damn business.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Then ignore the damn thread, instead of exacerbating the problem with your awful brain-dead drivel.

You start a thread like this and you will get varying attitudes.

Prejudice is almost always about dislike of certain behaviour or attitudes. Much like your attitude towards my attitude, my impolite friend.
Within that, it can be about a perceived threat to a way of life or safety from newcomers.

Using the term 'racism' is so reductive and completely unhelpful. It's just simplistic blah blah.

The OP is now peddling this wannabe leftist twaddle on the other site, where I'm sure he can drum up support from the plethora of half wits who frequent it. This time he has added 'anti Fascism' to the title. A dead giveaway.
It's all political. He's just another 'look at me' wannabe with delusions of self importance and moral superiority.

As far as I'm concerned, he can shove his race baiting up his left wing arse.

 

[eastern boy]

You start a thread like this and you will get varying attitudes.

Prejudice is almost always about dislike of certain behaviour or attitudes. Much like your attitude towards my attitude, my impolite friend.
Within that, it can be about a perceived threat to a way of life or safety from newcomers.

Using the term 'racism' is so reductive and completely unhelpful. It's just simplistic blah blah.

The OP is now peddling this wannabe leftist twaddle on the other site, where I'm sure he can drum up support from the plethora of half wits who frequent it. This time he has added 'anti Fascism' to the title. A dead giveaway.
It's all political. He's just another 'look at me' wannabe with delusions of self importance and moral superiority.

As far as I'm concerned, he can shove his race baiting up his left wing arse.

Point 1. The "other" site post was initiated weeks before this one. In fact it was originally posted for advice as to how to go about this, rather than blatant advertising.

Point 2. If individuals are going to go around doing nazi salutes, they are going to be called fascists, by definition.

Point 3. I have never stated my political persuasion, it has always been a source of comment by others. I have stated this before and will state it again-you do not have to be left or right to be against Racism.

As others have said, you don’t need to engage if it's not your bag.

 

[Stirlingsays]

What on earth are you talking about Stirlingsays?

Nothing, it's obvious to me we shouldn't talk.

 

[Save Dwindlehurst]

Then mind your own damn business.

Careful. You’ve already on a yellow card 😬.

 

[cryrst]

Careful. You’ve already on a yellow card 😬.

2 lemons make a strawberry. I mentioned it to the poster a while ago as well !

 

[Eagleman13]

Point 1. The "other" site post was initiated weeks before this one. In fact it was originally posted for advice as to how to go about this, rather than blatant advertising.

Point 2. If individuals are going to go around doing nazi salutes, they are going to be called fascists, by definition.

Point 3. I have never stated my political persuasion, it has always been a source of comment by others. I have stated this before and will state it again-you do not have to be left or right to be against Racism.

As others have said, you don’t need to engage if it's not your bag.

Why didn't you start this in the N&P section? Too hard for you? We tolerate lefties on here, not you tho.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Point 1. The "other" site post was initiated weeks before this one. In fact it was originally posted for advice as to how to go about this, rather than blatant advertising.

Point 2. If individuals are going to go around doing nazi salutes, they are going to be called fascists, by definition.

Point 3. I have never stated my political persuasion, it has always been a source of comment by others. I have stated this before and will state it again-you do not have to be left or right to be against Racism.

As others have said, you don’t need to engage if it's not your bag.

You are trying to introduce your race baiting to the club I support so it’s my business. I have never seen anyone doing a Nazi salute at Selhurst Park and I would suggest that you are stiring up trouble where none exists. Why? Why have you taken it upon yourself to tilt at windmills? Why do you have an axe to grind? You claim it’s not political. Everything is political.

Fascists? You need to get out more.

 

[Attilio1905]

Point 1. The "other" site post was initiated weeks before this one. In fact it was originally posted for advice as to how to go about this, rather than blatant advertising.

Point 2. If individuals are going to go around doing nazi salutes, they are going to be called fascists, by definition.

Point 3. I have never stated my political persuasion, it has always been a source of comment by others. I have stated this before and will state it again-you do not have to be left or right to be against Racism.

As others have said, you don’t need to engage if it's not your bag.

Oh do f*** off you stupid old fart.

Even the BBS thread is being kept on life support by you and a handful of other virtue signalers and leftist cranks that infest that site. A suitable metaphor for racism itself, which would die a death if people like you would let it.

 

[Jimenez]

Oh do f*** off you stupid old fart.

Even the BBS thread is being kept on life support by you and a handful of other virtue signalers and leftist cranks that infest that site. A suitable metaphor for racism itself, which would die a death if people like you would let it.

I tend to adhere to the Morgan Freeman point of view on racism in that racists generally need the oxygen of publicity to thrive, cutting off the oxygen is what is needed. My point being if you're racist no matter what sort of 'Education' your taught a small minority are never going to change their views.