chris123
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Phil’s Barber
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😂 Thank you. I’ve left my original post uncorrected as it would spoil the effect!
Does anybody notice the weekly Loan Report on the CP App/Website. It's written as if all the loanees are world-beaters making significant contributions to their respective loan clubs, when in reality, as has been pointed out regularly, most of the time they are benched or don't make the match-day squad. Ozoh being the only exception if not injured. I think the acadamy is a moot point. I get the theory but so far, still quite early days, we are a long way from the Citee/Chelsea model i.e. 1) send player on loan 2) rinse & repeat 3) bring player back and include him for a few match-days 4) sell said player for ridiculous money with no evidence of value-for-money 5) said player sits on bench of mugged purchasor.
Palacesince64
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I hope we never achieve the Citeh/Chelski model! The Academy should be feeding players into our first team squad so that we are less reliant on finding gems from the Championship. Those who don’t make it will hopefully generate some income by sales to lower league teams to cover our costs.
We will only attract and keep young talent if they see a route to first team football. Jesse Derry is an example of one we lost reportedly because he wasn’t getting a chance with the first team squad. Our current manager has shown some enthusiasm for allowing youngsters to train with the first team and putting them on the bench but then spoils that by a) not playing them, and b) making inappropriate comments about them to the press.
Whoever our next manager is, he needs to understand the importance of the academy to the team and be prepared to develop young players.
I wasn't meaning to say that I support their model, more that it infuriates me that so many clubs are so gullible to pay so much for young players just because they are Citee/Chelsea graduates. That said, none of current crop of loanees is tearing up the grass at their respective clubs so presumably they are not that good anyway, despite what is written in the Loanee Report.
CrazyBadger
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Agree with most, but surely the route to the 1st team is
1) academy,
2) Championship Club loan as early as possible
3) Recall to Palace 1 team if they cut it in the champ.
Some(most) will fall by the wayside and get sold off, but those that cut it, we don't have to buy off the Champ clubs!
And some may just be good enough to blood straight into the first team, but that probably shouldn't be the norm in an PL team, as there's too much at stake and it's more likely that they'll get burnt.
Yep, now we have a semi decent squad this is the route.
And they have to be preforming really well in the Championship.
The next one we might see however is Ozoh, if we lose Lerma I can see him playing a role as a bit of a utility player in the squad.
dreamwaverider
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Can anyone identify any premier player (who plays regularly in the premier) who began their career being loaned out on a regular basis before stepping into the first team.
What I am getting at is that from what i can see, most players who drop down to lower leagues to 'gain experience' rarely return and step up to make it as premier players.
What I am getting at is that from what i can see, most players who drop down to lower leagues to 'gain experience' rarely return and step up to make it as premier players.
chris123
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There are examples of Premier Legaue players who got loaned out. Chalobah and Connor Gallagher spring to mind. However, they were loaned to premier league clubs (including us). What I can’t think of is an example of somebody who was loaned to a club in the Championship or lower.
Willo
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He was also loaned to WBA, signed by Slaven Bilic.
Sam Johnstone was at WBA at the time.
As mentioned before, Morgan Rogers was sent out to Lincoln City of League 1, before coming back and then developing into a fine player at Villa. Brennan Johnson was at Forest, I think, when he also went to Lincoln City, where he won several penalties, before going back into the Premier League at Spurs and us.
Dean Henderson was loaned out a couple of times, including Shrewsbury where he lost in the Checkatrade Cup Final, to Lincoln. Players do sometimes take the route of loans, before finding their place in top divisions. Brook Norton-Cuffy who plays in Seria A for Genoa, and fated for a bright future, also spent time at Lincoln City. Lincoln City are my local team, so that's why I know this stuff. Most loanees from higher clubs disappear into lower leagues and non-league, but some make it.
Willo
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Morgan Rogers, Brennan Johnson and Brook Norton-Cuffy were all signed on 'Loan' at Lincoln by Michael Appleton.
Dean Henderson was loaned out to 5 clubs.
dreamwaverider
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Thanks for all such good replies. It does show, however, that there are only a handful who go to lower leagues and then come back and hit the top. Ironically, both Kane and our own Guehi, have done this and gone all the way to the very top.
There are huge amounts of funding that go into academies. Im just not convinced they are delivering anymore than before their existence, and as we saw with Derry, there is little or no protection for the clubs should any of the boys want to move, up to a certain age i think.
Morgan has also done very well, but Guehi must be a stand out in his journey to the pinnacle of the sport.
There are huge amounts of funding that go into academies. Im just not convinced they are delivering anymore than before their existence, and as we saw with Derry, there is little or no protection for the clubs should any of the boys want to move, up to a certain age i think.
Morgan has also done very well, but Guehi must be a stand out in his journey to the pinnacle of the sport.
Willo
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I am informed that Jack Moylan could have a bright future.
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