Labour Party politics

[georgenorman]

What I think is most significant has not got anything to do with whether numbers have gone down by 40%. What I think doesn’t alter that fact. I have told you, it’s simple, Google it, it’s all there ,and you can see what you think is most significant.

Why so coy? I would have thought you would be only too pleased to trumpet the miraculous policies of our glorious leader? In any case, I thought you socialists regarded immigration as the best thing that ever happened to this country?

 

[Putitout]

OK, but the number coming into the EU as a whole has also dropped by the same 40% unless Labour are claiming credit for that too.

Yes but there are not 40% less numbers waiting for a chance to cross those numbers are not thought to be to much down yet. If the trend continues we have to hope numbers will automatically fall. Every one here wins, Im all for it.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Yes but there are not 40% less numbers waiting for a chance to cross those numbers are not thought to be to much down yet. If the trend continues we have to hope numbers will automatically fall. Every one here wins, Im all for it.

Absolutely but the total is now the same as it was in 2022 and 2024. Maybe they work on a two year recruitment rota.

 

[Putitout]

Why so coy? I would have thought you would be only too pleased to trumpet the miraculous policies of our glorious leader?

No need for me to trumpet Labour policy. I’m not a Labour.or any other party man.
I will trumpet that illegal immigration is down 40%, on their watch. If the Tories were the government I would say the same because it’s happening . You say Labour have done F-all on this. The facts say you are wrong.

 

[Putitout]

Absolutely but the total is now the same as it was in 2022 and 2024. Maybe they work on a two year recruitment rota.

Only time will tell if they can continue to lower the numbers coming. It needs to happen , as does the removal of many of those already through the door.

 

[Matov]

No need for me to trumpet Labour policy. I’m not a Labour.or any other party man.
I will trumpet that illegal immigration is down 40%, on their watch. If the Tories were the government I would say the same because it’s happening . You say Labour have done F-all on this. The facts say you are wrong.

Its a valid point. This is what staggers me about people who still vote Tory. Sure, Tony Blair was everything people say he was, and more, but the damage we are seeing to the country in the here and now, that was down to the Tories. And to Johnson in particular.

Now I don't think it would have been any different under Labour, but the point remains. The Tories are for my money, far worse as they lied and lied to their supporters about this issue.

A curse on both their houses and whilst the figures might be down, until they are totally reversed so that MILLIONS are sent back, then this mess is not ending.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

I'm no Burnham fan, but as PM he clearly has more access to intelligence briefings than you or I.
As the Head of M15 clarified yesterday Russia did interfere in the Brexit referendum but it was low level and had no significant impact.

Why is that so difficult to accept?

Not true. He is saying that if Russia tried to influence the election then it means that they must have also tried to influence the referendum. That is not evidence. It is supposition. He also conveniently forgets that every one and their uncle, including the POTUS. Hillary Clinton and reps from the EU tried to influence the vote in favour of Remain.
Only stupid people would fall for this crap.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

No need for me to trumpet Labour policy. I’m not a Labour.or any other party man.
I will trumpet that illegal immigration is down 40%, on their watch. If the Tories were the government I would say the same because it’s happening . You say Labour have done F-all on this. The facts say you are wrong.

How much longer can they claim that? And reduced numbers are not the important factor. We have thousands here already that should never have been allowed to enter Britain and should be deported immediately.
The excuses are endless and none of these self serving cowards have the courage to do what needs to be done.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Not true. He is saying that if Russia tried to influence the election then it means that they must have also tried to influence the referendum. That is not evidence. It is supposition. He also conveniently forgets that every one and their uncle, including the POTUS. Hillary Clinton and reps from the EU tried to influence the vote in favour of Remain.
Only stupid people would fall for this crap.

Only stupid people cannot tell the difference between politicians and public figures openly stating their opinions about the merits, or otherwise, of EU membership and the covert activities of bad faith actors planting misinformation on social media. Which Russia did. This was known by the government at the time of the vote but they decided to ignore it.