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Starmer to promise bolder action as leadership threats mount

The embattled PM will seek to persuade his MPs not to ditch him as Labour leader in a speech on Monday.
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These f***ing idiots just don’t get it.
Not a word about immigration or Islamic threats. Growth, economy blah blah.
Important yes but atm it isn’t top of a lot of people’s priorities if we are slowly becoming a third world s*** hole.
Towns are being over run and turned into dustbins.
 
cryrst said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Starmer to promise bolder action as leadership threats mount

The embattled PM will seek to persuade his MPs not to ditch him as Labour leader in a speech on Monday.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

These f***ing idiots just don’t get it.
Not a word about immigration or Islamic threats. Growth, economy blah blah.
Important yes but atm it isn’t top of a lot of people’s priorities if we are slowly becoming a third world s*** hole.
Towns are being over run and turned into dustbins.
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Yup. These divs just won't address the elephant in the room because of the fear of their own internal radical lefty and Muslim MPs, despite what the rest of the country wants.

Who cares anyway, on this track, which they won't change, people are going to go for Reform. All of those who are nuts enough to vote green already did in the proxy low turnout council elections, they'll gain frig all in a general election. That's when the quiet majority who are suffering and are livid will turn out.
 
Spindle said:
Yup. These divs just won't address the elephant in the room because of the fear of their own internal radical lefty and Muslim MPs, despite what the rest of the country wants.

Who cares anyway, on this track, which they won't change, people are going to go for Reform. All of those who are nuts enough to vote green already did in the proxy low turnout council elections, they'll gain frig all in a general election. That's when the quiet majority who are suffering and are livid will turn out.
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What's funny is they'll take on the Greens in an open borders love in. They'll lurch that way. Becoming even more unvotable to anyone but a fool. I was lifelong labour but not since Blair. Labour lost their way when they became involved in the culture stuff. Woke if you like. If they'd stuck to protecting workers they'd be fine. Instead workers in theoretically socialist countries feel under attack. They feel taxed to top up the feckless whilst society constantly gets worse. Yet they are far too f***ing stupid to see that. It's what probably 90% of European workers think.
 
ASCPFC said:
What's funny is they'll take on the Greens in an open borders love in. They'll lurch that way. Becoming even more unvotable to anyone but a fool. I was lifelong labour but not since Blair. Labour lost their way when they became involved in the culture stuff. Woke if you like. If they'd stuck to protecting workers they'd be fine. Instead workers in theoretically socialist countries feel under attack. They feel taxed to top up the feckless whilst society constantly gets worse. Yet they are far too f***ing stupid to see that. It's what probably 90% of European workers think.
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I don't see why Labour would now lurch left - they've done nothing but pull to the right/centre since Corbyn, despite the 2x Corbyn GEs showing the strength of the appetite for a proper left-wing Labour party, as well as the recent Green success.

The sooner they realise that they are never going to be accepted by the traditional Tory/Reform vote, the better - they might actually then do what they should and offer a genuine left-wing alternative, rather than more centrist, worst-of-both-worlds slop.

A shambles of a party who deserve everything they get.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
I don't see why Labour would now lurch left - they've done nothing but pull to the right/centre since Corbyn, despite the 2x Corbyn GEs showing the strength of the appetite for a proper left-wing Labour party, as well as the recent Green success.

The sooner they realise that they are never going to be accepted by the traditional Tory/Reform vote, the better - they might actually then do what they should and offer a genuine left-wing alternative, rather than more centrist, worst-of-both-worlds slop.

A shambles of a party who deserve everything they get.
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Agreed. I liked Corbyn; not for his policies but because he seemed to be advocating what the Labour Party was originally set up for. He never got my vote but I admired him for sticking to his beliefs. Blair, and everybody since, is just there to be in power. As Groucho Marx once said: These are my principles, if you don’t like them I have others…
 
Three more years of this parliament,allowing for the mid term anti government voting ( always happened) a probable coalition with the Green Party.
 
Common Sense Club said:
Agreed. I liked Corbyn; not for his policies but because he seemed to be advocating what the Labour Party was originally set up for. He never got my vote but I admired him for sticking to his beliefs. Blair, and everybody since, is just there to be in power. As Groucho Marx once said: These are my principles, if you don’t like them I have others…
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I know what you mean.

I am not going to stick it to them for their policies. There are unquestionably ones that have economically hurt, like business taxes, and ones that have politically hurt, like winter fuel. But they genuinely did inherit a sh1t heap from the last regime; and their attempt to make things better are - without any doubt - as good as or even better than (I know!) the national collapse any of the alternatives would have likely served up.

The issue is who are they connecting with?

Labour used to be the working man. Now I have no idea who they are for.

The only clear connection they appear to have are identitarian middle class Londoners. How is that going to appeal to voters in Hartlepool or Weston Super Mare?

This could be a consequence of their attempt to morph from the working man to the service industry person to try and ape working trends. However, while it worked with Blair - although he was blessed with benign economic foundations - it is a transition that is clearly failing under these troubled times.

I cant recall a moment when a British government was more detached from its people.
 
silvertop said:
I know what you mean.

I am not going to stick it to them for their policies. There are unquestionably ones that have economically hurt, like business taxes, and ones that have politically hurt, like winter fuel. But they genuinely did inherit a sh1t heap from the last regime; and their attempt to make things better are - without any doubt - as good as or even better than (I know!) the national collapse any of the alternatives would have likely served up.

The issue is who are they connecting with?

Labour used to be the working man. Now I have no idea who they are for.

The only clear connection they appear to have are identitarian middle class Londoners. How is that going to appeal to voters in Hartlepool or Weston Super Mare?

This could be a consequence of their attempt to morph from the working man to the service industry person to try and ape working trends. However, while it worked with Blair - although he was blessed with benign economic foundations - it is a transition that is clearly failing under these troubled times.

I cant recall a moment when a British government was more detached from its people.
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Is it not also the case that most, whether left or right, are broadly central. Perhaps more so than ever.
 
chris123 said:
Those on welfare seem to be the only ones who benefit?
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A full review of council and social housing renters would help. It's not so much the welfare money. It's the next to nothing housing, child benefit again now, and still working or doing crime that people have had enough of. I guarantee the councils don't have a clue who actually lives in their housing. And it will be of no surprise to find the system has been completely corrupted.
 
Starmer is a dead man walking.
The Labour Party cannot recover this time.
The above means that the Country is royally f****d and that is a disaster!
This lot have wrecked the place and we would have been better off keeping Rishi in power to be honest.
 
I meant to say - Starmer had an opportunity today to blame lack of welfare cuts on the MP's and set out a bold plan for the future etc.
Instead he came up with yet another word salad!
I can' work out whether -
Is the plan to just wreck the UK in whichever way possible?
Or
Is Two Tier genuinely dumb and cannot see what the majority think?
Or
Are they doing it all on purpose so that he goes?
We are in a bad place and I don't care who takes the reins - bar Greens and Labour - but I do want the UK to be a better place and it just isn't.
Bulls need to be grabbed by horns and much pain needs to be inflicted to allow us to come out of the other side.
Will anyone do it doubtful.
 
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