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Mass Deportations to begin.

Wisbech Eagle said:
If true, which I have no information on, then this screams to me for the need for everyone to have to have an identity card. One that is impossible to fake, be full of the latest technology and only available at recognised, government approved centres.

Getting many of those currently living on benefits back into the labour market has long been a bone of contention for me. Most can do something, so they should. I have had tenants quite happy to have their rent paid for them, enough provided for heat, cooking and water and accepting charity for clothes, furniture and food. Then they sit playing video games all day on a huge TV, surrounded by their mates and cans of beer. All, by the way, as British born as me!
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Well ID cards were suggested but the liberals shouted about freedoms etc. pretty ironic now as you can go down for hurty words.
 
cryrst said:
Well ID cards were suggested but the liberals shouted about freedoms etc. pretty ironic now as you can go down for hurty words.
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It’s not the “liberals” screaming about freedoms!

It’s the right.

Sensible, law abiding, people don’t fear such things as identity cards. They may ask for assurances about what use any data is put to but so long as it legitimately keeps the country safe they won’t object.
 
We absolutely should have ID cards. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear!

We should also ensure that we maintain Voter ID at all times in the future, for both Local & General elections.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
If true, which I have no information on, then this screams to me for the need for everyone to have to have an identity card. One that is impossible to fake, be full of the latest technology and only available at recognised, government approved centres.

Getting many of those currently living on benefits back into the labour market has long been a bone of contention for me. Most can do something, so they should. I have had tenants quite happy to have their rent paid for them, enough provided for heat, cooking and water and accepting charity for clothes, furniture and food. Then they sit playing video games all day on a huge TV, surrounded by their mates and cans of beer. All, by the way, as British born as me!
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It's not true the govt likes to claim lots of fraud yet when you look at official stats it is very low % (they also have inflated the figures themselves with over paying or poorly advising people and then coming back later to make out they was the ones doing fraud)

They make the same claims to do with people claiming benefits for sickness as if they are leaches. (pensioners as well now as well)

It's all about misdirecting people away from the real issues which is the govt the very same people who flushed billions. (Remember these people would rather spend billions on contracts with companies to try make out people claiming sickness/disability benefits are all fakes when the courts over turn over 70% of cases so more cost there as well)

People forget who the largest claimants are for benefits pensioners and then working people who get extra bumps.

A lot of people believe the media when it comes to stories as if people on benefits are living it large when they are not. (People should try it they will soon see)

The rates are not fit for purpose.

If only there was jobs this is the problem and people need the skill set as well (labor jobs are mostly self employed so not guarantee work)

What I would like to see is the people who do come into this country and end up going through the system to see if they can stay put into some sort of work rather then just be told they have to stay in hotel etc.
 
You have to be tough to do what Trump is doing with deportation. Real tough. Like Trump.
We've got wet flannel Starmer. Little man with many complexes.
Makes a wet flannel appear like a sheet of steel alongside him.
 
grumpymort said:
It's not true the govt likes to claim lots of fraud yet when you look at official stats it is very low % (they also have inflated the figures themselves with over paying or poorly advising people and then coming back later to make out they was the ones doing fraud)

They make the same claims to do with people claiming benefits for sickness as if they are leaches. (pensioners as well now as well)

It's all about misdirecting people away from the real issues which is the govt the very same people who flushed billions. (Remember these people would rather spend billions on contracts with companies to try make out people claiming sickness/disability benefits are all fakes when the courts over turn over 70% of cases so more cost there as well)

People forget who the largest claimants are for benefits pensioners and then working people who get extra bumps.

A lot of people believe the media when it comes to stories as if people on benefits are living it large when they are not. (People should try it they will soon see)

The rates are not fit for purpose.

If only there was jobs this is the problem and people need the skill set as well (labor jobs are mostly self employed so not guarantee work)

What I would like to see is the people who do come into this country and end up going through the system to see if they can stay put into some sort of work rather then just be told they have to stay in hotel etc.
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So the asylum issue goes out of the window, arrive and you can work and stay. Can't agree with this.

We cannot afford to add net takers to the economy. Unskilled economic migrants will be net takers, that's the reality.
 
HKOwen said:
So the asylum issue goes out of the window, arrive and you can work and stay. Can't agree with this.

We cannot afford to add net takers to the economy. Unskilled economic migrants will be net takers, that's the reality.
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Who said stay permanent no one.

So you would rather people come in and for 6-12 months just sitting in hotel rooms etc because that is what happens while they are being processed.

These people could contribute.

If they are declined its no lose current system is all out goings no in.

How do you know they are unskilled you are just stereotyping you cant judge all by one person situation such an uneducated view point the sort of garbage the media pushes.
 
grumpymort said:
Who said stay permanent no one.

So you would rather people come in and for 6-12 months just sitting in hotel rooms etc because that is what happens while they are being processed.

These people could contribute.

If they are declined its no lose current system is all out goings no in.

How do you know they are unskilled you are just stereotyping you cant judge all by one person situation such an uneducated view point the sort of garbage the media pushes.
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I think if they were skilled they would stay where they are from and work!
It’s mainly about money and skilled workers can earn in whatever country they live.
 
grumpymort said:
It's not true the govt likes to claim lots of fraud yet when you look at official stats it is very low % (they also have inflated the figures themselves with over paying or poorly advising people and then coming back later to make out they was the ones doing fraud)

They make the same claims to do with people claiming benefits for sickness as if they are leaches. (pensioners as well now as well)

It's all about misdirecting people away from the real issues which is the govt the very same people who flushed billions. (Remember these people would rather spend billions on contracts with companies to try make out people claiming sickness/disability benefits are all fakes when the courts over turn over 70% of cases so more cost there as well)

People forget who the largest claimants are for benefits pensioners and then working people who get extra bumps.

A lot of people believe the media when it comes to stories as if people on benefits are living it large when they are not. (People should try it they will soon see)

The rates are not fit for purpose.

If only there was jobs this is the problem and people need the skill set as well (labor jobs are mostly self employed so not guarantee work)

What I would like to see is the people who do come into this country and end up going through the system to see if they can stay put into some sort of work rather then just be told they have to stay in hotel etc.
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www.hulldailymail.co.uk

DWP won't prosecute some fraudsters due to backlog

The Department for Work and Pensions will not look at prosecuting "individualised frauds"
www.hulldailymail.co.uk www.hulldailymail.co.uk

I saw this in the nationals a few days ago but a quick google brought this page up.

Here we go 9bn fraud how many nurses would that pay for.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Benefit fraud rockets to £9 billion a year as civil servants WFH

Critics last night urged welfare chiefs to halt remote working for civil servants amid fears it is wide open to abuse by fraudsters, as fraud rockets to almost £9 billion a year.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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